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Unread Tue, 17th-Jan-2012, 3:10 PM BnetId: [TCP]KiaSu.234  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 413 # 21
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hey I was in bronze too... no worries. just play and ALWAYS try ur best to win silvers and gold players. and for the bronze players situation think of it like ur just having fun! mess with them and build nexus all over the map and use pylons to spell ur name and kill ur own army and make a new one full of dts and stuff..... or u can also try new strats against the bronze players to test them out. just keep on demolishing and practicing until u get a 100% winrate against golds and silvers then u will be more then ready for plat once u get promoted and ur mmr is back to normal
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 12:20 AM BnetId: Bjornbrandr.447  Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 312 # 22
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Starcraft is a very complex and challenging game.
I spent a lot longer in bronze league than I did in any other leagues - persistence is the key to getting yourself out of bronze.
If you ensure that you watch people play starcraft and do a little learning you will rapidly improve due to a greater understanding of the game. As you progress, you will begin to play by reacting to your opponent in a manner that puts you ahead.
Whilst my game knowledge (plat/diamond level) is a lot higher than a bronze player, the learning does not stop, not even at grandmaster level. Players of a calibre as high as Nestea and MMA are still learning to play more efficiently.
In essence, the moral of the story is that you have to open your mind and think about your play. Don't let yourself get angry after a loss - learn to understand how you lost and deposit that information in your memory; it will help you later.
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 5:42 AM Total Posts Made: 6 # 23
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Just keep playing, the ladder system is pretty wierd, especially in the lower leagues
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 6:04 AM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 24
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you've played enough games this season for your MMR to be stable (more ladder wins than me), if you're still in bronze it's because that's the level you play at.
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 7:26 AM BnetId: Rage  Race: Clan: wT  Total Posts Made: 116 # 25
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you've played enough games this season for your MMR to be stable (more ladder wins than me), if you're still in bronze it's because that's the level you play at.
This is unfortunately true.

There is no such thing as a "bronze curse", just like there's no such thing as a "diamond curse". The Blizzard matchmaking system is extremely good at identifying your level of play, especially after a lot of games.
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 8:55 AM BnetId: ToRDeathsFng.788  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 764 # 26
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sounds tasty deathsfang - you are a fine cheese connosseuir !!
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 9:35 AM BnetId: ToREchoFive.923  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 408 # 27
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its good to hide bases in bronze/silver. no one ever scouts them and u always have lots of extra mins anyway
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Unread Wed, 18th-Jan-2012, 4:02 PM BnetId: SCWarrior.110  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 10 # 28
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i have read everyones opinion in this thread and i just had a coaching session in the last 24hrs.

since then ive been laddering and now im feeling like im crushing people at will and i can almost toy with them little now, lol. payback is a bitch, aint it! for any of u cheezers out there that are reading this, muhahahaha

Anyhow jokes aside, it turns out the biggest problem i had was confindence and didnt really have a future game plan.
i would do my 1st expand around the 12min mark with struggling efforts. after my coaching session from last night im like expanding now to 3 bases searching for a 4th by the 12min mark.
not only am i expanding now more rapidly and better, but also im doing it off 1 gateway when i expand the first time, which really put me out of my comfort zone i may add. there were a few other things as well but these were the main points i looked at.

also i used to panic a lot and shake with adrenline whilst playing, now im cool calm and collective, more so importantly i feel like im in control of games now. im not so frantic anymore! YAY!

i want to put a big shoutout to everyone in here and say "THANK YOU!"
i feel now that im actually playing now, not stressing all the time after a game win/loose.

just a side note, and not putting anyone down or pointing any fingers, but in this thread people have mentioned, dont worry just keep practicing, you will get better. i feel i think maybe if you seek for advice like i did in this forum, i dont think the problem isnt practicing its more so not knowing what to practice. this was another big issue i had.

there was a saying i heard from a very wise person,
"Practice doesnt make perfect, but perfect practice makes perfect!"
which is why mostly i wanted coaching at start, because i thought atleast if i was going to practice something at least i would know what to practice the first time round. practicing build orders are good, but why sit here and waste time practicing a build order if you dont know the purpose of the build order and why you are doing it? because the reason why i say that is i had good build orders just was doing wrong builds for wrong scenarios.

and what a better way to practice by asking people from here, aye?
everyone so far in here have been so kind and cool.

Thanks everyone and i hope i see some of you around someday!

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Unread Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 1:50 PM BnetId: Toastyzeus.856 (SEA)  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 41 # 29
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I had this "problem" also. I was in bronze for SO long. In the end it really does come down to playing skill. Wether you feel you should be out of bronze or not. I thought I should have been out long before I got out but trust me when I say that Bronze-Silver is probably one the the biggest step-ups any new player will make.

I have a post around here somewhere complaining that I was forever bronze... It was true at the time I posted it but now i'm just plat.

Once your good enough, you will get out of bronze and it will be a grand moment.

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Unread Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 2:57 PM BnetId: Criven 751  Race: Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 93 # 30
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I think everyone in Bronze has the same feeling, I think its why people turn to "Cheese" in the first place.

Best thing I did was introduce myself to my local community (Consider Facebook cause it is HANDY) and started sharing my goals and experiences, as if it was as nature intended I had guys putting their hand up to pitch in on my play-style and give me a few hints and tips. I even had someone sit on a whole bunch of 1v1 games and verbally coach me via skype!

I may still be in bronze league today but my games are more calm and collected, I have a focus and when I peek at the game timer I have a clear picture of where I should be and what should be getting done.

Get Day9 into your eye sockets. Get into the Sydney side SC2 community (From what I hear its the biggest in AUS) and just keep at it.

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Unread Sat, 21st-Jan-2012, 12:28 PM Race: Clan: pRodigy  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 231 # 31
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The best thing you can do whilst in bronze is to download a replay of a decent level player and try to replicate their build over and over again on the ladder. After each game go over your own replay and see what you could have improved. I think in bronze grinding out ladder games is stupid. However, grinding out ladder games and improving from them will quickly get you a promotion as you will learn to scout and defend 'stupid cheeses' and learn to improve your decision making. Also following the build order as closely is possible is very important so you can learn to memorie timings and macro properly.
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