[cruxis]

Also, with those 2 kills i think it takes Zerg to 5 votes? Or do their votes still count after their dead?

[Benji]

Originally Posted by pikk0n

Deaths = biggest noob for revealing he's the vigi... free win for the prof.... Sigh.....

By the way, does this mean that votes for deaths will need to be switched?

They can revote if they'd like, however if they don't see this thread in the next hour they won't be punished for missing the day vote.

[Satu]

Guys, Like I was saying before, there is no reason to vote me.

I change my vote to pokerface

My life is in your hands, guys... Please, understand that deathsfang has been an idiot this game, enough to get himself killed already, so listening to him and getting me killed should be seen as completely illogical.

[ToRDeathsFang]

Nobody decided to change their votes from me, i wouldn't have killed. And i never counted on the professional. But whatever.

[Satu]

Whether or not people were following deathsfang like sheep, its still illogical. Meh, I've already explained all of this. Two vigilantes just died, if there is any hope in the town succeeding, you guys will just have to trust me. Its all down to trust now, do you believe in working as a pack, with the mafia to get yourselves killed, or working with me?

[LennX]

Actually Zergtastic you were part of the blame too. You forced deaths into killing a random person to prove that he is the vigilante and thus giving the professional a free win?

I change my vote from Dandelion to Zergtastic. i think Zergtastic is the professional anyway. The professional can choose to screw anyone over. Remember that when you vote.


VOTE ZERGTASTIC

[Satu]

Originally Posted by LennX

Actually Zergtastic you were part of the blame too. You forced deaths into killing a random person to prove that he is the vigilante and thus giving the professional a free win?

I change my vote from Dandelion to Zergtastic. i think Zergtastic is the professional anyway. The professional can choose to screw anyone over. Remember that when you vote.


VOTE ZERGTASTIC

I didn't force deaths into doing anything, I simply was saving myself. Also, ANYONE could be the professional, what just happened doesn't change anything for my position. Like I was saying before, if you vote me, you have no reason to other than jumping on the bandwagon or being mafia. So you are likely to be lynched next if you're voting for me. Im surprised no one has changed their vote off this premise yet.

[Satu]

Ok, I'll admit it. Im the professional. I killed deathsfang. I went ahead to survive to screw with you guys. But I have a proposal. Tonight, the doctor heals me, and I will kill a mafia member. Change your vote and tell me who you guys think the mafia members are. I'll kill the most likely person to be mafia. Or you can suggest something different.

Change your votes now, or I die and you lose your last chance.

[LennX]

Why should we trust you? You are the professional a neutral role. A mafia or citizen win is fine either way for you.

[Satu]

Originally Posted by LennX

Why should we trust you? You are the professional a neutral role. A mafia or citizen win is fine either way for you.

Are you blind? Both vigilantes just got killed, you guys have no choice left if you want to win.

I will leave it as that, kill me and lose, or don't kill me and MAYBE win. Your choice.

[pikk0n]

Well, that's an interesting proposal, zergtastic. From your words, we can be sure that you're not the joker so we wouldn't be giving out 2 free wins in one round. However, keeping you alive.... If you kill the doctor or the citizen by accident, the town will be in a worse off condition. As of now, we have the arsonist, the mafia and the prof who can still kill people. That's a potential of 3 deaths in one night and if the kills are all townfolks, the mafia kinda auto wins.... I'll have to check if the arsonist is with the mafia though. Regardless, reducing the kills to 2 a night assuming you are a professional can assist the town to a certain degree seeing that the doctor has less chance of getting killed.

Having said that, we're assuming that you really are the professional and that the professional isn't someone who isn't posting because he has some other plans of his own for this game. We might be allowing a mafia/arsonist live by letting you go thanks to the professional.

[crAzerk]

EDIT: OOps like about 5 posts were made while I was typing this. Hang on... let me read them

+ [Spoilered text was typed before Zergtastic stepped forward and claims to be Professional] +

My vote at this point is irrelevant, switching to Zerg does nothing (I don't really think he's Mafia but I guess we'll find out) and switching to someone else to force a tie does nothing either (since as I've already explained last game you can't really deduce anything from a tie even though noone believed/understood me (unless it's double mafia in a tie))
So I'll stick to my RNG vote and make a better vote next round (If i'm still alive, that is)

I'll be doing the same analysis I did last game after the day votes have concluded, too much activity going on atm, have to let the dust settle. Will post it immediately when day ends, so that I get it out in case Mafia decides to kill me. :/

That said, would it be beneficial for us (Citizens) if the Survivor announced his role? It helps to eliminate one potential mafia, and coming out doesn't give mafia any reason to snipe him either since he is technically low priority.

I'll have to check if the arsonist is with the mafia though.

No the arsonist is a neutral role, his aim is just to kill everyone. So he is against the Citizens AND mafia.

Regardless, reducing the kills to 2 a night assuming you are a professional can assist the town to a certain degree seeing that the doctor has less chance of getting killed.

It is a double-edged sword, really. One way to look at it is that it will reduce the chance of hitting the Doctor, Informant, etc. Another way of looking at it is that it has a higher chance of hitting the Mafia, after which we can start analysing vote trends based on who the Mafia is.

[ToRDeathsFang]

Zergtastic outsmarted me. DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AND GO TO HELL

[Satu]

Originally Posted by pikk0n

Well, that's an interesting proposal, zergtastic. From your words, we can be sure that you're not the joker so we wouldn't be giving out 2 free wins in one round. However, keeping you alive.... If you kill the doctor or the citizen by accident, the town will be in a worse off condition. As of now, we have the arsonist, the mafia and the prof who can still kill people. That's a potential of 3 deaths in one night and if the kills are all townfolks, the mafia kinda auto wins.... I'll have to check if the arsonist is with the mafia though. Regardless, reducing the kills to 2 a night assuming you are a professional can assist the town to a certain degree seeing that the doctor has less chance of getting killed.

Having said that, we're assuming that you really are the professional and that the professional isn't someone who isn't posting because he has some other plans of his own for this game. We might be allowing a mafia/arsonist live by letting you go thanks to the professional.

I made deathsfang prove hes the vigilante, so I could kill him. That should be proof enough that Im the professional. Thus, I don't need to be killed, because there is no way Im mafia if Im the professional.

Anyway, if you guys don't want to change your votes soon, I could just go the other way and kill someone random, such as a citizen before I get killed. Its in your best interest to let me live, Im going to random kill if votes don't change soon.

[EveRorschach]

Sounds good to me, switch vote to Crazerk.



EDIT: Making it easier for Benji, I originally voted for Zergtastic. Thanks!

[crAzerk]

Actually Zerg, you already won the game, so I don't see why you would want to 'rage-kill' and possibly cause people to want to random lynch you in future games :/ Don't do it Zerg! Or at least make your 'random' hit a calculated one based on what has been said in the past few pages and try to kill a Mafia for us? :/

Anyway, I will switch vote to pokerface , for some minor protection for myself since Rorsh has switched to me.

my original vote was jackwong

[Satu]

In the interest of keeping this thread high on the forums as well as my personal interests, I just want to address the possibility of mafia killing me this night. If they do, thats a kill that could have occurred to a town member, which means that I have helped the town survive longer. On top of that, the doctor will probably be healing me tonight. There should be no reason for me to be killed tonight, even if you try.

Originally Posted by crAzerk

Actually Zerg, you already won the game, so I don't see why you would want to 'rage-kill' and possibly cause people to want to random lynch you in future games :/ Don't do it Zerg! Or at least make your 'random' hit a calculated one based on what has been said in the past few pages and try to kill a Mafia for us? :/

Im not going to "rage-kill", Im going to sit back for a while until someone gives a good case as to who the mafia members are. Until then, I can be a meat shield for kills from the mafia, even if it only takes one night to kill me, it still benefits the town.

Also, if Im going to compete in future games, its worth being unpredictable. I think just stopping playing due to winning already causes me to be a bit predictable in future games, by just conforming to what it seems the role requires. I want to always be a talkative player and keep my interest in surviving for long games.

UNLESS:

Just so you guys remember, someone else needs to change their vote, or I will ACTUALLY do a random kill. I don't want to do that. You guys voting for me, you are the ones who could be killed.

3. pikk0n - Voted for Zergtastic
8. pokerface - Voted for Zergtastic
12. BakaInu - Voted for Zergtastic
13. jackwong - Voted for Zergtastic
20. SONATA - Voted for Zergtastic

I'll use a randomizer and kill someone, before the day ends. Btw, Benji, if you're keeping up with this, how much time left?

[jackwong]

I'll change my vote to crazerk

[crAzerk]

Actually, I'm looking through Zerg's previous posts and I don't see how he has convinced Deathsfang to step forward and prove himself. His posts merely reasoned as to why he wasn't Mafia, and it was Deathsfang's own bad judgement that led him do what he did.

It seems very likely that Zerg could be mafia or survivor (or arsonist), and is taking this opportunity to merely pretend to be Professional, and save his own ass. Look how he has managed to sway you already with his scare tactics.

Stop switching your votes to me!

[Benji]

Zergtastic has been killed by the Citizens. He was the Professional.

1. nard - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens (Citizen)
2. craZerk - Voted for pokerface
3. pikk0n - Voted for Zergtastic
4. LennX - Voted for Zergtastic
5. DeathsFang - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Professional (Vigilante)
6. cruxis - Voted for pokerface
7. Skrawl - Voted for tgun
8. pokerface - Voted for Zergtastic
9. Rorschach - Voted for Crazerk
10. HDPhoenix - Voted for Sonata
11. Next_rim - Voted for Deathsfang
12. BakaInu - Voted for Zergtastic
13. jackwong - Voted for Crazerk
14. tgun - Voted for pokerface
15. Paroxysm - Voted for Crazerk
16. Zanderax - Voted for Bakainu
17. Zergtastic - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens (Professional) *WINNER*
18. mustapusta - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Vigilante (Vigilante)
19. Dandelion
20. SONATA - Voted for Zergtastic
21. Meatex - Voted for Deathsfang
22. Screwby - Voted for Deathsfang

5 Votes for Zergtastic
4 Votes for Crazerk
4 Votes for pokerface
1 Vote for jackwong
1 Vote for Bakainu
1 Vote for SONATA
1 Vote for Tgun

It is now Nighttime, players have 24 hours to submit their nighttime votes and such.

Dandelion did not vote, and if he misses the next one he will be killed