If you hold this when I'm actually in Singapore, I should be involved in the casting. As I am not technically from SEA, nobody can be more impartial (or collectively disdainful) than me.
Wow this sounds like an awesome concept, that thanks to some hard work form some individuals succeeded even with out the support of sc2sea forum base. Looking forward to following skilled players of the sea region fight for the glory of there nation.
1v1 Bo3, is likely that better player win.
I reckon it should be Bo1 with an acematch at the end, just like BW Proleague.
It makes it more interesting and results will be more unpredictable.
Think of it this way, its team game, team should be counted as ONE and each team plays Bo5 each other so 4 1v1 bo1s with ace match with pre determined maps/times by admins.
And we alrdy got SEACL for winners league style so yeaaaaa.
but bo3 is fine too^.^ just thought bo1 would make games more interesting.
1v1 Bo3, is likely that better player win.
I reckon it should be Bo1 with an acematch at the end, just like BW Proleague.
Why does it not surprise me that you want a format that means the better player is less likely to win.
Jokes aside, you have to consider that the sponsors want the event to run longer and get more exposure, a Bo1 format would be a little bit underwhelming for the prizemoney they are putting up for us.
BTW do any of the Chinese players speak English? Really strong lineup, as I predicted :P
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I am sure one guest caster could be arranged, if we brief them on player histories - a team like Aus has a lot of info available on liquipedia about the team history and players!
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I am sure one guest caster could be arranged, if we brief them on player histories - a team like Aus has a lot of info available on liquipedia about the team history and players!
I favour BW standard proleague format too. But instead of 5xBo1 have 7xBo1 (proleague finals format).
Bo1 format favours preparation which makes for interesting builds and is more exciting than a Bo3 format (seeing someone get roflstomped by Glade/Sen twice in a row is not exciting).
But having up to 6 (even 7) different players play each week also rewards a deep team like Aus/China to counteract the 'cheese' effect. Not only that but as an audience we get exposed to more different players on SEA (always a good thing) and the players themselves will more likely get a game each week. The weaker players on the team will get more than 1 token match against the cellerdwellers.
Also with Bo3 a match could potentially drag on for 15 games and will usually average around 10 games. I don't have that kind of attention span and would only tune in for NZ games in that format.
With 7xBo1 you always have between 4 and 7 games (instead of 6-15) making scheduling more reliable for casters, players and viewers.
I hope the organisers and sponsors seriously consider this league format. It is better for viewers, casters and (usually) the players also.
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I agree the BW format is nice and I'd prefer to see more bo1s just to show off more players, but the concern I have is the more sets you have (bo7 instead of bo5) means the more people have to be on standby at a given time if you want to cast live. If you're casting replays (nobody wants to cast replays) it's moot.
I favour BW standard proleague format too. But instead of 5xBo1 have 7xBo1 (proleague finals format).
Bo1 format favours preparation which makes for interesting builds and is more exciting than a Bo3 format (seeing someone get roflstomped by Glade/Sen twice in a row is not exciting).
But having up to 6 (even 7) different players play each week also rewards a deep team like Aus/China to counteract the 'cheese' effect. Not only that but as an audience we get exposed to more different players on SEA (always a good thing) and the players themselves will more likely get a game each week. The weaker players on the team will get more than 1 token match against the cellerdwellers.
Also with Bo3 a match could potentially drag on for 15 games and will usually average around 10 games. I don't have that kind of attention span and would only tune in for NZ games in that format.
With 7xBo1 you always have between 4 and 7 games (instead of 6-15) making scheduling more reliable for casters, players and viewers.
I hope the organisers and sponsors seriously consider this league format. It is better for viewers, casters and (usually) the players also.
If no one wants to see GLaDe roflstomp someone 2-0 and then have 3-4 other competitive matches then they certainly won't want to see GLaDe roflstomp someone 1-0 and then have another 2 matches where the opponents are completely outclassed because the country is already lacking for depth even with just 5 competitiors.
I think Bo3 coutneracts the 'cheese' effect enough. Cheese is exciting in a bo3 format as the underdog takes a game off the big names. When it's Bo1 you are just left feeling cheated as your ace player only gets 1 game and they get cheesed and it would get repetitive. Bo1 will probably also lower the quality of the games across the board.
Bo3s are also easier to schedule. Instead of having 7 team members waiting around for 2-3 hours you can say OK each Bo3 is going to be 30-60mins or so depending on the matchup and downtime between picking maps so if a player plays last you can let them know they can turn up a little later if necessary.
I think having more players also means walkovers are more likely and nothing takes the buzz out of a team league like walkovers.
Regarding viewers, it can be shown that they grow over time. The number of viewers who will be from New Zealand or whatever country is participating is going to be quite a low percentage of the total viewers for the event. Sure the two dozen NZ viewers might only watch the NZ games but the 1000+ internationals will want to stay for the whole thing and reducing the number of games will mean viewers probably won't climb over a couple hundred at most.
If you want to see more players compete or have some short and sweet matches, organise a B-team competition to run parallel to the main event, with it's own casters and teams in a smaller, bo1 format just to increase participation and as a fan service to the SC2SEA community members who miss out.
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Too bad u guys wont let me play, I was china slayer in wc3!
Organise a Norway clan war with some SEA nations as an opener to this event! We all have NA access and the delay from SEA-->NA and EU-->NA should mean it's a very fair/neutral server for such a NW :P
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You could always persuade Wolf to do it? ^^
He is busy enough as it is! There are lots of NA based casters who would love to feature in one or more casts though - perhaps for the finals?
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Last edited by deL; Mon, 20th-Jun-2011 at 6:48 PM.
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