[pikk0n]

Lol... amorn... told ya to go after nobunaga. So I live to spew shit again for another day and my safe buddy is gone. We know for sure that zanderax and I are mafia so either draw us or kill me today. Told ya citizens that if I died yesterday it would benefit the mafia more. Hehe... big risk, eh? If you kill either zanderax or I today, it shouldn't matter but right now, we are trying to find the last tortellini member. Trust the other family to go after professionals lol... we have an idea on who the last tortellini is but will try our luck with our kill tonight. Do you trust the rosellini or the tortellini to miss a non mafia? It is entirely up to you. You get to kill me tomorrow for sure if I live today. skrawl?

My vote is for Zanderax for obvious reasons and his for me. Lol...the free win for crazerk was definitely worth it, wasn't it?


Got home on my laptop now: Hmm..... I need to get rid of this horrible habit of helping the citizens out too much. Damnit, Benji! Don't ever give me another killing role. LOL! Hmm.... Killing Zanderax today would actually benefit you guys more so I suggest killing me. Killing NEITHER of us would screw you guys up so you have to pick one. Flip a coin yourself or draw us and let Benji flip the coin.

I'll try my best to refrain myself from posting and changing my votes but ooooohhhh.... I am so tempted to write another book. LOL!

[nard]

R u taking the heat off dtorr for the obvious reasons?
Vote dtorr



Edit: we should force a tie between pikkon and the person he is clearly trying to deflect attention away from... Which is dtorr btw...

[pikk0n]

Originally Posted by nard

R u taking the heat off dtorr for the obvious reasons?
Vote dtorr

You might want to read my final edit. Last round, I mentioned that crazerk's death will benefit the citizens more. This time, it's no different. If neither of us die, the town is screwed. My death will benefit my family and the mafia more. I strongly suggest killing me today. You're going to waste a vote on a random lynch rather than 2 confirmed mafia?

Read your edit: Well, if he's a town member, you just royally screwed yourself. Don't force a tie between me and another non-mafia because he'll die. I don't see the point.

[Nobunaga]

It's interesting how everything turned out.

I find it odd that nard would vote for a random player against a mafia player. The correct votes for today is to vote out pikk0n, because he's mafia. The other choice is Zanderax, because pikk0n has been going on and on about how he has to be mafia. In the face of these two choices, why vote Dtorr when we really have nothing to go on except that he voted really quickly after Crazerk a few turns ago?

Considering that Crazerk's role was Joker, if you see his reasoning now, he played a very smart game by making himself sound very annoying and inconsistent. Now, the only reason we have to vote Dtorr is that he voted quickly with Crazerk, which is a pretty inconsistent argument. Lets say that we put him against pikk0n. He auto-dies if he's not mafia, and if he's mafia it's a 50/50. It is probably one of the worst moves to do.

I don't know where he came up with the reasoning of deflecting attention away from Dtorr, because pikk0n hasn't ever mentioned him at all.

[nard]

My reasons are simple. Dtorr survived a tie.
But yes u r right. I'm surprised that pikkon isn't killed off by now.
Switching vote to pikkon

[DtorR]

Might as well leave pikkon for last. I vote Zanderax.

[Zanderax]

Guys pikk0n told us he was mafia, the only other thing he could be is joker.
votes pikk0n

[ToRskrawL]

vote Pikkon

[Nobunaga]

1st Day of Voting: Sonata dies
Voted include pikk0n, bakainu, jackwong

2nd Day of Voting: HDPhoneix dies
Voted by bakainu and jackwong. pikk0n voted for nard.

3rd Day of Voting: Paroxysm dies
Votes did no include pikk0n, bakainu, and jackwong because they all didn't vote.

4th Day of Voting: Crazerk dies
Votes included jackwong, bakainu and pikk0n.

Yes or no?

[pikk0n]

Nobunaga, you just gave yourself away as the rosellini member. Thanks. I took a massive risk last round by voting for crazerk but as I said, I already won mafia. I suspected that he is the joker or mafia. I was expecting to die from the Lynch but didn't thanks to the joker being counted equal to a citizen/informant. Otherwise, benji's blunder with zergtastic's vote would kill me. As I said yesterday, my death benefits the mafia. The reason for that is because I am not the mafia as claimed. I am the informant. I can finally show myself without gifting the professional a win. Tortellini, if I were you, I'd keep me alive rather than expose yourself by voting for me. Of the ones I investigated, only Dtorr is still alive and innocent. The rest are dead. Pokerface was killed by the rosellini because i exposed him. Now it is zanderax's turn. do you think killing me will help your cause? The rosellini will still have two members and you'll be left with one unknown. Take the risk and save this informant for one more night or kill chance of winning?

Think of why I survived last night despite not being a mafia. The rosellini needs me to die today in case I get lucky and investigate them. If I survive during the day, they will kill me tonight instead of your last member. I helped them yesterday, I shall help you today because let's face it, your chances increase higher if you can snipe their second member. Crazerk's death really helped you out with the death of bakainu. You have zanderax who has been exposed. Do you want the rosellini to figure who you are through the votes? Not many non mafias to sift through. That said, the citizens and survivor stand a chance of winning with the second rosellini revealed.

Here's the reason I didn't investigate nobunaga last night. I thought the prof will waste a kill on him but he didn't and got killed by you. I decided to be sure with zanderax and investigate him. Guilty and you killed the prof last night. Big blunder, guys.

Nobunaga, you asked for a tied vote between nard and I for what reason? At this stage of the game, tied votes screw the town over. Yet you asked for one? You're so vocal and yes. you are right. Informants, unless he's pikkon wouldn't be a vocal nutjob. You are a mafia! And a member of the rosellini family who has decided that it is safe to come out because some nutjob just suicided. My suicide benefited you yesterday but today will kill you. I do stupid shit but it always kills a mafia. This time, it'll kill you.

It was better to claim that I was a mafia yesterday as it is proven so far. Same risk I took last round with the arsonist beating mafia tie. Had crazerk and I tied in round 3, I would be suspected as the mafia and they would know I'm the arsonist. I take a lot of risks.

Lol... on the first day, who did not vote for sonata. On the second day, you're tying that how? It was a random vote on random people. Those who posted before us. Third day, there was barely a yelp from the accused. I did not keep track of votes even once.

citizens, I am the informant. Your second rosellini has shown himself. Nobunaga! as I said, my death will benefit the mafia more, so kill me. I said the same thing yesterday. And as you all saw, my survival placed you in a better position today. Rosellini's last member, I suggest you kill either zanderax or nobunaga with the daytime Lynch to remain hidden. If you don't kill me tonight, I might find you. If you keep nobunaga alive against zanderax, you will force the tortellini to kill nobu and not you. If the tortellini wants to risk finding your last member like they did last night, they might find the second informant seeing how they have been so bad with their killing now. That would benefit you. This day and night play is extremely important for everyone. My death will benefit the mafia so survivor, citizen and the last informant, help me out. It'll save you from getting killed tonight since the mafia will Target me. If they don't, they will have me possibly investigate the last rosellini or tortellini member. I'll reveal my findings tomorrow if I survive.

Mafia, if you coordinate your votes against me now, you'll expose your last members assuming the citizens are smart enough to not commit suicide. Wanna risk killing me?

[jackwong]

Vote Zanderax

[Nobunaga]

Voting pikk0n. It's pretty obvious from the votes so far, that jackwong is in league with pikk0n, and from pikk0n's lengthy reaction post that Rosellini has been found out.

Sure the first few votes can be random, but as we get more and more to the later rounds and trying to make ties or to lynch specific targets, a mafia will need all their votes on one person to seal the deal. This was shown in the last few vote attempts, when an entire mafia abstained (it didn't matter) or voted the same person (they believed Crazerk was a mafia, and needed him eliminated to take the advantage).

If pikk0n gets lynched, Tortellini will need to kill jackwong off, or risk getting one of them killed by him at night, and possibly getting eliminated in the next daytime lynch.

[EveRorschach]

Voting pikk0n because he mindf*cks me at the best of times. Though this has been the best read of the 4 mafia games!

[nard]

im going to have to point out something real obvious. dtorr and pikkon are both in the same family.

my observations:

dtorr survived a tie. increasing the likelihood that he is mafia by a little bit

pikk0n jumps in, claims he is mafia, and now claims he is informant. which i think is unlikely. so he is mafia

pikk0n keeps moving attention away from dtorr. (flimsy evidence but still there)

now the icing on the cake, dtorr wants to save pikkon "for last"

[nard]

switching my vote back to dtorr as a result.

@nobunaga: are u saying that the 3 of them are in one family and we should ignore dtorr totally?

[DtorR]

ok nard your next after voting and nighttime.

[nard]

i've come to a conclusion that killing pikkon might result in a townie dying..
Lovers. hence the one extra person seeming to want to protect pikkon all the time, a.k.a dtorr.

switch votes to Zanderax

[Zanderax]

Oi! A guy comes forth that he is a Mafia and he is not instantly killed? How does this work? I mean is crAzerk was mafia and he said it to get everyone to vote for crAzerk then thats ok but crAzerk was a completely innocent joker. We have a mafia so lets take him out.

[nard]

There are three lines of thought here that is prevalent in this round.

1. Leaving pikkon for lynch later/leaving pikkon for other mafia's nighttime kill.
2. Forcing ties with pikkon to further root out more mafia
3. Keeping pikkon alive for now because he might be lovers with a townie. (my personal line of thought)

[pikk0n]

Originally Posted by Zanderax

Oi! A guy comes forth that he is a Mafia and he is not instantly killed? How does this work? I mean is crAzerk was mafia and he said it to get everyone to vote for crAzerk then thats ok but crAzerk was a completely innocent joker. We have a mafia so lets take him out.

Yeah, I came out yesterday claiming to be the mafia and your family fell for it. You tried going after the other unknown Rosellinis and ended up killing the prof which worked wonderfully. I was hoping the prof would waste his last kill on Nobunaga but he didn't. Claiming to be a citizen = suspected mafia, informant = Not enough good info + free win to prof, prof = hmm.... Probably a better idea, mafia = voted by some of the citizens but they'd try and force a tie with someone else. If I died, the other person would be lynched the next day or killed by the mafia wanting a lead. It is mafia wars anyway so they'd turn against each other.

Benji, no vote change here

The death of the 'innocent' joker killed the prof, and a mafia from each family. You're just sour because you lost pokerface.

Right now, it's a tie so you guys will end up killing an informant. Before I die, I'll leave a present for Nobunaga's Rosellini family. I didn't investigate this person but I got a sudden suspicion. I mentioned in my long post yesterday that pokerface and you are extremely good buddies in this round. Now that I go through yesterday's post, it seems that he changed his vote to Rorshach as a joke right after what Rorshach has said about the tie and your OWNED comment is directed at your mafia buddy in Rorshach. The close bonds doesn't really seem as obvious as that of yours with pokerface BUT there was something there. I'd say I'm 70% sure on this.

That said, Rorshach did thumbs up my post yesterday. Could it be that he's a Rosellini member being rather satisfied and a little proud at the fact that their family is 'protected' from a kill? Those actions seem a little sus.

Why I decided to expose you Rors? It's not because I investigated you but because your vote for me made me angry. So I figured I'll chuck in this one last bit of information to the citizens/mafia before i die. If you're the Tortellini, then Rosellini has won the mafia wars but not the wars with the town yet.

So one last mafia I found is Rorshach with 70% certainty . By the end of this game, we shall see how accurate my lynches have been in the couple of mafia games I've played up till now. I knew that crazerk was not a townsfolk but misjudged him for really being the mafia but that misjudgement kept me alive and gave the townsfolk a much higher chance at winning this game. Good luck, guys. Find the last remaining mafia member!