[Exilemic]

i think he gave yjy's slot to AZKziek coz he's his teammate.

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by Exilemic

i think he gave yjy's slot to AZKziek coz he's his teammate.

nah Ziek was going to this before the Australian Qualfiiers were even announced

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by Exilemic

i think he gave yjy's slot to AZKziek coz he's his teammate.

No, Ziek's spot was known ages before the qualifiers were finished. YYJ's spot was given to AZKSickness.

[|Erasmus|]

Well, IGN basically backing up Yoon with them saying they handed out all the money that was required for the event to run (and an extra player NEXSickness being flown in to compete instead of Yoon... how is that possible when you couldn't find any money for Yoon? )

So yeah, AZK = dicks is what I'm getting from this.

And Dox did a good job with the qualifier... even signing contracts to try and hold AZK to this deal. I really hope there is some legal grounds for this to come back to bite them for breaking that contract.

Since it's clear that IGN won't partner with AZK again after removing their streaming privileges and the like, Dox, you should definitely (if they are serious about trying to get foreign, possibly SEA, players to their events) try and get them to agree to invite the winner of your ACL finals to future IPL events

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nirvAnA:

great idea, dox should have just held it in the first place! :)

[DonDiego]

I think they obviously wanted a ridiculous amount of AZK players to increase the chance of winning the tournament money...

People like that should just NOT BE PART OF E-SPORTS.

[JordsKeen]

Plain silly in my opinion. But props to you man for not going overboard. Your next chance will come, your just that good bro ^_^

[ProLagger]

Just to clarify, I hope this only affects Team AZK and not Philippines in general. Thanks

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MooZfY:

Yup only to TEAM AZK not Philippines :P

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by DonDiego

I think they obviously wanted a ridiculous amount of AZK players to increase the chance of winning the tournament money...

People like that should just NOT BE PART OF E-SPORTS.

Also a lot of AZK players cause it's in the phillipines, they are based in the phillipines, and if you don't receive a paid invite, you would need to win to redeem your flight/accom/etc costs for attending the event.

Most SEA teams are not going to spend such a big chunk of their travel money on this event since they're unlikely to get a return from it.

[Benji]

By biggest worry is how far this will set back the SEA scene. From what I can see, the rest of the world will simply see this as what SEA is like, where we know is far from the truth (only really Rossi, Jabito and Enderr are representative of us, and AZK have almost zero community interaction).

It's a very disappointing day to be honest. I'm pretty sure IGN will not support future AZK events, and I don't see a reason why they would pursue hosting or supporting another event here when they can look at Europe and the success they are having there. From what I can tell, they only signed with AZK because the PPSL was already planned, and it didn't take as much effort to support it, however if they are going to build something from the ground up, I'm not sure they will look at doing it here.

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dippa:

exactly. this could be like the CXG for sc2 in SEA.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by ProLagger

Just to clarify, I hope this only affects Team AZK and not Philippines in general. Thanks

Why would it ? Generalizing a bad behavior of some guys to all member of a country would have absolutely no sense. It does even not generalize to all AZK members as Yooun has told himself some of them directly helped him :

I would like to emphasise that the actual clan AZK consist of wonderful people; it was with the training of many of the Koreans involved in this clan (which are involved in clan lof in kr) that I was successful in qualifying to this tournament.

First and foremost, there has been many people that know Gus personally, and others that are directly involved with AZK that I have been speaking to. I would like to give my sincere thanks for your genuine help in working with me to convince Gus to obtain his part of the contract; I will not forget this. I will be keeping these friends anonymous as I believe I do not have a right to meddle in their relationship with Gus.

Youn, don't be too dis-hearted, your talent will have other and better opportunities.

[deL]

Well written YoonYJ, very informative and professional - unfortunate that you had to do it but props for keeping your cool. I'd probably be looking at another ban if it had happened to me :P

Sadly I was not at all surprised when this happened, and am still not surprised to hear that they used the situation to benefit another AZK member. I think IGN made a mistake associating their tournament with this event as it was as bias as any I've seen before - it's basically a clan inhouse tournament plus a few special guests acting as a qualifier for a whole region of the world and it's not right.

Also I feel sorry for Dox as I know how embarassing it is when something out of your control reflects badly on something you have put a lot of time, thought and effort into running smoothly.

Originally Posted by SatuSPR

This is linked on screddit as well. Pretty much everyone in the community is going to hear about it. (Not saying everyone reads reddit, just it could pop up on TL as well)

You really cant get away with stuff like this anyone in this community. I can still bring up Xeris and (at the time) sixjaxterran, and people would still easily be able to recall what each did which was unfair to people in the community. So basically I cant imagine how much this will tarnish Gus's reputation.

Can we get an upvote link?

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inFeZa:

[DonDiego]

Someone on reggedit suggested Gus should have the scumbag hat. What do you guys think?

A friend made this meme, is kinda funny lol http://memegenerator.net/instance/11254937

[PiG]

Just gunna repost what I put on the IGN announcement article on TL:

As a player from SEA who's heavily invested in the community I can say that team AZK and the PPSL looked dodgy from the start. These guys have a pretty poor reputation due to certain members being trolls etc. They even put all these average players into the tournament whom aren't even of a competitive level for some of the smaller weekly tourneys in SEA. The only time I've seen them make a noteworthy performance was in a clan-match with Xeria Gaming where they won 4-1 with a lineup of players who didn't speak english, on guest accounts on supposedly their own server, and no1 had ever heard of any of them. It turned out they were ''Koreans living in the Phillipines and active members of AZK" but I never saw any of them again so my doubts about this team kept growing...

I also wondered how the hell any organiser in SEA would get enough money to produce the event properly, fly so many players there and schedule it accurately. There isn't that much sponsorship in SEA as its eSPORTS is just starting to pick up down here so I was always shocked to hear such grand plans. Now I find out IPL/IGN were providing monetary support and the event was still so badly organised really makes the organisers look quite silly.


Hats off to IPL/IGN for accepting responsibility for having trusted these guys to put on a good event. As the scene here is quite small I can completely understand AZK mixed reputation being completely unknown.

[DonDiego]

Yeah Yoon is being quite professional It's not him doing the memes.

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|Erasmus|:

Yoon is trying to be professional about this, not start a flame war and look like a spoilt brat not getting his ticket... :(

[CubeSalt]

Gus is the corruptor of sc2... he also cancelled the flight of all members of team cubes from the province of philippines (cebu) whos qualify from the tournament IPL ... this guy is racist and scumbag... he's taking advantage of esports for his own interest... this guy must be stop and be cast out from the community of esports... damn you u giving bad image of the philippine esports gaming industry...

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	TAEdgE:	oh wow, didn't know about this!
	nirvAnA:	so cute english!! haha but thanks for sharing this
	EveMassacrisM:	What a buncha fucktards
	ZraF:

[porkchop]

this is a big hit not only to the starcraftPH community but also to AZK, i hope this doesnt happen again, ( im a filipino hopefully the next IPL or MLG goes to the highest bidder in SEA, no bullshit pls... SC2 is awesome, and this makes me sad... not to mention the IPL stream was a joke...

GG to u yjy... i feel for u man....

[DonDiego]

Originally Posted by CubeSalt

Gus is the corruptor of sc2... he also cancelled the flight of all members of team cubes from the province of philippines (cebu) whos qualify from the tournament IPL ... this guy is racist and scumbag... he's taking advantage of esports for his own interest... this guy must be stop and be cast out from the community of esports... damn you u giving bad image of the philippine esports gaming industry...

Agreed. He deserves the scumbag hat! http://memegenerator.net/instance/11254937

[zendex]

Only the upper management has some "issues". Feel bad for the good AZK people.

[freaky_beeky]

This is extremely disappointing to hear, not just for Yoon but for SEA E-Sports scene overall. I eagerly look upon e-sports in the SEA community, especially the SC2 scene and am shocked at how this unfolded. With such big names at the event attracting the eyes of the international community upon us, for “us” to then deliver such a substandard, deceptive and disorganised event will no doubt leave a mark. I really feel for Dox and others who participated in the event, having spent real effort to have been rewarded like this. I hope as a result of this debacle we see the end of tournaments such as this in SEA and make way for a huge contrast of quality in the future, such that we can get some real sponsorship and growth of the scene.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by mOOnGLaDe

This is a real shame and to be honest quite fucked. He also offered me a spot if i joined his team, which seemed a little weird considering i had heard things about yoon getting dodgy responses from the guy, plus i wasn't about to take a spot i didn't earn.

While i am a 'competitive rival' and i did lose to yoon in the qualifiers :P i definitely feel this is a betrayal and an insult on all of us competing for the spots and i really feel for yoon and want to do whatever i can to make sure this never happens again.

Why do I suddenly get the feeling NEXSickness might have been offered a spot in this tournament as part of his decision to go join a foreign unknown team which seems unlikely to offer him many benefits in Korea.

Just to be clear, I don't see how (unlike Glade) Sickness could have known how accepting that would affect YoonYJ.

And also a lot more respect for glade for not accepting such a ridiculous offer. That is just incredibly biased, to sell out Yoon to try and seduce players onto your team who wouldn't otherwise join...