[aLtShortizz]

Originally Posted by Revenant

Think of it this way. He hacked on the first game against timber. And then he switched off his hack and proceeded to continue laddering. Doesn't it sound fishy on why the person would turn off his hack when he had no reason to?

I dont understand your point lol.

All i meant to say was that the part whr ur quoting him is him explaining that its his first time using the hack today.

[FaDeEvetS]

Originally Posted by Revenant

Think of it this way. He hacked on the first game against timber. And then he switched off his hack and proceeded to continue laddering. Doesn't it sound fishy on why the person would turn off his hack when he had no reason to?

i 'turned it off' cause i didn't want to continue using it, i wasn't planning on making this a permanent thing..
the next ladder game after that initial timber game i began streaming

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by FaDeEvetS

i 'turned it off' cause i didn't want to continue using it, i wasn't planning on making this a permanent thing..
the next ladder game after that initial timber game i began streaming

If this was the honest truth, then it's okay for me to understand that all the other accusations were definitely false.

Originally Posted by aLtShortizz

I dont understand your point lol.

All i meant to say was that the part whr ur quoting him is him explaining that its his first time using the hack today.

Point quite obviously being that what he said in his post may not be ENTIRELY true(about him only using the hack for one game). Is that so hard to get? God. Maybe I'm conveying it wrongly then.

[TargA]

why are people being nice to this guy?

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	Imperial:	double standards are fun
	Volition:	We have all been in the spot. give him the benefit of the doubt and move on. but yeah give you rep!

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by TargA

why are people being nice to this guy?

It takes guts to own up after committing atrocity yo.

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nirvAnA:

[TargA]

Originally Posted by Revenant

It takes guts to own up after committing atrocity yo.

it also takes retardation to hack and then deny it

[inFeZa]

edit: seems like I'm wrong D:
browsing on my phone... sorry X.X

[FaDeEvetS]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.inFeZa

I highly doubt fadeevets is a hacker.. Why would you apply for a sponsored team if you hacked....
imo its just good game sense, I mean what Terran isn't a cheesy bitch with early bunkers?

I did hack a ladder game earlier today. there's explanation/apology posts earlier in the thread

[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.inFeZa

I highly doubt fadeevets is a hacker.. Why would you apply for a sponsored team if you hacked....
imo its just good game sense, I mean what Terran isn't a cheesy bitch with early bunkers?

read the thread properly mate, he admitted it.

I too don't understand why people are being nice when he initially first tried to deny it... there should be consequences

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	TAriiChard:
	x5.Revenant:
	ROOT`iaguz:	Agreed with you and TargA. Hacking is vile, and he has to pay for that somehow.
	Bash:
	Zealo:	banned from tournaments?
	QEDJenkins:
	Fadey:
	deL:	Site ban imo (tourney inclusive)
	TAScarecrow:
	Imperial:
	Volition:	What do you want? his account deleted? it is a storm in a teacup
	Synizta:

[Nobunaga]

Well, I gotta say that this has been an entertaining day.

[inFeZa]

Ok I read his explanation... At least he isn't a full time hacker just to get to the top.. Oh well =/

[Welshy]

Well I can understand where evets is coming from, he had a very crud day and decided to screw around with hacks. As a fellow gamer this is unacceptable, but as another person who has been through some rough patches I can understand that he might not have been thinking properly during the time. A few years ago I was getting shit hanged on me by the *popular kids*, and I was like "lol whatever", I just let it roll off my back, I woke up feeling like crap one day and they pushed me and I cracked, I beat the living crap out of all of them, I wasnt htinking properly and what I did was wrong, my point being when you have baddays, when youre in a bad mindset it is hard and most of the time you dont even think about the bigger picture you just do. You can't excuse the hacking but I don't think its something so big as people to say 'ruining esports' or 'he should be punished' because at he end of the day it was one game where he was not thinking properly, he hacked a game, he then realised after that what he did was worng and stopped, he even admitted that he hacked.
This is just my opinion and me trying to look over the events as a gamer and as a person with human emotions the same as everyone else.
Sorry if this was a waste of time for some people to read.
glhf

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	asdfSchnitzel:	What the man says is true!
	nirvAnA:

[Peleus]

Seriously I really think FadeEvets should be ostracised from this community, kicked out of fade and never allowed to enter another tourny by sc2sea again.

If you're allowed to cheat, hack and then simply say "LOL sorry guys you caught me it was a one off I promise" then what type of message does it send for others that might be considering trying out hacks in the SEA community? It's ok as long as you say sorry after?

Sorry but I just despise hackers and ruining of the community that comes along with them. There needs to be consequences for doing it (life ban from blizzard as a start) and I don't think it matters if it's one game or a season. It should never be done for any reason.

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	AxSGRiM:
	deL:	I think a month ban from site and tourneys would be enough, as a 1st warning. If caught again indefinite ban.
	TAScarecrow:	if you're caught hacking should be a year imo
	MooZfY:
	Imperial:
	ProAnnn:	not so serious, maybe banned from tourneys but not the site?
	Rageboredguy:

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

Seriously I really think FadeEvets should be ostracised from this community, kicked out of fade and never allowed to enter another tourny by sc2sea again.

If you're allowed to cheat, hack and then simply say "LOL sorry guys you caught me it was a one off I promise" then what type of message does it send for others that might be considering trying out hacks in the SEA community? It's ok as long as you say sorry after?

Sorry but I just despise hackers and ruining of the community that comes along with them. There needs to be consequences for doing it (life ban from blizzard as a start) and I don't think it matters if it's one game or a season. It should never be done for any reason.

How about you leave how FaDe handles the situation to FaDe. We will make our own decision and we don't need input from the masses.

Thanks.

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	TAriiChard:	dont fuc k with THE BADGEEEER!!!!
	Maynarde:	The rebel king. He knows a thing or two.
	Flamga:	Well said
	RicocheT:	Badger got claws!
	Welshy:
	sRFullstop:
	Bash:
	AxSGRiM:	SC2SEA admins and Blizzard should deal with the rest though
	inFeZa:	Seems like badger wont... *glasses* let this issue fade away,.... YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
	krycek:
	Nemo:	Exactly !
	nirvAnA:	Well said badger!! <3
	Volition:	SO GOOD - it is a game people - ruining the community, they arent bringing smallpox in! take a chill pill

[mGMUSE]

Refer to this post on page 1 for replay + analysis: http://www.sc2sea.com/showpost.php?p=55234&postcount=20

I can tell you on the multiple times ive played fadeesteve in season2 and season3 he always seems suspicious to me, ive always been able to tell maphackers/wallackers and such easily since i was young and have almost never been wrong about it

I remember him going 40-5 or something for the start of one season. Im extremely sure that game against timber was one of mny many mny many many many many many many many many many games he has maphacked in.

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	sRAnti:	While I think it's funny that you've always been able to tell hacks since you were young, enough people know and trust FaDeEvetS to know that this is not the case
	Nemo:	He said it in the first place. THANKS to Muse
	Xzacutionar:	nice, now i know who to call when I feel like the other person didnt deserve to win
	aztecx:	yeah, same here.
	TAScarecrow:	he did call it earlier, coincidence?
	FaDeBadger:	Map hacking detection is not a skill
	Volition:	literally, how can someone defend themselves based on your "evidence". dont just throw mud
	NvJazBas:	I believe this.

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by mGMUSE

I can tell you on the multiple times ive played fadeesteve in season2 and season3 he always seems suspicious to me, ive always been able to tell maphackers/wallackers and such easily since i was young and have almost never been wrong about it

You just happen to have some sixth sense about these things?

Post proof, or stop stomping on him just because he hacked in one game.

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	mGMUSE:	stop defending your clanmate like an idiot
	Shieldz:	******* idiots go fk ur self if ur going to freaking defend ur mate with nothin.
	EveMassacrisM:	This isn't smart
	NvJazBas:	^
	TCPKiaSu:	i understand whats it's like to defend a clan mate but this is isn't smart

[Flamga]

I do understand where evets comes from and I do agree it does get frustrating, and unfortunately it might take something like this to show everyone that it isnt the way for sure.

But I dont blame you, shit happens, it might take a while for the reprocussions to go away but im sure evets didnt post his failing lightly and will do everything he can to demonstrate that he has what it takes.

Im also sorry it came like this to you man.


I also think this is getting taken out of proportion :/ although I agree that these matters should be taken seriously I think something needs to be setup to deal with this.

All we can do is view our opinions and leave each clan to their players, and once a verdict has been reached leave it at that.

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	Bash:
	FaDeGofire:
	asdfSchnitzel:

[mGMUSE]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

You just happen to have some sixth sense about these things?

Post proof, or stop stomping on him just because he hacked in one game.

Yes.

and he's denying he hacked in that game 3 seasons ago against me, where the evidence is much more solid than timber's replay i believe

edit: apologies for my aggression wasnt intended, please take a look at my analysis and replay

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	FaDeBadger:	What is this.. I don't even...
	ROOT`iaguz:	Oh **** me, you should work for blizz or something
	RicocheT:	this emotion says it all

[Eddie]

Disappointing news Always respected Evets as a team mate, and member of the community. He worked hard improving all the way up to the very top of SEA GM. He certainly has the skill and potential to be right up there. It is a shame that rightly or wrongly being a 'hacker' will take away some of that creditability and respect, but that's what you get i suppose.

At least he owned up to it.

Shall support the clan's standing on this whatever that may be. Evets is a nice and popular member of FaDe, always helping out players in the lower leagues and playing in team events, so hopefully everyone can get past this somehow, and Evets can work on regaining the communities faith/respect.

People make mistakes.

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	FaDeBadger:	Good attitude
	Welshy:
	FaDeGofire:	we'll wait for meatex to come online before we decide
	nirvAnA:	100% agree
	mGGDaedalus:

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

How about you leave how FaDe handles the situation to FaDe. We will make our own decision and we don't need input from the masses.

Thanks.

FaDe will decide how to deal with him, and no I don't expect you to take input from the masses, regardless I'm still more than happy to state my opinion on the matter.

Perhaps though it might highlight that your decision about him has an impact on what some of the 'masses' think of FaDe.

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nirvAnA:

I liked this clarification too