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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 1:10 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: EveTechtron.609  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 161 # 21
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its really hard for me to play on tuesday aswell !
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 2:31 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 22
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@tgun: There is no group on Sunday.... groups are Tue/Wed.
You will be seeded to the Double Elim bracket due to your Adelaide ranking though.

@inFeZa: No problem.

@techtron: You'll probably be seeded to the Double Elim bracket also. If not, I'll slot you into the Wednesday Group.
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 2:40 PM BnetId: cRSenSei.831  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 386 # 23
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When do we find out what night we have to play it's leaving it a bitttttt late, kind of holding off plans for this.

Also seeding into the double elim, huh?
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 3:27 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 24
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When do we find out what night we have to play it's leaving it a bitttttt late, kind of holding off plans for this.

Also seeding into the double elim, huh?
Groups will be published tomorrow afternoon, so unless you specifically asked to play on Wednesday, everyone should be prepared to play tomorrow night... just in-case.

Also, you're in the same boat as techtron - most likely seeded directly into the Double Elimination bracket due to your placement at the Brisbane Regional event.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I would have liked to give people more notice but unfortunately there's no cut off on the registration form, so I'm keeping peoples options open as long as possible. So keep signing up people!
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 4:51 PM BnetId: cRSenSei.831  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 386 # 25
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Ok i'd definitely prefer Wednesday night too. Even if I do get seeded into the double elim based off my offline result, i'm under the understanding that it would be better for me to participate in this to get more points to be seeded higher, correct?
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 5:30 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 26
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Ok i'd definitely prefer Wednesday night too. Even if I do get seeded into the double elim based off my offline result, i'm under the understanding that it would be better for me to participate in this to get more points to be seeded higher, correct?
I dont think you understand what 'seeded through to double elim' means.... ya dumbass....

As far as my understanding, tuesday/wednesday night is a qualifier for the double elim bracket to be played this sat/sun. However if you've got a high placing in one of the offline events already, you wont have to play tuesday/wednesday because you'll be seeded straight into sat/sun.

Whatever position you place on the sat/sun will determine how many points you get from the online qualifier... Then your points from the offline event are combined with your points from the online event to make up your total score (and for those who never attended an offline event, their total score is simply 150% of their online score), and that decides whether or not you qualify to ACL gold coast.

Actually now that ive typed it, it is actually kinda confusing, but hopefully that all makes sense and hopefully my understanding is correct, someone correct me if it isnt ;o

edit: so basically, in my understanding, me and you wont have to play tuesday or wednesday night at this stage as we most likely placed high enough in the offline quals to get seeded straight into the Ro32 double elim bracket on sat/sun.
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 5:40 PM BnetId: TAminimat.828  Race: Clan: TA  Total Posts Made: 706 # 27
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So this is kinda like a mini MLG played on seperate days? Who ever gets out of group stages goes into the finals brackets with the already seeded players on the weekend?
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 5:46 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 28
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So this is kinda like a mini MLG played on seperate days? Who ever gets out of group stages goes into the finals brackets with the already seeded players on the weekend?
The MLG analogy is pretty horrible... but yeah the other thing you said is correct by my understanding (again stressing my understanding, should probably wait for dox or someone to come along and confirm it before you take it as 100% truth cos its somewhat confusing.)
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 6:24 PM BnetId: Paroxysm.938  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Townsville, Australia  Total Posts Made: 626 # 29
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I have work tomorrow night until 9pm AEST, there is no way that I can come late is there? :S
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 6:32 PM BnetId: Aiya.930  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 55 # 30
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As far as my understanding, tuesday/wednesday night is a qualifier for the double elim bracket to be played this sat/sun. However if you've got a high placing in one of the offline events already, you wont have to play tuesday/wednesday because you'll be seeded straight into sat/sun.

Whatever position you place on the sat/sun will determine how many points you get from the online qualifier... Then your points from the offline event are combined with your points from the online event to make up your total score (and for those who never attended an offline event, their total score is simply 150% of their online score), and that decides whether or not you qualify to ACL gold coast.

Actually now that ive typed it, it is actually kinda confusing, but hopefully that all makes sense and hopefully my understanding is correct, someone correct me if it isnt ;o
I believe this is correct because I asked Vanzr (sorry if I spelt your name wrong) about this at LanSmash yesterday and he said pretty much that.
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 8:20 PM BnetId: cRSenSei.831  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 386 # 31
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ok this is starting to confuse me, i thought dox was talking about seeding to the finals @ GC in january. When will they be decided? Cause as far as my understanding goes I was under the assumption that top 3 at offline events would be good enough for the finals. So we get special privileges for the online tournaments for our results offline, that doesn't seem right.
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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 8:56 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 32
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I have work tomorrow night until 9pm AEST, there is no way that I can come late is there? :S
I can put you down for Wednesday, if that's more suitable?


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ok this is starting to confuse me, i thought dox was talking about seeding to the finals @ GC in january. When will they be decided? Cause as far as my understanding goes I was under the assumption that top 3 at offline events would be good enough for the finals. So we get special privileges for the online tournaments for our results offline, that doesn't seem right.
It's pretty straight forward, it's the same way I ran the IPL Australia qualifiers.

Group Stages -> Top players from each group advance to the Double Elimination bracket.

People who have performed at the Regional Events have already shown that they're likely candidates to advance from their groups, so by seeding them directly to the Double Elimination bracket, it gives other guys a better chance to advance from their groups (and encourages them to participate).

There are two ways to accumulate points for the National Finals:
1) Attend a Regional event
2) Attend an Online event

Both of these methods stack, essentially allowing you to accumulate more points for participating in more events. The top 16 players with the most points after the Regional & Online events will be invited to the National Event at the Gold Coast on Jan 21/22.

There will also be an Open Bracket at the Gold Coast where anyone can rock up and play.
If you'd like more info on this, I'll happily explain once we've made it through the Online event.

Also keep in mind that the Gold Coast event is only the first National event of 2012. We'll also be in Sydney and Melbourne 3-4 months later, with a "National Finals" being held at the end of the year as well (location TBA).

So essentially it works like this:

2012 League 1:
BNE Regional
SYD Regional
MEL Regional
ADE Regional
Online Event
Gold Coast National Event

2012 League 2:
BNE Regional
SYD Regional
MEL Regional
ADE Regional
PTH Regional (hopefully)
Online Event (x3)
Sydney National Event

2012 League 3:
etc...


Your comment that top 3 being good enough for the finals is pretty much correct. But you will continue to accumulate points for the entirety of ACL, not just this one league. So you always want to ensure you get points any way you can.

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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 9:16 PM BnetId: PickleWeasel  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 462 # 33
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Can i be put down for Wednesday? Wont be able to make Tuesday night.

Edit: dont worry about it, going to have to unregister. Double elim is during the day...have work so if i did get through group id have to forfeit ><.

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Old Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 9:33 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: BiGbiRd.203  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Melrose, Australia  Total Posts Made: 267 # 34
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Sigh, all these SEA events start like an hour before i finish work every. Single. One.

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Sigh, all these SEA events start like an hour before i finish work every. Single. One.

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Take a sick day / ask for work off / create a clone to work that day

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Old Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 6:05 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: BiGbiRd.203  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Melrose, Australia  Total Posts Made: 267 # 36
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Take a sick day / ask for work off / create a clone to work that day
Taking a sick day is kind of hard when i live at work (Long story lol) seeing as i've worked 15/16 days the last fortnightish i could probably get work off/create a clone, the only problem is that the ethernet cord runs through the doorway of the dining room to my room (I live at the pub) so old mate Kimbo, the publican and boss would get annoyed one day i'll be able to practice then play these events.....untill that day i shall sporadically ladder badly and attend minimal LANs in Adelaide when i can scrounge a weekend off lol

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Old Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 9:44 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 37
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Can i be put down for Wednesday? Wont be able to make Tuesday night.

Edit: dont worry about it, going to have to unregister. Double elim is during the day...have work so if i did get through group id have to forfeit ><.
You should still compete in the group stages to get whatever points you can.


This is tonight people! Groups will be posted in a few hours.
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Old Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 9:47 AM BnetId: PickleWeasel  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 462 # 38
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You should still compete in the group stages to get whatever points you can.


This is tonight people! Groups will be posted in a few hours.
Hmm ok, fair enough. Put me in Wednesday anyway . Will there be more online rounds before GC next year?

Thanks Dox!
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Old Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 10:09 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 39
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Nope, as per the info post above, there is only 1 Online round for this National event. For future National events, there will be several.
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