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cruxis · Thu, 26th-May-2011, 9:20 PM

So, what arguments do we have for voting each of these players? I can't see any definitive reasons for these votes.

I have seen Zergtastic in the chat on numerous occaions, but he doesn't really post in here. Trying to fly under the radar maybe? Well, it's good enough reason for a 3rd vote.

Vote Zergtastic

Dandelion · Thu, 26th-May-2011, 9:32 PM

I like how ppl are voting for other due to them not posting, what sorta things do you want us to say this game gives no insight as to who could be Mafia it's always just gonna be a random lynch now that the cop is dead. I haven't been active cos I got a new game & sorta went 30 hrs of playing it then just slept for ages, my bad. didn't know i'll get taged for it D:

This is a Mafia win the Vig can only kill off 2 people per game & it's very unlikely they will hit mafia both times, even if they did it won't help much there will still be 3 left.

also who ever voted for Sonata...on day one Santi voted for Sonata first, so when Sonata voted for Santi I just took it as a play vote, smart Mafia wouldn't go after someone that voted for one of there members.

VOTE Yongming if this is wrong the vig has two chouses the next night. Although I've got a feeling all these votes are lead by Mafia.
Have we gotten a real reason as to why you keep voting the same person.

Benji · Thu, 26th-May-2011, 9:51 PM

Votes so far

1. DeathsFang - Voted for Zergtastic
2. Dandelion - Voted for Yongming
3. mustapusta - Voted for Nard
4. yongming - Voted for Sonata
5. PoisoN - Voted for Yongming
6. Paroxysm - *DEAD* Killed by the Rossellini Family (Citizen)
7. Meatex - Voted for Zergtastic
8. Santi - *DEAD* Killed by the Tortellini Family (Informat)
9. Next_rim - Voted for Sonata
10. SONATA - Voted for Yongming
11. cruxis - Voted for Zergtastic
12. Zergtastic
13. Nofan
14. nard - Votes for mustapusta
15. pokerface - *DEAD* Killed by the Citizens (Citizen)
16. eXcLusiVe - Voted for Poison
17. Zanderax
18. LennX - Voted for Dandelion

3 Votes for Yongming
3 Votes for Zergtastic
2 Votes for Sonata
1 Vote for Mustapusta
1 Vote for Dandelion
1 Vote for Nard
1 Vote for Poison

3 More votes left!

nard · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 2:02 AM

hmm i had no thought process with my votes whatsoever... but some of us has put in some insight on their thought processes and that got me thinking. not gonna change my vote for now as the person i voted for isnt seemingly in danger of getting voted out.

it is still early days tho. day 1's killing of pokerface sorta rendered any possible insight useless as we all jumped on the bandwagon... me included. looking forward to the next daytime where voting patterns will seem more obvious

cruxis · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 2:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandelion

Have we gotten a real reason as to why you keep voting the same person.

Zerg was also one of the players to put a vote on Pokerface. Lack of posting, plus a vote in getting a citizen lynched is 2 possible reasons so far.

nard · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 2:54 AM

zergtastic's vote for pokerface came at a time when the result was already inevitable. doesnt mean that it isnt suspicious. but any analysis at this point would probably be overanalysis.

edit: lack of posting would also probably mean a lack of interest in the game. who knows

ToRDeathsFang · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 2:36 PM

This will basically tip the mafia off but wouldn't smart mafia all vote for the same person so they can get a free citizen lynch + the kill at night.

This is my thought process because why would mafia all vote for different people? That's dumb. I think seven people voted for pokerface, and i'm saying five of them are mafia. *Epic music*

I know i voted for Pokerface as well but that was before i figured out the above. If you want to jump on top of me whatever but think about what i just said. It makes perfect sense.

cruxis · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 3:19 PM

Pokerface had 10 votes. With there being only 5 mafia players, that means there would have been a maximum of 5 votes from the Mafia towards him. Which gives us roughly 50/50 chance of picking someone who is Mafia based purely on votes towards Pokerface.

nard · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 3:44 PM

Smart mafia won't vote the same guy in round1.

Zanderax · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 4:07 PM

Nard - funny name - Nard. Ill pick him.

Satu · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 4:41 PM

I know im not mafia, I didnt post much and still havent been posting much because I simply dont go in this thread often enough. My vote against pokerface was one of the last votes and I was simply jumping on the bandwagon. I dont see how that makes me mafia and causes me to have so many votes, so my conclusion is that the people voting for me are mostly mafia. So I'll vote for poison.

I've got pretty good reasoning, if you're a citizen, it wouldn't be a bad idea to follow the same train of thought.

nard · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 4:51 PM

Hmm that puts me dangerously close to the top. If I get tied with a mafia at the top gg to me

ToRDeathsFang · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 4:56 PM

Zergtastic you've manipulated me on several occasions on sc2 Mafia =P although your reasoning is good i'll ignore it

**yongming** · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 4:57 PM

@nard i'm in a more precarious position than you.

Benji · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 5:18 PM

Votes so far

1. DeathsFang - Voted for Zergtastic
2. Dandelion - Voted for Yongming
3. mustapusta - Voted for Nard
4. yongming - Voted for Sonata
5. PoisoN - Voted for Yongming
6. Paroxysm - *DEAD* Killed by the Rossellini Family (Citizen)
7. Meatex - Voted for Zergtastic
8. Santi - *DEAD* Killed by the Tortellini Family (Informat)
9. Next_rim - Voted for Sonata
10. SONATA - Voted for Yongming
11. cruxis - Voted for Zergtastic
12. Zergtastic- Voted for Poison
13. Nofan
14. nard - Votes for mustapusta
15. pokerface - *DEAD* Killed by the Citizens (Citizen)
16. eXcLusiVe - Voted for Poison
17. Zanderax - Voted for Nard
18. LennX - Voted for Dandelion

3 Votes for Yongming
3 Votes for Zergtastic
2 Votes for Sonata
2 Votes for Nard
2 Votes for Poison
1 Vote for Mustapusta
1 Vote for Dandelion

Nofan has the last remaining vote, Waiting for him, or 4 hours to pass. Last chance to change your votes to avoid a deadlock, remember deadlocks favor Mafia significantly more than they favor Citizens.

cruxis · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 5:25 PM

That just leaves Nofan to vote, with Zerg and Yong being tied for most votes. Zerg has sorta put up a defence, so Yong, what's your defence?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zergtastic

I know im not mafia, I didnt post much and still havent been posting much because I simply dont go in this thread often enough. My vote against pokerface was one of the last votes and I was simply jumping on the bandwagon. I dont see how that makes me mafia and causes me to have so many votes, so my conclusion is that the people voting for me are mostly mafia. So I'll vote for poison.

I've got pretty good reasoning, if you're a citizen, it wouldn't be a bad idea to follow the same train of thought.

You know what role you are, but we don't. Simply saying "I know I'm not Mafia" isn't a good enough reason, hell, Mafia would say exactly the same thing if questioned.

So why are you avoiding the thread? The amount of time you're online, I would guess it would only take you a couple of minutes to read all the new posts, rather then just not come in and have to go through a heap of them.

Sure, the voting of Pokerface was mostly random and bandwagoning, but you can't deny the fact that Mafia would have voted for him, and we're looking for any reasons whatsoever for the Mafia to slip up.

nard · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 5:34 PM

Weird thing is yongming and zergtastic could change their vote to save their asses. This is really an interesting development

**yongming** · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 5:37 PM

i don't really have a defence. i mean i can understand why poison and sonata voted me. because i voted for them day 1 and day 2 respectively. but i don't understand dandelion's reasoning enough for me to formulate a counterargument. as for my vote i already justified it by saying sonata had a hand in getting santi killed. so apart from randomly lynching another person or going with the bandwagon hoping to strike lucky, sonata is the obvious choice. i doubt putting a defence does anything to change votes. so yea. lol.

Benji · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 5:38 PM

On a complete side note, its next to impossible to figure out who is mafia at this point of the game, you kinda need a kill, or some guaranteed information to start comparing votes. You don't have this information yet. Mafia players are as smart as all of you are, perhaps they are even 1 step ahead.

Also, incase it isn't clear, there are 2 families of Mafia (one 3 large and one 2 large) that CANNOT communicate or work together, hell they don't even know who is in the other family and are playing against them as well as against the citizens.

**yongming** · Fri, 27th-May-2011, 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nard

Weird thing is yongming and zergtastic could change their vote to save their asses. This is really an interesting development

zergtastic can change his vote to me to have my vote count to 4. and i can counter by changing my vote to him to 4 as well in order to save myself.

but if we change our vote to those with 2 votes now bringing up to 3 votes. we could have a 3 or 4-way tie.

very interesting indeed.