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Unread Thu, 16th-Jun-2011, 7:03 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 21
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Updated prize pool!

Looks like Jump has found two amazing sponsors (which i can't announce yet till everything is confirmed)

Also to deL, yes there will be a nation wars sub-form soon, along with a news post when everything is confirmed. As for the citizen issue, perhaps non-citizens can only represent the country they are living in if they have lived in it for over 5 years. Does that sound fair enough? Honestly, the only person i see the rule affecting who would make the national team is TargA for Australia.

All the other "foreigners" in AU/NZ schools like mafia/yoon/soft/jaz have been living there for a very long time already so that is not an issue.
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Unread Thu, 16th-Jun-2011, 7:27 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: GGMuse  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 199 # 22
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1v1 bo3 format = bad :<
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Unread Thu, 16th-Jun-2011, 7:39 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 23
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1v1 bo3 format = bad :<
For Singapore.
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Unread Thu, 16th-Jun-2011, 8:29 PM BnetId: NA = ageny.699  Race: Location: The Other Side Of The Globe  Total Posts Made: 82 # 24
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1v1 bo3 format = bad :<
What's wrong with it?

I think its actually the best for these kinds of stuff.
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Unread Thu, 16th-Jun-2011, 9:44 PM BnetId: Canx.951  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 36 # 25
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Man season 1 was so awesome, can't wait for season 2!
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Unread Thu, 16th-Jun-2011, 11:55 PM BnetId: frayFourby.534  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 384 # 26
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NICE i cant wait!

epic prize pool too haha
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 12:14 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 336 # 27
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i can forge an aus passport if its needed

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Why would you need to do that you're Aussie remember >_> Your name is Bruce not Kristoffer
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 9:26 AM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 28
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For Singapore.
We've each got more than one all-in, don't worry.
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 10:07 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 29
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We've each got more than one all-in, don't worry.
Sorry you can't say "we". You fail Timber's 3 generation nationality check.
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 10:12 AM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 30
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Sorry you can't say "we". You fail Timber's 3 generation nationality check.
I have something like 6 different things if you go back that far, that's not fair.
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 11:36 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: GGMuse  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 199 # 31
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honestly, all trolling aside, a bo3 1v1 format lacks deeply in terms of viewership retention & excitement level as well as teamwork when compared to the GSTL all-kill format.

the gstl format also allows for cleaner organization, all games to be played at a particular time instead of 'hey muse you're playing wild just pm him anytime this week k'.

i hope the organizers will reconsider!
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 11:39 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 32
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honestly, all trolling aside, a bo3 1v1 format lacks deeply in terms of viewership retention & excitement level as well as teamwork when compared to the GSTL all-kill format.

the gstl format also allows for cleaner organization, all games to be played at a particular time instead of 'hey muse you're playing wild just pm him anytime this week k'.

i hope the organizers will reconsider!
Also benefits teams that have a single great player (Australia/Glade) that can get 2-3 kills in a Bo7 over teams that have great depth of skill (Australia) that have many top players that can all contribute.

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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 11:50 AM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 33
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Both styles have pros/cons.

GSTL format requires less team depth, allowing one-man teams to win games. It favors 'general skill' more since you can't prepare for specific maps as much, and usually provides more excitement and tension. You have to play the entire series at once, though, which can be troublesome.

Standard formats usually create higher-quality games because maps and matchups can be specifically prepared for, but there's less tension because the set is more isolated. Scheduling is easier, of course. Teams with greater depth are rewarded for obvious reasons, and that also means more different players are often sent out.

Both formats allow for a lot of participation from the manager, either for selecting someone to take out the oppositing winner (GSTL), or setting players to map selections (the bo3s should absolutely have varying map pools) to gain edges, or catch who they expect the other team to send out there.

In summary, I present an irrelevant piece of information. People like watching GSTL format more, but the vast majority of Starcraft teamleagues are played as individual sets from a lineup.
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 11:57 AM BnetId: NA = ageny.699  Race: Location: The Other Side Of The Globe  Total Posts Made: 82 # 34
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i agree with benji.
a bo3 1v1 format will even out the teams more or at least give 1 Team a bo3 win which actually feels better than getting one kill.
also, both teams get to put in most if not all of the players that are scheduled to play that day.

and i don't think the organizers will allow matches to be settled in an earlier date coz matches will be streamed.
unless i guess if both teams agree to it.

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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 12:20 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 35
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With GSTL "all-kill" format players might show up and wait around for a couple of hours and then find out they don't get a game. Also if mOOnGLaDe all-kills every team he is gonna be pissed when he only gets 10% of the prize like everyone else, but everyone else is gonna be pissed if GLaDe gets most of the prize because they still turned up on time and waited around for a game.

I think this format is fine, teams with depth and teams with just 1-2 ace players have good chances. For people who think there's less 'team spirit' you're wrong as this is a tried and tested team league format for many differemt games and the team will get behind it just as much as any other format.

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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 2:57 PM BnetId: shinyA  Race: Clan: xSix  Location: USA / Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 80 # 36
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I like the all-kill format more. You are saying that moonglade will just all-kill everyone, but if a team who knows they have to play AUS and moonglade is the best player then they should prepare for him and have a plan to take him out. If they can't then they shouldn't win the CW anyways imo.

Also, it's a lot more fun to watch an all-kill tournament. Seeing more of a nations strongest player is just more exciting.and it also gives people who aren't so known to go in and beat someone like moonglade. Just like the GSTL when you see someone who isn't even qualified for GSL come in and beat top names they automatically get fans and get known.

Plus, as someone who's competed in countless different types of clan war formats over the years, all kill is my favorite. Even if I don't get to play, and the same for the people on my team when we get an all kill, it's still awesome. I don't think I've ever heard anyone get angry because we're winning a cw. you're always going to be rooting for your teammate, or in this case countryman! to win and when he does it gives you a sense of pride, definitely not anger or jealousy :P

Just my input !~
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 3:17 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 37
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I like the all-kill format more. You are saying that moonglade will just all-kill everyone, but if a team who knows they have to play AUS and moonglade is the best player then they should prepare for him and have a plan to take him out. If they can't then they shouldn't win the CW anyways imo.
And then you prepare hard for Glade, and end up losing 0-4 to Azz/YYJ/deth/Edge/Light/iaguz/PiG. This format allows you to prepare whoever is playing Glade however you like, but also gives the other 4 players opponants they also need to prepare for. Also, its Bo3. Bo3 is better Than Bo1.

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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 3:51 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 38
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Keep in mind with all-kill we run into a similar problem with Taiwan and China. xiaOt or SEn are just going to all-kill every non-Australia team and probably all-kill Aus too. That will really kill the feeling of 'SEA nationwar league'.
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 4:09 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAEdgE.100  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 956 # 39
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Should run each for a half a season.
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Unread Fri, 17th-Jun-2011, 4:32 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 40
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I think New Zealand will be the dark horse this tournament. With Kowi, JazBas and Soft their lineup could easily take out any of the favourites.
If they survive the earthquakes till game day

OH NO I DIDN'T


disclaimer: My apologies if anyone of you were actually heavily affected by the earthquakes

if you were only slightly affected however, harden the **** up
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