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Unread Fri, 20th-Jul-2012, 5:56 PM BnetId: Marzipan.853  Race: Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 14 # 1
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[PvT] Simple Strats and Builds

Hey guys!..

I was just wondering if there's any builds that would be useful and effective when playing against Terran. I can never seem to win against them and its really starting to get frustrating.. Lol. I'm only in Bronze league so I've still got loads to learn.
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Unread Fri, 20th-Jul-2012, 6:03 PM BnetId: Zeratul.523  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Seoul, Korea  Total Posts Made: 236 # 2
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Constant probes, don't get supply blocked and spend your money.
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Unread Fri, 20th-Jul-2012, 6:05 PM BnetId: Zeratul.523  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Seoul, Korea  Total Posts Made: 236 # 3
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If you want more help getting a more solid idea of the match up feel free to add me on skype. Roage312.
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Unread Fri, 20th-Jul-2012, 6:28 PM BnetId: Pezzaperry.756  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 307 # 4
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sorry but in bronze builds aren't that good, you should just be focused on not getting supply blocked, spending your minerals and chronoboosting your stuff.

I would recommend getting about 3gateways and a robotics off 1 base and then expanding, try to keep your money low with this much production first.

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Unread Fri, 20th-Jul-2012, 9:53 PM BnetId: Marzipan.853  Race: Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 14 # 5
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Xavi showed me a 4 gate, won with my first match with it ;D

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this xavi guys sounds like a good protoss
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Xavi should have shown you a cannon rush, i'll have words with him
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Unread Fri, 20th-Jul-2012, 11:04 PM BnetId: KFCTrinion.234  Race: Clan: KFC  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 6
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4 gate is good and all, but you don't want to get to masters with it then realise that if you play a macro game you won't even beat a platinum player That's what happened to me and I had to start learning how to play all over again!

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Unread Sat, 21st-Jul-2012, 1:43 AM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 7
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happened to me too, instead of learning how to play i just learned to avoid macro games
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Unread Sat, 21st-Jul-2012, 6:53 PM BnetId: faithHunter 598  Race: Clan: TN  Location: Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 260 # 8
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9 Pylon, use Chrono when Pylon finishes @Nexus
13 Gateway, keep Chronoing.
14 Gas
16 Pylon

Next 150 minerals get Cybernetics Core. Then save up 50 energy on your Nexus to use it on your Cybernetics Core and your Gateway.

Then spend your next 50 gas on a Stalker and Warp Gate tech.

That's how I open vs Terran at least. Then you can transition into a 1Gate FE or maybe 3gate Expand.

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Unread Sun, 22nd-Jul-2012, 11:18 AM BnetId: Free. 749  Race: Clan: TN  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 76 # 9
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9 Pylon, use Chrono when Pylon finishes @Nexus
13 Gateway, keep Chronoing.
14 Gas
16 Pylon

Next 150 minerals get Cybernetics Core. Then save up 50 energy on your Nexus to use it on your Cybernetics Core and your Gateway.

Then spend your next 50 gas on a Stalker and Warp Gate tech.

That's how I open vs Terran at least. Then you can transition into a 1Gate FE or maybe 3gate Expand.
I open against terran something like this but I always go 2 stalkers instead of 1 .
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Unread Mon, 23rd-Jul-2012, 10:30 PM BnetId: FaDeVenosauR.819  Race: Clan: FaDe  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 78 # 10
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1 gate expand is quite safe vs almost anything.. 3 gate expand isn't necessarily.
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 4:44 PM BnetId: TACentrelink  Race: Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 50 # 11
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Probes and pylons ! NEVER FORGET
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 8:39 PM BnetId: sRLiveR.539  Race: Clan: sR  Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 219 # 12
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As faithHunter said above me, 1gate expand, it's safe against just about everything. Generally people get 1 zealot, one stalker, then expand. Most PvT losses actually occur in midgame (from my experience, at least) and the key to surviving the midgame is probes, pylons, and good micro all game long. If you're losing to specific builds, check out some PvT replays or Protoss streams and see how the pros handle it.
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jul-2012, 6:38 PM BnetId: ThorMayCry. 983  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 12 # 13
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1gate expand isnt tt safe.. as a terran player, i tend to punish protoss who fast expand..
you c,the scenario i analysis is this:
1) if the protoss fast expand, 3rax(2tech,1reactor or 3tech) and push him at 6-7min...
2)if protoss 1base,i will also 3 rax but park my army below his ramp so he cant expand..

thus i feel tt protoss 3gate and move their army below their ramp is a better opening strate.. if the terran engages, a couple of nice ff to split the army and hit the mm hard.. if deres no agression, continue to expand...
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Unread Wed, 1st-Aug-2012, 12:40 AM BnetId: ShieldzSPR.744  Race: Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 657 # 14
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4 gate till gold lol if u can 4 gate to gold atleast it shows u can spend ur money properly and ur execution isnt that bad
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Unread Wed, 1st-Aug-2012, 1:12 AM BnetId: sRGRiM.784  BattleTag: nRvGRiM#6650  Race: Clan: N/A  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 860 # 15
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I suggest you watch Dignitas Apollo's Protoss tutorials. He starts off from bronze and shows how to play as Protoss safely and solidly as you move up the ranks. I think 1 gate expanding in Bronze league is really stupid because no one really expands as fast as you as terran and you won't be able to hold off early pressure because you're still rather new. Although I would get the robo after I expand, I would get 3 gates like pezzaperry said and it's also ok to be slightly aggresive with the 3 gates as long as you have decent macro behind it.

GL, 4 gate, 3 gate stargate and DT rushing are nice builds too ^^
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Unread Wed, 1st-Aug-2012, 12:20 PM BnetId: Bjornbrandr.447  Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 312 # 16
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I played Protoss from Season 2 to Season 3 (from memory) and in that time I went from Bronze to Gold simply by going 3 gate robo into collosus in EVERY matchup.
Strategy isn't your biggest concern in Bronze. To be honest, neither is unit composition. The best thing for you to learn is how to get the most 'stuff' in the least time possible without sacrificing your economy.
As everyone above has said; Probes and Pylons are your friend, as well as constant warp-in and spending all your chrono-boost energy.
You'll be promoted in no time if you just practice that.

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Unread Wed, 1st-Aug-2012, 1:00 PM BnetId: nRvBard.924  Race: Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 458 # 17
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I would highly recommend this : http://scdojo.tumblr.com/post/119933...le-forge-build

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