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**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 12:33 PM

Thanks for the swift reply.

Legionnaire has declined the slot, so it's just the four of you! See you tomorrow night!

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inFeZa:

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

TCPLemminks · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 12:34 PM

Awwwwwwwww

**syfChadMann** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 12:36 PM

how does this play off for the last spot work?..

Round Robin competition I'm guessing?..
a Bo3 each?.. or just Bo1? - and if it is Bo3 does it just count as a win or does the map score come into play also?

I'm sure you'll have all these details soon.. but just curious.

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 12:38 PM

It says in the OP - Bo3 Group.

Map score & head-to-head results will be factored if absolutely necessary, but it shouldn't be. We'll play it out the same way ACL* does their groups.

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syfChadMann:

ohh.. I missed that.. >.>

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 12:40 PM

Oh and to assist with transparency in future - I'll be converting my points spreadsheet to a google document so you guys can keep tabs on your progress any time you like, rather than getting updates at the end of each league.

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Dingobloo:

I like it!

**syfChadMann** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dox

We'll play it out the same way GSL does their groups.

but two get thru from GSL groups.. two games, then winner v winner/ loser v loser - would only need to play the Winner v Winner match to get the player going 2-0...? but then it comes down to the luck of the play your against 1st game... wouldn't a Round Robin > game then Map score to rank the top player...? with each set a Bo3?..

sorry just a bit confused..

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 1:22 PM

I've begun contacting the players who will be selecting their groups. It'll go down like this:

The bottom 4 (16, 15, 14, 13) have been placed in separate groups.
The top seed (1) will determine where the 12th person will go.
The last seed (11) will pick his own group.
10th, 9th and 8th will do the same.
We continue up the list until everyone (7-1) has been slotted.
Even though 16th hasn't been established yet, they have already been allocated a group. Be careful!

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Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

but two get thru from GSL groups.. two games, then winner v winner/ loser v loser - would only need to play the Winner v Winner match to get the player going 2-0...? but then it comes down to the luck of the play your against 1st game... wouldn't a Round Robin > game then Map score to rank the top player...? with each set a Bo3?..

sorry just a bit confused..

Oops, I meant to write "ACL", not "GSL", haha. Awkward. Reading a thread about GSL whilst writing a post about ACL = bad.

Here's a hypothetical scenario:

HuT 1-2 kez
yang 2-1 EdgE

kez 1-2 yang
HuT 0-2 EdgE

HuT 2-1 yang
kez 2-1 EdgE

In the above example, both kez & yang are tied 2-1 on matches (and 5-4 on map score), but since yang beat kez 2-1, he's awarded the 16th slot.

iM yang · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 1:23 PM

gg thanks for playing guys, good to get the 16th spot

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TAEdgE:

you got me good T_T

**iM tgun** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 1:32 PM

How do you determine who is seed 4 from the 5-way tie?

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tgun

How do you determine who is seed 4 from the 5-way tie?

Read the thread!

**iM tgun** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dox

Read the thread!

I meant the tie between myself, ray, glade, mafia -- how do you determine who is first out of us four (thus, fourth seed) as wouldn't they get an advantage over the others?

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inFeZa:

A wet shirt contest

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tgun

I meant the tie between myself, ray, glade, mafia -- how do you determine who is first out of us four (thus, fourth seed) as wouldn't they get an advantage over the others?

Ohh, right! Career points~

**iM tgun** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dox

Ohh, right! Career points~

Why aren't career points then used to determine the tiebreak between the lower ranks? The difference between 4th and 7th is pretty big imo.

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tgun

Why aren't career points then used to determine the tiebreak between the lower ranks? The difference between 4th and 7th is pretty big imo.

They're used for all tiebreakers except 16th.

iM MaFia · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dox

The bottom 4 (16, 15, 14, 13) have been placed in separate groups.
The top seed (1) will determine where the 12th person will go.
The last seed (11) will pick his own group.
10th, 9th and 8th will do the same.
We continue up the list until everyone (7-1) has been slotted.
Even though 16th hasn't been established yet, they have already been allocated a group. Be careful!

I thought the way GSL does it, they have the top 4 seeds in 4 different groups, then each one picks a player to go inside their group - then the next person in that group who got picked does the same, and so on?

Wouldn't this way be harsh for like say the top 2 seeds ultimately not getting to choose their groups but end up with the last 2 remaining spots? (Assuming its 4 players in 4 groups by the end of it )

**Dox** · Mon, 2nd-Jul-2012, 6:00 PM

I was originally gonna go with that, but the whole 11/5 & Open Bracket dynamic makes it pretty clunky. The groups won't necessarily be 4 in each once everyone is finished picking - Group C for example already has 6 people!