[Paroxysm]

are you the informant then ? sounds like it...

[Next_rim]

Crazerk,

Remember the table I made last game before getting sniped by mindless mob? Your points are valid only as long as any separate day is treated as independent experiment. Since we have a diminishing number of people after each vote series, one lynch affects the odds in the next lynch directly, so two scenarios are interconnected.

Right now it doesn't matter. However, last game we had a whole bunch of ties, all in a row, and one mafia player survived them all until tied with me. As I was mafia too, he got coin-lynched, revealing me as mafia as well.

SO, if we force several ties in a row with same person, the odds of him being mafia do in fact grow for two simple reasons:

Odds of being tied twice in a row GIVEN that one of the tiee (can I say that? ) is mafia increase with each round
As more citizens die, odds of random lynching a mafia, in a tie or not, increase, as the population diminishes.

So it is in fact benefitial to force ties, as long as it is several ties in a row with same surviving person, and the more in the game we are, and the more mafia is left, the better it is.

[Paroxysm]

^ This is my pretty much my reasoning behind trying to force ties throughout the game, but I couldn't explain it that well because unlike Next_rim, I am not mathematically gifted . Well said.

[ToRDeathsFang]

I only saw updates from me dieing now because i was deathly sick since Saturday o.0
COME ON why am i always dieing early -.-" F*ck you mafia families

[crAzerk]

@next_rim
You are right, the mathematical probability of a person being Mafia increases the more ties he survive in a single Mafia game.
Then again, let's say the very person you targeted to be held in ties for multiple rounds is NOT a Mafia, you are giving Mafia a free ride for a long time.

Regardless, I agree with this - Forcing a tie is pointless unless you aim to do it for multiple rounds.

[nard]

well... if ppl voting for u makes it seem suspicious... i find ppl switching votes to protect you even more suspicious.

[Benji]

Lennx has been killed by the Professional. He is a Citizen.

Next_rim has been killed by the Tortellini Family. He is a Vigilante.

1. Meatex
2. Nobunaga
3. crAzerk
4. BakaInu
5. LennX - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Professional (Citizen)
6. HDPhoenix - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens (Citizen)
7. pokerface
8. Paroxysm
9. Deathsfang - ***DEAD*** Killed by Both Families (Arsonist)
10. Skrawl
11. SONATA - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens (Citizen)
12. mustapusta
13. Zanderax
14. DtorR
15. nard
16. Rorschach
17. pikk0n
18. jackwong
19. Amornthep
20. Zergtastic
21. Next_rim - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Tortellini Family (Vigilante)

Players have 48 hours to submit their votes for the Daytime vote.

[pikk0n]

Benji, I thought HD died or did he come back to life? Pretty sure 3 citizens are already dead.... -.-

EDIT (not voting): So Lennx's death means that amornthep isn't working with him and they were just trying to protect themselves. We have 1 prof and 1 vigi left making that 3 kills (prof has 1 kill and vigi has 2 kills left) that will actually hit a mafia. Still pretty even seeing that mafia members will most probably start killing each other soon.4 citizens left... We should be able to lynch ONE mafia today.... If we don't ONE mafia has to die tonight. Our luck can't possibly get any worse. On the bright side, the doc saved the correct person last night and the mafia families haven't been able to register more than 1 kill. Pretty even but if we kill one citizen today and the mafia families don't hit each other tonight, we're kinda screwed. Today's vote will be important and we do not want to lynch the prof or the vigi.

[Benji]

My bad, my template at work wasn't updated >< (One at home was tho)

Also FYI, the Professional is not citizen aligned and is actually trying to kill your Informats and Vigilantes.

[Next_rim]

21. Next_rim - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)

By mafia, not citizens, correct it plz Benji ) Or it looks that I sucked and caused mob rage.

[Benji]

Sorry Next_rim, obviously rushed the post a little ><

And Deathsfang, you're dead, if you post game related stuff again you'll recieve a ban from the game.

[LennX]

I threw a huge smoke bomb to lure mafia and vigilante to kill me in the night and the bloody doctor thinks that I'm a mafia. Maybe next time I need to ask here for doctor to save me. Well I will laugh if the doctor has been saving a mafia all this time.

XOXO everyone


Edit: benji don't ban me. This is my last will and testament :P

[pikk0n]

Read yesterday's lynch and seeing that the other mafia family's kill was blocked, there's a high chance that the person saved by the doc is crazerk since Lennx died in his last ditch attempt to save himself from a lynch today. If the doc didn't save him, the only logical person to save would be crazerk. So, we can safely assume that crazerk wouldn't die at night. If that's the case, it's best if we let crazerk lead the daytime lynch rather than make ourselves the targets at night. Of course, this is assuming that crazerk isn't a member of the um... Tortellini Family.... LOL! I suppose we'd eventually know towards the end of this mafia round depending on who he lynches during the day. If he kills a Tortellini member, we can safely trust his judgement. This is assuming the doc saved crazerk and he's not a member of the other family based on this assumption.

[Zanderax]

As with the current trend, the last person to post gets my vote. Pikk0n

[crAzerk]

Can someone remind me about the rules of tiebreaker? I know Mafia > Citizen, but how about Citizen vs all the other non-Citizen roles? I've looked through the OP but found nothing.

Wow, if doctor really saved my life then thank you very much whoever you are. I hope you stay alive long enough to keep protecting me.. because I don't think Mafia is going to stop targeting me.

Anyway, this particular post seemed odd to me:

Originally Posted by Paroxysm

are you the informant then ? sounds like it...

Why would a Citizen want to draw attention to someone who may be the Informant? The Informant is beneficial to the Citizens and so should be kept alive and out of the spotlight as much as possible.

By this reasoning, I think Paroxysm is one of the 'suspicious' non-Citizen roles.

I vote for Paroxysm.

[ToRDeathsFang]

Originally Posted by Benji

Sorry Next_rim, obviously rushed the post a little ><

And Deathsfang, you're dead, if you post game related stuff again you'll recieve a ban from the game.

I don't like being dead, why does everyone have to keep targetting me

[Benji]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

Can someone remind me about the rules of tiebreaker? I know Mafia > Citizen, but how about Citizen vs all the other non-Citizen roles? I've looked through the OP but found nothing.

Arsonist > Mafia > Everything else

Except for the Joker death in which case

Professional > Everything else

[crAzerk]

Except for the Joker death in which case

What does this mean? After the Joker dies the Professional wins all tiebreakers?

[LennX]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

What does this mean? After the Joker dies the Professional wins all tiebreakers?

If the professional is one of them who voted for the Joker death during the day lynching, he wont be considered for the random death that happens.

Tim, Dick and Harry voted for the joker to die. Tom is the professional. So only Dick and Harry will be considered for the random deaths due to killing of the joker. Regardless of what other role they may have.

[DtorR]

Voting Paroxysm