[JaYbOc]

Sydney Collegiate Starcraft
(more to be added to roster)

- JaYbOc
- MaruMarine
- KayZ
- Vivid
- Elliott

We'd like to be tier two, but if numbers are an issue then throw us in with tier 1

oops edit: http://www.nationalesl.com/au/team/8036538/

Quick Comments

VB_Blake:

+ bandit just fyi Byrnsy ;)

[SLCN.Petrify]

Silicon Sports and SYF are allying together for this for some sick #Domination. The new team lineup for this will be

ESL Team Page: http://www.nationalesl.com/au/team/7983290/

Manager: Petrify ( mark.fittipaldi), rezyn8 ( rezyn8) or Troy (duxxi3)

SLCN.Petrify
SLCN.Kez
SLCN.StoicWilly
SLCN.Pezz
SLCN.ARze
SYF.PhoenixA
SYF.Fighto
SYF.Hitman

Quick Comments

	rezyn8:	#SLCN #SYF #FIGHTING
	SLCN.ARze:	SYF FIGHTING!
	SLCN.Wally:	I spy with my little eye, something beginning with Terran
	syfPhoenix:	What is terran? lol

[ToRSpartaz]

Sorry for the late submissions (been flat out the past few weeks ><), there are still a few more of and guys signing up on the ESL page.

ToR Team A: http://www.nationalesl.com/au/team/8045488/

Manager: Spartaz "torspartaz" Captain: Pox "anthonycarapetis"

- ToR.DanO
- // ToR.Pox
- ToR.XzaM
- ToR.Chobosniper
- ToR.Redemption
- ToR.Fur
- ToR.Stallion
- ToR.Boywonder (Spook)

Team ToR - TCP: http://www.nationalesl.com/au/team/8045489/

Manager: Spartaz ( torspartaz)/Lemminks ( newbienator) Captain: Erasmus ( brendan_cook)

- ToR.Spartaz
- TCP.Lemminks
- ToR.Djvillian
- ToR.Erasmus
- ToR.Elusory
- ToR.Loach
- ToR.Badman
- TCP.DominatoR

Quick Comments

	ToRSpookToR:	TOSSPOX
	ToRRedemption:	ZERGPOX
	asdfSchnitzel:	TERRANPOX
	Matt93:	Boywonder...chuckle.

[LordByrnsy]

Last day for signups everyone!! Make sure to get your teams in today!! Or you will miss out!

[ToR.Arnor]

Avant will be merging with fray to join a super team frAvant

ill communicate with Chadmann to arrange this on the ESL site

AvKingkOng
frayPetraeus
AvPoker
frayNinja
AvMyuu
frayfenner
frayEdgE
frayHuT
frayiaguz
frayFourby

Quick Comments

	syfCrimson:	Oh wonderful...
	ToRGreenArchon:	GG no re, pretty obvious this team wins
	eCKo`Switch:	Rekt
	syfChadMann:	Holla holla, we wanna win some dolla.
	NDG.Stitch:	tournament just became boring!
	Matt93:	May aswell just run a single bo9 finals between this monstrosity and San's team.
	Dox:	dumb
	iM MaFia:	nice team, but there can only be one ace :)

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by ToR.Arnor

Avant will be merging with fray to join a super team frAvant

ill communicate with Chadmann to arrange this on the ESL site

Will be editing the existing fray ESL to include Avant -
http://www.nationalesl.com/au/team/7978220/

[LordByrnsy]

Signups have closed.
We will be posting about groupings and other information in the next week or so.
There may be a change to the format as we expected there to be more teams.

[NvRossi]

dat last minute merger

Quick Comments

	ROOTPetraeus:	hemad
	MezjE:	pet you're an idiot

[UHF]

Originally Posted by LordByrnsy

Signups have closed.
We will be posting about groupings and other information in the next week or so.
There may be a change to the format as we expected there to be more teams.

Yeah, it's a shame the spirit behind a Team Cup has been ruined to the point where the format needs to be changed. We can't have good things all the time, GG!

[Eddie]

Also not a huge fan of these mergers. Teams only need 4 players. If you really need 1 more to make that up, or for depth, should be looking at an independent, or other teams with only 1-2 players imo.

Hopefully we'll see some upsets, and it wont be too one sided for the big super teams. glhf.

[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Also not a huge fan of these mergers. Teams only need 4 players. If you really need 1 more to make that up, or for depth, should be looking at an independent, or other teams with only 1-2 players imo.

Hopefully we'll see some upsets, and it wont be too one sided for the big super teams. glhf.

Agreed, doesn't make sense for 2 teams that don't have 4 players to latch onto larger teams, rather the two smaller teams should join together

Feedback Edit:
e.g. Fray merging with Avant has taken a team that is already one of the favourites to win to now having an even greater chance with the addition of 3 very good ringers.
Where imo Avant and the ex flash players(who joined with Exile 5)for example could have joined together to create an additional team for the tournament. However the current result has lead to 2 much stronger and deeper teams, with 1 less team being in the tournament.

Needs to be clearer rules regarding this in the future

Very appreciative for the tournament... merely just sharing my opinion

[x5_dot]

In regards to x5, the decision to merge with Revenant and Blysk was made several weeks ago before the lack of teams in the competition became apparent. They asked to play with us, and as we considered them friends and wanted to ensure we could field a team for every round, we gladly accepted. There was no ill will in our decision, though it can be accepted that our line up is stronger for it.

As Rossi said, clearer rules will be needed for this in the future.

Quick Comments

zenabi:

Everyone sees Blysk and Rev as apart of x5 now :P

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by NvRossi

Agreed, doesn't make sense for 2 teams that don't have 4 players to latch onto larger teams, rather the two smaller teams should join together

Feedback Edit:
e.g. Fray merging with Avant has taken a team that is already one of the favourites to win to now having an even greater chance with the addition of 3 very good ringers.
Where imo Avant and the ex flash players(who joined with Exile 5)for example could have joined together to create an additional team for the tournament. However the current result has lead to 2 much stronger and deeper teams, with 1 less team being in the tournament.

Needs to be clearer rules regarding this in the future

Very appreciative for the tournament... merely just sharing my opinion

The original intention was to join forces with a less experienced team, unfortunately their organisation was involved in a rather large scandal (in another title) about a week ago, making us somewhat hesitant to align our name with theirs for 3 months, with 6 days to go options werent all that vast.

RE: Flash players I agree I kicked myself for not thinking to ask them before x5 announced their team, ultimately thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Quick Comments

	Malice:	Yeah, Avant's name is too clean for whoever it was.
	TtSYF.tRoy:	^ +1 for malice.
	ToRSpartaz:	Can we just get down to having fun matches again please? TT
	Dox:	HAHAHA MALICE

[ToRSpookToR]

I understand Av wanting to merge but why the hell would fray? it makes no sense to me they have plenty of players and are one of the most competitive teams already.

[SanG]

There wouldn't be such a negative reaction if Arnor and chadmann only posted the players that would actually be participating.

Quick Comments

asdfSchnitzel:

OMG ITS SANG

[syfChadMann]

There are many reasons for this merger.

both team members (the players, nothing to do with management or org) get along quite well.
Both teams have upcoming restrictions to availability, while all players will play for the merged team, there maybe be times when even fray wouldn't have the numbers available.

Regardless, none of this hate for team merging was brought up for any of the other mergers. Just fray and Avant because they are 'stronger' teams. So this reaction to merging is subjective, rather than an objective view on 'team' or 'rules'....

If Byrnsy has an issue with this merger and wants to separate the teams then thats up to him and we will follow any instruction given.

How 'bout we all just get on with having some good games

Quick Comments

	ToRSpookToR:	dead game
	ChowMuddha:	sc2 ded gaem

[SLCN.NXZ]

The only thing I see that sucks is that there is so many players restricted to one team. So maybe a team has been removed from competition. But to me strength is not a factor given the format. If only 4 players can play each week, it doesn't matter if your bench has got ace worthy players cause they ain't getting no game time.

Just as beatable as either team independently imo, so really I don't mind.

[SLCN.Kez]

Its because you guys are already considered the best team in Aus chad. Could you imagine if we had an aus team league and invited EG and they were like 'oh sure guys just let us team up with liquid as well" like, its just not necessary I feel. Whilst I agree av would need to join up with another team, that team shouldn't be fray. Yes its a double standard to let some 'strong' teams merge and not fray, but a lot of people would probably agree this is taking things a bit too far. Between your two teams you guys have won every major tournament in Australia , including IEM qualifications.

Yes it probably should have been specified in the rules about the limits of which teams can merge, if any, or provide an asterisk *pending admin decision or something.

At the end of the day it probably isn't gonna matter too much and this isn't the death of e-sports, but just my feelings. Also doesn't matter since SLCN.Syf gonna smash you all ahah

[ToRSpookToR]

honestly i am surprised Av and fray didnt ask me if they needed players.

Quick Comments

ToRSpartaz:

Captain of "fraay" sir spook fiighting

[TtSYF.tRoy]

To be honest i don't know why they didn't as White Luxury to fill the team, his been in great form recently.

Quick Comments

SLCN.ARze:

rofl!