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Unread Sun, 8th-Jan-2012, 12:51 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 16
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Originally Posted by PeleusSPR View Post
Equality for everyone, but I agree with posting rules in the open to avoid issues.
I want to stress that Equality is extremely important. Just because you are a "Top Player" or you come from a big clan does not mean you should get special treatment after breaking the rules, or the rules should apply different to you. Zannoku was banned from the site AND all our sc2sea tournaments for his forum etiquette and behaviour towards mods, and the tournament bans was something TA supported as well. Why do I bring Zan up? Believe it or not, deth is the 2nd highest banned user on sc2sea with at least 4 different accounts being banned (TAdeth, hted, nazivana, TAPelican) with some of these accounts receiving more than 1 ban and his actions after receiving the ban have been very similar to Zans, for instance immediately making another account to circumvent the ban. I don't want to go more into this as this thread should only be about rule discussion so look at cure's post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...&currentpage=4 if you want direct quotes and you can continue discussion there.

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If you're going to borrow from TL, then borrow their policy of not deleting posts. People don't learn if they can't see what happens when you don't follow the rules.
I definitely agree with this and I have NOT being randomly deleteing posts i disagree with like what is being portrayed. Look at del's post about my wife, look at pinders post against baka, they are all still up there for all to see. The only times i delete stuff is when theres obvious derailment which will harm the thread for example halfway into the Tgun/glade thread 5-6 pple spamming "Wheres Roz?" one after the other and it took up one whole page and was obviously derailing the thread. deths baselss accusation in his rep comment if not deleted would have me had to make a lengthly response in the thread (Which i have since made on tL) which would have derailed the glade/tgun discussion and i wanted to avoid that. I also deleted stuff that in my opion were detrimental to the forum and overboard like mancannon sexually harassing kelly as well as the racial slurs by zan, as well as multiple memes attacking benji made in multiple threads whereever benji posted.

Also want to add some have been using the comments feature when "downreping" to circumvent this. aka making infraction worthy comments in the downrep". For e.g i have deleted down repped comments made against a certain member that went like "How can you manage your own team you can't even manage your own weight" which was a personal attack worthy of infraction that came out of nowhere that would make things worse between the two groups. those are the types of comments i have deleted, ones that clearly crossed the line as they cant be infracted. Which perhaps i should not have in hindsight so people learn whats acceptable and whats not, i just felt it was so wrong and no one should have ever had the misfortune of seeing that.




I also want to apologies for deleting Dox's and rossi's posts and have restored them.

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3233

I deleted rossis post because it was very misinformed and if i had to refute all the points it was gonna have the thread blow up (like what you see on TL now) with very long walls of texts from both sides but since everything is now out in the open people can go read the TL thread and decide for themselves and there is no point leaving it deleted. You also have to remember there has been ALOT of drama over the last month, from the 1. SEAL format discussion, 2. the GLade tgun team, 3. the map hacking incident and 4. the SEACL player eligibilty. Those are HUGE threads and I have had to read every post in these threads to keep an eye on what was going on to make an educated administrative decision, and it was taking up massive amounts of time and I definitely did not what the "message from deth" thread to turn into another thread like that, we are already very stretched for time with SEACL just one week away and with alot of work still to be done.

As for Dox i still have and will always have an amazing amount of respect for him. I did not want people to see two very important people of sc2sea having a big public disagreement, and i did not want to tear apart the community by having people to take sides, especially when the league was so close to launching. I immediately messaged him in skype after his post so that we could talk about it privately where I explained my rationale behind my actions and likewise he explained his.

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 nGenLight:  
Don't need to know your reasoning, just stop doing it mate.
 TAEdarus:  
Thank you for restoring those posts, this is going a long way to helping =)
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