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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 9:53 PM BnetId: iMSundeR.451  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 225 # 741
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I don't get it, if the blink stalker hack user Sequoia or any of the other confirmed hackers in the OP of this thread changed his name and came back after three seasons being all like 'nono im really good now, i train heaps and im so good just ask me', then showed signs of hacking, there would be a different outcome.

Why are we treating YaMaMa any differently?

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when was yamama confirmed as a hacker? i wouldn't have missed that
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:03 PM BnetId: frayFourby.534  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 384 # 742
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Rossi also brought up chobos 'screen lock' when in the SAME replay Rossi's camera was shown 'screen locking' at certain times in the replay. Which also makes it far far from conclusive evidence unless you want to ban Rossi also.
I was gonna stay out of this, but this was just really stupid. So i thought i would just say that of course it still screen locks when u watch the replay, That IS the whole point. Its in >SC2GEARS< that you find the inconsistencies in the replay and what he was actually hiding.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:13 PM BnetId: 562  Race: Total Posts Made: 356 # 743
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I was gonna stay out of this, but this was just really stupid. So i thought i would just say that of course it still screen locks when u watch the replay, That IS the whole point. Its in >SC2GEARS< that you find the inconsistencies in the replay and what he was actually hiding.
To be fair that was proven incorrect as the sc2gears time didn't correlate with the replay time, hence the inconsistencies.

I'd like to say three points off that though

1. It doesn't negate the massive amount of evidence that has been brought up.

2. If there is a mistake in the evidence it's found and corrected.

3. People are arguing over specific points. Let's say the vikings thing turned about to be coincidence which some people believe it is and are going 12 rounds over. Ok, but that doesn't explain the pathing changes, the glances at bases, the turn around on shak, the history of confirmed hacking as Yamama (is this confirmed he is that id??) so many 10's of other things that have been brought up. You're not seeing the tree because some people are too busy fighting over what shade of green the leaves are.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:17 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 744
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http://drop.sc/185830

Is another tvz where I go into 3cc after 2 rax pressure, standard and this game was played before mastercup. the follow up is very similar to the accused game.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:26 PM BnetId: cruxis.312  Race: Location: Blue Mountains  Total Posts Made: 465 # 745
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I think the best way to settle this is a Bo61 Chobo vs Mafia.

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No trying to be a dick, but we're talking about possibly banning someone from sc2sea, let's focus on it
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:27 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 746
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if YaMaMa = CHobo can people upload some YaMaMa replays?.. or is it already confirmed that he is a hacker?..
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:29 PM BnetId: TAriiChard.272  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 491 # 747
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guys he is Yamama

http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/YaMaMa/a/


notice the link says "Yamama" and it goes to AsGCHoBo

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was yamama's hacking 100% confirmed?
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HARDY BOYS GOT THIS.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:32 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 748
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There was one season which I used a different ID. i did give the yamama account to my brother at this stage. this was the one which I got R2 on before second free name change came out.

doubt he would hack on my account regardless, that would be just disrespectful... me giving him a free account and him risking me getting banned.

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/251441/AsGCHoBo

I reclaimmed several weeks after second free name change was released in s6

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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:33 PM BnetId: 562  Race: Total Posts Made: 356 # 749
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There was one season which I used a different ID

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/251441/AsGCHoBo
What are you trying to say with this?

Also, can you confirm / deny you're YaMaMa?

Edit: I know many people believe he is, however he is suggesting it may have been his brother.

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he is
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no need - rich's link confirms he is..

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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:36 PM BnetId: BIGGUN.962  Race: Location: Gold Coast  Total Posts Made: 138 # 750
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Yamama / chobo is on the sc2sea list of official coaches

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php...ghlight=yamama

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Although not such a familiar name yet, kice s a resident of Perth, loves fast cars and is better known on the ladders as YaMaMa or AsGCHoBo. He recently took down Jazbas 6-0 and nirvana 4-0 on the ladders, and finished last season in the top 16 with a 70% winrate. An impressive player you are sure to hear more about in the future.

What is really special about him though is he started out as a TGM subscriber himself, coached by the legendary OxygeN . He quickly hit and the rest was history. He brings to the new coaching team a very unique perspective, having gone through the path of a student himself he will be able to help the students learn in the fastest possible way.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:37 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 751
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if YaMaMa = CHobo can people upload some YaMaMa replays?.. or is it already confirmed that he is a hacker?..
there is plenty already out there if you search replay sites >.> and there's nothing suspicious I guarantee you
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:39 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 752
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What are you trying to say with this?

Also, can you confirm / deny you're YaMaMa?

Edit: I know many people believe he is, however he is suggesting it may have been his brother.
I confirm I am YaMaMa, but there was a period of time i.e. the season which I was playing under a different account which YaMaMa was not me. I was AsGCHoBo on the account link provided which was rank 2

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conveniently does not answer to 'are you yamama' for a few pages, and now a pathetic excuse when uncovered
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:48 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 753
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Okay - so I'm confused about one thing.
http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/AsGCHoBo/season/2

Thats 6k games in less than three months.
Season Two: 29 March 2011 - 26 July 2011 (Season two lock began on 5 July 2011).

about 50 games EVERY DAY.. now someone doesn't do that. That is impossible.. Unless you have steel wrists and no life, thats impossible.

So it suggests bot farming?.. using hack programs to farm games for you?.. I'm guessing to unlock some cool in game portraits.. right?

Apparently these Bot Farming programs come from the same sites as the game hacks.. If someone is willing to download bot farming software, they would be exposed to the hack software? - from there its only a short jump - 'I have all the portraits now, why don't I get #1 GM'...

Sure there is assumptions being made here - but it's more pieces to a pretty damning puzzle. Personally I think its clear cut. Unless you are willing to come to a live event and play at this skill level your a hacker in my eyes. There is too much evidence.

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Good find.
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this is getting too obvious
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50 games a day is a lot for someone who only plays for casual fun eh
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:52 PM BnetId: TAdippa.684  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 663 # 754
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:55 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 755
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Can the people who are email bombing him kindly please stop it? He is getting harassed now with mass emails from bots.

1. He has not been proven guilty yet, do not treat him as such. Basically TL says this exact same thing too.
2. If he is found guilty he will be banned from all tournaments by all organisers, but interfering in his personal life and harassing him is way overboard.

Someone made a bot send mass junk mail to his personal email address to flood it.

I have sent an email to CatZ on tony's request and hopefully we will hear for him shortly.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:56 PM BnetId: Rage  Race: Clan: wT  Total Posts Made: 116 # 756
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My god, are you some of you guys privately emailing him?

You're a bunch of silly gooses.

Calm down spazzes.

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Agree with the sentiment, no need to go spamming people, just provide evidence here
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:56 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 757
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i dont beleive he would otherwise that would be disrespectful
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People are harassing him with emails? That's just not on, even if he is found guilty of hacking.

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If he is found guilty then he can be fed to dogs, but until then some respect is warranted
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agreed with iaguz ;)
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:58 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 759
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Okay - so I'm confused about one thing. That has been thrown around the TA Skype chat.
http://app03.sc2ranks.com/sea/39803/AsGCHoBo/season/2

Thats 6k games in less than three months.
Season Two: 29 March 2011 - 26 July 2011 (Season two lock began on 5 July 2011).

about 50 games EVERY DAY.. now someone doesn't do that. That is impossible.. Unless you have steel wrists and no life, thats impossible.

So it suggests bot farming?.. using hack programs to farm games for you?.. I'm guessing to unlock some cool in game portraits.. right?

Apparently these Bot Farming programs come from the same sites as the game hacks.. If someone is willing to download bot farming software, they would be exposed to the hack software? - from there its only a short jump - 'I have all the portraits now, why don't I get #1 GM'...

Sure there is assumptions being made here - but it's more pieces to a pretty damning puzzle. Personally I think its clear cut. Unless you are willing to come to a live event and play at this skill level your a hacker in my eyes. There is too much evidence.
That doesn't look accurate to me? 6k games in GM? is that even possible? sc2ranks glitch? I know season 6 and stuff shows earliers season... dunno
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 10:59 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 760
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That doesn't look accurate to me? 6k games in GM? is that even possible? sc2ranks glitch? I know season 6 and stuff shows earliers season... dunno
You have Dark Voices portrait.
no glitch.
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