[Roz]

can i suggest that we just go with 5 players a week with even point distribution? Having 4 players and the last player as 2 points puts way too much weight on that 1 single game. The team that wins that last game will most likely end up winning the series if this is the case =.=

[dippa]

should be a bo7 or bo9 format instead, forces teams to have a bit of depth, but any league is better than none.

[Roz]

bo7 is definitely good but the problem is most teams won't have 7 people. It's a huge problem to have the ace as 2 points because for example mith, they just have to put glade in the ace match...chances are they'll get 2 points there. That means the remaining 3 players just needs to win 1 of their series. There's absolutely no depth needed in the line up, that's why i think they should field at least 5 players. That way you'll need at least 3 players to win. If you only need 2 players to win for you every week to win a clan league, it doesn't really feel like a clan league to me at all...

[crAzerk]

Originally Posted by Roz

can i suggest that we just go with 5 players a week with even point distribution? Having 4 players and the last player as 2 points puts way too much weight on that 1 single game. The team that wins that last game will most likely end up winning the series if this is the case =.=

Actually no, the problem with G5 being worth 2 points is that you'll end up with unnecessary draws instead.

E.g.
G1: Team A wins (1-0)
G2: Team A wins (2-0)
G3: Team A wins (3-0)
G4: Team B wins (3-1)
G5 : Team B wins (3-3)

If they win 2 apiece, then it doesn't matter what G5 is worth, can be worth 10 points or 1 point it's the same it will just be a tiebreaker match.

The only point of G5 now it seems is to prolong series. For instance, if G5 is worth 1 point then once a team hits 3 wins the series ends. But if G5 is worth 2 points then at least one more game (G4) must be played, and if Team B wins it then G5 has to be played.

[Roz]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

Actually no, the problem with G5 being worth 2 points is that you'll end up with unnecessary draws instead.

E.g.
G1: Team A wins (1-0)
G2: Team A wins (2-0)
G3: Team A wins (3-0)
G4: Team B wins (3-1)
G5 : Team B wins (3-3)

If they win 2 apiece, then it doesn't matter what G5 is worth, can be worth 10 points or 1 point it's the same it will just be a tiebreaker match.

The only point of G5 now it seems is to prolong series. For instance, if G5 is worth 1 point then once a team hits 3 wins the series ends. But if G5 is worth 2 points then at least one more game (G4) must be played, and if Team B wins it then G5 has to be played.

What i meant is 1 point for each game...and the teams would still want to play out for more points as I'm assuming you'll have group stage so the points would matter? =.=

[TCPKiaSu]

how is aLt not strong??? pig..... han...... yoonyj... ??? o_O

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by TargA

moonglade is in mith you silly bastard.

Mineski now has Australias best player, the worlds best player, the best fillipino and the best player in SEA.

Pretty sick!

How did you know I joined Mineski ? It was a secret deal, about the same as Beckham in the PSG ... Well without the same salary ... In fact without salary

[nirvAnA]

the TCL 4 player matchday format was basically to help accommodate xGking + SQLT, since they both have just 4 players. this already means that they whole lineup has to be committed to play every week. Of course i myself would very much prefer a bigger format like 5-7 games per week, that way teams with more depth will be rewarded and theres also more room for strategy in picking your players and their starting maps.

Also why not have the 2 point ace match still regardless of 4 or 5 matches? since its a league format theres nothing wrong with draws, teams get 3points(win), 1point(Draw) or 0 points(lose), and it might make things more interesting with undefeated streaks instead of the either "WIN/LOSE scenarios only" which we will already have in the "FA Cup"

MiTH have confirmed and accepted GLaDe to play for them for the upcoming season.
Zendex from Mineski it still unsure if its a right decision, he said he will not feel comfortable if his team ends up winning because of tgun and he will have to discuss with his team, which is of course understandable. Should he not wish tgun to play, SQLT will be next in line to have the option to have tgun play for them a golden opportunity i'm sure infeza won't turn down!

[Roz]

well i dunno, up to you guys i suppose... i just think a 4 player match day format is way too few to properly represent clans.

[nirvAnA]

Originally Posted by dippa

actually, that could be an interesting team to throw in the mix.

so yeah, andy+tgun bring back herocraft. should be fun.

having a "clanless" or "mercenary" team will mean 1 less legitimate team gets in. a merc team has no sponsors and its different from what we are trying to accomplish, getting sponsored teams / players air time and keeping their sponsors happy, or getting other strong teams like SPR attention so they can get a good sponsor - all of which will help develop the esports scene in SEAp.

Originally Posted by roz

well i dunno, up to you guys i suppose... i just think a 4 player match day format is way too few to properly represent clans.

it was made primary with xGking and SQLT in mind. if you have any suggestions for that let me know. xGking can use nGen players and arcMSI can use TA players so thats mitigated somewhat. And perhaps SQLT can pick up a "tier 2" clan of their choice as their backup? This would give that backup team some top level experience but of course it would also mean that team cant play in tier 2.

[aLtShortizz]

Originally Posted by Roz

well i dunno, up to you guys i suppose... i just think a 4 player match day format is way too few to properly represent clans.

Im with you buddy, cos 4 pax means i wont get to play T_T

[Zealo]

i think teams should be able to use whoever they can convince to play for them

[BAD.BiGbiRd]

I am of course willing to merc myself out for any team that needs a champion and wishes to win this thing....

K sarcasm off, maybe if you could find another team and then have Herocraft reborn to make it an even amount?? Because i would like to see both GLaDe and Tgun participate but also agree with Pinder that it robs the wins of any validity if they were to carry (Which i assume they would) Also the 4th player on either of those teams and vice versa a player that one of these two knock out may feel cheated after all the hard work they put in training with said team. So GLaDe goes out with MiTH 0-3 and someone playing really well and about to AK for his team then Bang, GLaDe delivers a swift 4-0 rape it kind of negates an achievement for another player.....also this league would be brilliant to see some obviously quite good but lesser known players strut their stuff. In conclusion my opinion is Herocraft reforms and an extra team added aswell or they may have to miss out (Sorry GLaDe/tgun you both) Sorry for the wall of text and i assume terrible grammar throughout, it's like 5 am and im so ******* tired lol

[mGMUSE]

Clans =/= teams, so as this is a clan league i feel that players in sponsored teams should play under their clans and not their sponsored teams(xgking = ngen, the 50 sponsored players from or previously from alt = alt etc)

And bo7 AK format = best

Quick Comments

TAScarecrow:

might as well call it a team league

[Zealo]

well the main point is to have a SEA league for the top teams (the sponsored teams) to compete in...

Quick Comments

nirvAnA:

yeap, name is just a slight technicality

[lolwut]

I'm not sure if Mineski is one of the weaker teams right now....

[[TA]LoSt]

Originally Posted by mGMUSE

Clans =/= teams, so as this is a clan league i feel that players in sponsored teams should play under their clans and not their sponsored teams(xgking = ngen, the 50 sponsored players from or previously from alt = alt etc)

And bo7 AK format = best

Problem is if we do that, mafia/light/sensei/yang etc. play for TA and then players like iaguz and jazbas won't be able to play just because there aren't enough competitive nGen around anymore. Same goes for HuT and Ninja if they're not in nGen/aLt.

[Benji]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

MiTH have confirmed and accepted GLaDe to play for them for the upcoming season.
Zendex from Mineski it still unsure if its a right decision, he said he will not feel comfortable if his team ends up winning because of tgun and he will have to discuss with his team, which is of course understandable. Should he not wish tgun to play, SQLT will be next in line to have the option to have tgun play for them a golden opportunity i'm sure infeza won't turn down!

We only have 3 players, Light has quit. And why isnt it up to the players on what team they play on? I imagine tgun would prefer to play on my team as opposed to MSKI or another asian based team.

nGen is pretty dead, being forced to pull players from the clan is difficult with Hut not being an option, we're getting through TCL4 as the games my sponsored players are playing are heavily weighted as far as points go, if we have to play a Bo5, i'm kind of counting on iaguz, Jaz and Mafia to win their games.

Also am I allowed to sign players that are not on pro teams (Bielsko, Pokerface etc) to xG for the sole purpose of playing in this league and other similar leagues?

[Benji]

Originally Posted by mGMUSE

Clans =/= teams, so as this is a clan league i feel that players in sponsored teams should play under their clans and not their sponsored teams(xgking = ngen, the 50 sponsored players from or previously from alt = alt etc)

And bo7 AK format = best

If there was a team league in SEA, i'd like this idea. But our team and other teams have worked hard to secure sponsors and support our players, it's hardly fair if suddently we cannot play in any team leagues when we are the ones trying to push esports by sponsoring players.

On a side note, if this was to happen, there wouldn't be an nGen team, Mafia is TA, iaguz is aLt and Jaz is Infi atm.

[Xenomorph]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

Also am I allowed to sign players that are not on pro teams (Bielsko, Pokerface etc) to xG for the sole purpose of playing in this league and other similar leagues?

I think it's been stated somewhere that you can't do that. However if you were willing to recruit someone into your team for full time (i.e. not just for this tournament) that would obviously be viable.