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BeCosmos · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 8:30 PM

My stream is not famous so I didn't even guess that he could streamsnipe me but even if it is what he did, it is cheating.

When he is defending himself saying I'm raging or mad, it doesn't make any sense... I gged and it was the first game for me this day so I just knew I played bad, told to myself: "aaah played so bad, but let'st check the replay, just in case (for the medivac drop at bottom of the map especially, but I first thought that he would have see it by any way)". It is only by chance/accident (for him) that I found the stimpack without seeing my base at top left and with the confirmation he didn't see my medivacs at the bottom

More, it was TvT and the mu being perfectly balanced, if you lose you fucked up. I even think that without the cheat he would probably have win since I played terribly and he macroed better. He would have take a bit more dammages to the drop but would have been able to clean it pretty easily and finish the game.

I repeat: I am not mad, not even raging at him after discovering the cheat just having pity but hoping for sanction. If you didn't see the replay yet, I encourage you to do it. It is the first time I am almost certain that I played a cheater in more than 2000 games on starcraft 2 (maybe got drophacked but can't really see if it was a drophack or my connection having a problem).

SungInSPR · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 8:45 PM

He is a too noob as a maphack player. I am sure he is not using hack

Xenomorph · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 8:51 PM

Thia accusation appalls me. Meany would never hack and never will hack. He may always go for some 2 base timing/all in which dies more than 90% of the time, but how does that mean he hacks? This thread is saddening....

SoongHeeSPR · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 8:55 PM

LOL this is so funny that i cannot even stop laughing cosmos u r amazing train harder dude

RockSPR · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 8:57 PM

you know what.....meany is one of the most fcking noob in our clan....zzz then u lost to him....zz

[TA]LoSt · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 9:05 PM

Too noob to maphack..? Come on, if you're going to support a clan mate at least come up with something more solid/factual than that..

MeaNy is a mate of mine so I'm not having a say in this, I just hope he doesn't. There are bronze players maphacking and still in bronze; maphack doesn't automatically make you a top tier player..

Xenomorph · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 9:07 PM

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Originally Posted by [TA]LoSt

Too noob to maphack..? Come on, if you're going to support a clan mate at least come up with something more solid/factual than that..

MeaNy is a mate of mine so I'm not having a say in this, I just hope he doesn't. There are bronze players maphacking and still in bronze; maphack doesn't automatically make you a top tier player..

LOL im pretty sure what sungin means is that meany is to dumb to even know how to map hack.

Champi · Sat, 2nd-Jul-2011, 9:51 PM

He certainly wasnt map hacking when i took his 20 ladder points with mass archons on delta quadrant

i like meany, and i like SPR. they are my homies, and they dont hack

Super Party Rockers ftw

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positive rep for actually talking about a game you won

BeCosmos · Sun, 3rd-Jul-2011, 1:22 AM

Too much bias in your posts, I'm sure you didn't even read my post and didn't even watch the replay, you just defend blindly your friend or use non-sense arguments like "he is too noob to know how to hack". I was hoping some serious answer on this serious case but I was wrong.
Bye.

deL · Sun, 3rd-Jul-2011, 7:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BeCosmos

I was wrong.

Story of the thread, gg. Bye.

TAVoices · Sun, 3rd-Jul-2011, 8:39 AM

Smoke more weed cosmos

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optiX · Sun, 3rd-Jul-2011, 10:00 AM

rofl thread is rofl

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clock · Sun, 3rd-Jul-2011, 4:56 PM

Meany, please refer to the post below, watch the replay yourself and then explain why you would hover your camera over the minimap without performing any attack moves etc on that point, specifically when both exact points had enemy units/buildings under them.

I watched the replay then alt tabbing back to zerggirls post and its all right on the money, and in your post there is not explanation for any of this.

I think if you can explain this then it will put everyones mind at rest and prove your innocence.

I just watched the replay and i cant see why you randomly put ur screen here man. and everytime if i switched it to everyones view there was always something of his under the fog.

edit: im sure we can all admit even if we dont hack and never will, sometimes curiosity makes you want to type it in google and just try it for one game

maybe this is a similar screnario as there is alot of cred here for meany from other players, but at the same time theres some really too many unexplainable things in the replay i think

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Originally Posted by ZergGirl

5:38 randomly looks in your base.

11:23, fiddles around with his units then moves them into a nice position to defend the attack he can't see coming. (didn't have siege though lol)

13:35 prepares to move into your base from the front, your siege line sets up - he runs a different way. (You will see the wiggle)

at 14:17 he looks at your marine at the 12 o clock position then your command centre at the top left.

18:50 The blind drop counter is suss. Of course you will move your marines and medivacs back out of tank fire :P

and watching MeaNy PoV he didn't see the scv, it was on the minimap though.

Btw the hack people use (that isn't detectable) is basically just an overlay. It shows what you are making, where you are making it and has little squares on your minimap representing certain units and buildings. Requires a nice little rewrite on blizzards part for it to be picked up by warden (QQ).

I talk to a few SPR members and they are all legit, MeaNy more than likely is too

Nothing really screams 100% maphacking :3
Alot of what he did could just be from playing TvT on that map and expects xxxx.

**BaKaiNu** · Sun, 3rd-Jul-2011, 7:13 PM

You know what. I'm tired of giving warning and infractions to almost every single post in this thread. Closed.

**BaKaiNu** · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 12:17 AM

I reopened the thread for VALID discussion out of several request and curiousity. Any trolling or flaming the thread starter will result in infraction. Like immediate, no debatable infraction. So keep it clean.

V_enDetta · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 12:28 AM

I've watched the replay, and I have to add that ZergGirl has raised some very valid points there.

I feel that the main point is
"at 14:17 he looks at your marine at the 12 o clock position then your command centre at the top left."

If your game sense tells you there is an expansion at the top left, im pretty sure u dont zoom to that area on the minimap to take a glance and more suspiciously zoom right to a single marine standing at the 12 o clock position to see what unit that is without actually having vision of it.

I hope you'll explain yourself on the other points raised as well.

ProAnnn · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 1:18 AM

I think you shouldnt judge one person on whether he is maphacking based on 1 game and through a few suspicious actions. Need more replays/ games to really judge.

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**Dox** · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 6:08 AM

The replay is fairly incriminating.

**Nemo** · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 8:15 AM

THIS IS CHEATING !
Here is the incredible sequence from Cosmos stream just after their game, Cosmos checked the replay and here is the most incriminating part with the comments :
http://www.justin.tv/nemoulysses/b/289420237
And a more detailed action with MeaNySPR chasing an invisible enemy Medivac:
http://www.justin.tv/nemoulysses/b/289421746

Full replay of the stream of Cosmos that day : http://www.justin.tv/becosmos/b/289268258

They played another game just after.

That was at the beginning just another random cheater on the Internet. Sad but no reason to waste time on the subject. I guess there are other Masters that cheat.

What drives me mad is the reaction of his friends. How the hell can you defend that ???

I took the time to make the highlights and I will spend even more time getting this case the publicity it deserves ...

Now MeaNySPR (meany here) had the chance to explain (look first page) and his denial was absolutely pathetic, The hidden CC ? "I like to send one or two stimed marines". 1 or 2 or ... 16 ?? And if it had been a PF ? The invisible Medivac ? "Oh I forgot to defend against drops" How conveeeeenient you caught them at the perfect time.

MeanNy, you choose to deny and let your friends make fools of themselves, you add to the shame of cheating the shame of letting your friends expose themselves.

You've been caught, there is no way you can get out of this without admitting cheating and apologising to Cosmos, community and your friends you fooled. There is no forgiveness without remorse.

I let you 24 hours before making it "worldwide". You will have no friends on other places where it will be found soon to defend you blindly as they did here. ... I won't if you admit and apologise.

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Satu · Mon, 4th-Jul-2011, 9:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nemo

THIS IS CHEATING !
Here is the incredible sequence from Cosmos stream just after their game, Cosmos checked the replay and here is the most incriminating part with the comments :
http://www.justin.tv/nemoulysses/b/289420237
And a more detailed action with MeaNySPR chasing an invisible enemy Medivac:
http://www.justin.tv/nemoulysses/b/289421746

Full replay of the stream of Cosmos that day : http://www.justin.tv/becosmos/b/289268258

They played another game just after.

That was at the beginning just another random cheater on the Internet. Sad but no reason to waste time on the subject. I guess there are other Masters that cheat.

What drives me mad is the reaction of his friends. How the hell can you defend that ???

I took the time to make the highlights and I will spend even more time getting this case the publicity it deserves ...

Now MeaNySPR (meany here) had the chance to explain (look first page) and his denial was absolutely pathetic, The hidden CC ? "I like to send one or two stimed marines". 1 or 2 or ... 16 ?? And if it had been a PF ? The invisible Medivac ? "Oh I forgot to defend against drops" How conveeeeenient you caught them at the perfect time.

MeanNy, you choose to deny and let your friends make fools of themselves, you add to the shame of cheating the shame of letting your friends expose themselves.

You've been caught, there is no way you can get out of this without admitting cheating and apologising to Cosmos, community and your friends you fooled. There is no forgiveness without remorse.

I let you 24 hours before making it "worldwide". You will have no friends on other places where it will be found soon to defend you blindly as they did here. ... I won't if you admit and apologise.

Im confused, what happens after 24 hours, in which he doesn't admit hes a cheater?

Let me guess, you will be very, very sad?

As far as I and various others know, we've played legitimate games vs MeaNy, with nothing really hacker worthy. Thats why we're defending him. Hes not just some random person who has never contributed to the community and hacks for the lulz, hes a guy who people actually know. Hell, hes in a clan as well.

Also, thanks for the videos, its cool to see that cosmos saw just two small possibilities for hacking and then immediately claims MeaNy is a hacker.