The Original Idea
Lots of us have been comparing our number of games played, and making fun of one another for having so little games played comparatively. To make it convenient for people to compare and not ask so regularly "hey how many games have you played", this thread will be used to show the number of games different people have played.
I am continuing Elusory's excellent idea, but this time with automated extraction / markup of data and some new stats!
Latest Updates
No more updates for now unless something major comes up.
OCS Points
Mr. OCS, Eddie, is now offering OCS points for the people with the most #Dedication.
The top 10 people with the most games played at end of the season shall get 15 points each
The person who has the best win % over 200 games gets a bonus 15 points
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Broken Accounts
The data for the following accounts cannot be retrieved. Either due to a name change on the profile or the blizzard website having a problem (ie: all the EU accounts). No new data from these accounts will be shown until this is resolved.
PLEASE CHECK FOR YOUR NAME AND POST TO THE THREAD IF YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR PROFILE NAME
Details Players are ranked by games played (1v1 only) across all the submitted accounts with the win % being calculated by all wins / all games*100, the league shown will be the highest current league across all your submitted accounts. Total career games includes team games as that is the only way I can retrieve this stat from Blizzard. The stats will usually be updated between 9am-10am AEST.
Call Outs
Osiris - I am calling out Boardingpear and iliketrains because i am more dedicated Wally - I will call out demi because he's a scrub BoardingPear - I'm calling out no one 'cause I'm bad. Crimson - Calling out Australia, NZ gonna take out 3 of the top 5 spots. Chiddiru - Calling out FLuX, because coach needs more #dedication then the student ace223 - At first I thought I had no friends to callout, then I realised the whole of DGTV, prove my 200 games does not make me the most #Dedicated Chen - dude this Elusory guy forced me to play sc and now I have more games than him. DUDEEEEEEEEEE where's your #Dedication Elusory - Wow... brb change portrait and you'll see who's winning. I CALL THIS GUY OUT. Shockwave - To the DGTV Plebs who will see what REAL dedication is!
How do I join / change my details?
Post in this thread including the name you want to be known by and the B.net profiles you want to be counted. You should put your main profile first as this will determine the clan and race shown on the table. You can also add a call out to motivate your fellow players.
To add additional profiles or change any details just do another post and I will add/update them.
Last edited by abstract; Thu, 25th-Dec-2014 at 3:41 PM.
This was just due to the first account I had listed for you (SEA) having you listed as Terran as you have only 1 game played there and that was as Terran.
Will change it so NA is your main account, you will loose the clan tag though as you have no clan for that account. This can be sorted later when I add the clan override feature.
This was just due to the first account I had listed for you (SEA) having you listed as Terran as you have only 1 game played there and that was as Terran.
Will change it so NA is your main account, you will loose the clan tag though as you have no clan for that account. This can be sorted later when I add the clan override feature.
ummm what? I haven't played terran on 1v1 ladder for 2 seasons............... On the other dedication thread I'm put down as a zerg.
The SEA one (which I had as your main before) has your primary race as Terran, Perhaps that is because you have played more games as Terran on that account overall.
Also looks cool, but telling ppl they have a negative win rate is mean :P
I thought about that.... It is a really useful stat though and it allows you to see how your going across all your accounts. Also if you are banging out lots of games and your win rate in < 50% then it is probably a good indicator that adjusting your play, as opposed to more games, is what is required so I feel its worth keeping. If a lot of people really don't like it I can remove.
Everything looking good though Thxs for doing all this.
U can also remove vortex from the table cos he isnt laddering >.<
Also I believe the call outs are from last season? And we are only doing the new ones that were mentioned for this season?
And what chase said, cyclone and liquid are the same person
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Also I believe the call outs are from last season? And we are only doing the new ones that were mentioned for this season?
The call outs are a direct cut and paste from the old thread. Would ppl prefer to keep them all ongoing (with updates that ppl add) or clear them each season?
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
Sun Tzu 孫子
"If storm finishes I survive, otherwise terran is op" xGKingDelete 2012
Interesting to know but not very useful otherwise. Also it might make some people very conscious about it (win rates) and add to anxiety when they know it is being made known so publicly. Might end up being counter productive since it's about #dedication, i.e. number of games rather than number of wins.
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Interesting to know but not very useful otherwise. Also it might make some people very conscious about it (win rates) and add to anxiety when they know it is being made known so publicly. Might end up being counter productive since it's about #dedication, i.e. number of games rather than number of wins.
I will add an option so that people can opt out of the win %
Ok I have added all the new ones I could find that weren't already on the old #dedication post. I am keeping all the first season ones and just updating any new ones as this is what Elusory said he was going to do. If people want a clean slate with only this seasons you can quick comment vote on this post.
Ok I added an option so that people can opt out of showing the win %
If you would like to not have it shown for you please do a quick comment reply to this post and I will change your entry.
I opted out from showing my win rate
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I think I wont want my win rate shown. Reduces my stress I think even though atm it's not affecting me but it's already a conscious effect atm even before this was created. As it is I'm trying not to think of wins but games. So opting out. Thxs.
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Also changing my call out...
with work started.... hitting past that 400 mark last season was an achievement in itself for me (just wanted to see the max number of games I could achieve). I probs would be lucky to hit 100-120 a season.
So throwing it out to all especially mGG players to set what I achieve as a minimum. If u cant hit whatever I did and go beyond? You are slacking!!!!!
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"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL
This season, I'm having a friendly competition with Shayne (not going well so far), and will accept duck's challenge LOL. Ravens, Inter, Enak, blah... heck I'll just go for top 10 this season!
^ It's a call out kinda thing. And omg Schnitzel top 10?!
Was just thinking about this, why not have the top 10 each week (maybe month?) get a bonus 2 SCS points (maybe 5 if per month) so that people will be more motivated-ish to play more
Was just thinking about this, why not have the top 10 each week (maybe month?) get a bonus 2 SCS points (maybe 5 if per month) so that people will be more motivated-ish to play more
Just an idea that popped up
You can make a separate points system, whoever reaches the points in a certain amount of time can get an award or just acknowledgement, that they play the most games of all (alternative, you can have a prize give away).
You can call out to all clans (and anyone else) to contribute to a prize to the person. So clans can get involved with it as well. After all people here and in Clans are all part of this community
That way it doesn't effect existing points system.
Altogether, it a good idea to get people motivated to play SC2!!
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Last edited by VorteX; Fri, 10th-Jan-2014 at 3:15 PM.
I have discovered something that must be addressed immediately. The capitalisation of my name is incorrect, it should be NaMeK not Namek. This is completely unacceptable and I demand this to be fixed ASAP! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ FIX IT OR RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
On the same vein as NaMeK's post, MY KAPPATALIZATION IS ALSO INCORRECT.
Please fix before I die of shame.
Also calling out TtSEED.MegaChobo this season. I hear he's playing Dota, L4D2, and other undedicated things with the ROOT house mainstays so I guess I should kick his ass into gear.
Before we add more information to the table, perhaps it's good to remind ourselves that the thread is about #dedication so trying to get to see more people play on ladder?
I like the table as it is, maybe as mentioned, like previously in #dedication 1.0, a link to the player's several profiles would be useful. Otherwise it looks pretty good atm imo win rates are fun and interesting but might divert the focus from the original intention to increase their #dedication.
Thxs Elusory and Abstract for doing all this
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Before we add more information to the table, perhaps it's good to remind ourselves that the thread is about #dedication so trying to get to see more people play on ladder? I like the table as it is, maybe as mentioned, like previously a link to the player's several profiles. Otherwise it looks pretty good atm imo win rates are fun and interesting but might divert the focus from the original intention to increase their #dedication.
I agree Nemnem, #dedication is not about winrates!
Dedication is about consistently practicing, with blizzard ladder trying to push everyone to a 50% winrate anyway it doesn't hold much meaning.
People underestimate how easy it is to not try in starcraft. If my only focus is to PALY MOAR GEAMEZZ. Then after an amount of time I'm gonna start taking dumb risks to try and get early wins. I start to lose more, and when I win, its just a win, not an improvement.
Win percentage helps keep you focused on the fact that its not about playing games but about playing your best in those games.I think having the win % reminds people that you actually need to be trying your hardest in your #dedication games. So even if you play less than some guy who will never improve because he's playing too much, you are still improving which is so much more important than some bragging rights.
People underestimate how easy it is to not try in starcraft. If my only focus is to PALY MOAR GEAMEZZ. Then after an amount of time I'm gonna start taking dumb risks to try and get early wins. I start to lose more, and when I win, its just a win, not an improvement.
Win percentage helps keep you focused on the fact that its not about playing games but about playing your best in those games.I think having the win % reminds people that you actually need to be trying your hardest in your #dedication games. So even if you play less than some guy who will never improve because he's playing too much, you are still improving which is so much more important than some bragging rights.
I understand what you're saying, if your only goal is to get your number of games up. But I don't think winrate does a good job of reflecting that, your mmr will just even out so you have 50% anyway even if you are playing like trash/cheesin every game
Vortex I'm confused how you're getting to this conclusion? One person using multiple accounts is tallied together into one number next to that one player's name. There is no "false advertising" in this situation?
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When it is really just a few people, because of their other accounts they own.
Their multiple accounts aren't being shown separately?
Which comes down to linking accounts that are under the same person. People will just think it is another person stats, when it actually the same person. It is like false advertising of dedication, "wow there so many players listed, I should play more to catch up or beat them". When it is really just a few people, because of their other accounts they own. Linking accounts also can be used show people how many games they played so far, i.e. their dedication. Which in turn can motivate people to do the same.
You lost me somewhere...
Each person listed in the table are different people. So there isn't any false advertisement.
So under myself for example, Nemesis. The number of games listed there played or total career games, is the total of all the accounts I have played on. Why do players play more than one account?
Some reasons could be : lagging on EU or NA today, so playing on SEA or KR (as an example) OR I've been active on NA but I got heaps of bp on SEA so it's SEA today OR I want to practice vs more cheese today so I'm going to do KR for the day etc... OR NA is down for maintenance... time to ladder on SEA/KR for now OR (whatever other reasons players might choose to ladder on various servers)
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Some reasons could be : lagging on EU or NA today, so playing on SEA or KR (as an example) OR I've been active on NA but I got heaps of bp on SEA so it's SEA today OR I want to practice vs more cheese today so I'm going to do KR for the day etc... OR NA is down for maintenance... time to ladder on SEA/KR for now OR (whatever other reasons players might choose to ladder on various servers)
this... though im usually jumping between sea as my trying to get promoted account and na as my dick around and try out new builds account
Vortex I'm confused how you're getting to this conclusion? One person using multiple accounts is tallied together into one number next to that one player's name. There is no "false advertising" in this situation?
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ah ok I think you are maybe misunderstood something and that is the source of all this.
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You lost me somewhere...
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Don't Worry...Whatever....I just took steps and ended the confusion/misunderstanding for all of us.
So let just all get back to the spirit of this thread!
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Last edited by VorteX; Sat, 11th-Jan-2014 at 10:16 AM.
I have several features to add to the thread but based on some of the comments lately I thought I should check whether people would want them, or worse yet feel negatively about them.
There seems to be 2 camps, one feeling that the win % based data is counter productive to the #dedication thread, or at least doesn't have any meaning, and the other who feel that it is a useful stat for driving improvement.
The main point of this thread is to get everyone laddering more, have some friendly competition, and hopefully improve along the way. I try to keep these things in mind when planning features but perhaps I am getting off track a bit.
So without further ado here is a more detailed list of what I am adding, separated into game number / % win based features. If anyone feels this isn't the direction you want this thread to go please make a comment and perhaps I can look at running a poll.
Based on game number:
Adding numbered positions to the table + position change
Show position change up/down per week like the actual ladder has
Number of games played this week / last week (added as columns in the table)
Number of games played yesterday (added as column in the table)
Based on win %
win % this week / last week (added as columns in the table)
I feel this is a good indicator on how your laddering is going, although the ladder should push you towards 50% in the long term, short term increase in win % should be an indicator of improvement
Map Masters (This will be a seperate section to the table)
For a bit of fun I am going to put up who has the highest % win rate on each ladder map across all your games. To be included the player has to have at least 20 games on the map.
(won't include games from the first week or so of the season as I don't have the stats for then)
General:
League promotion congratulations (This will be a seperate section to the table)
Will have a seperate sections and different flair for:
GM / Masters / Highest League achieved / Making back to an already achieved league
for GM / Masters I will also note the server it was achieved on
Clan Override
Allows people to add a clan tag even if it is not on there account (some people seemed to want to do this before)
I don't see any problems with these additions. The Win % makes me a little nervous, but I'm happy to live with being in the red most of the time
One of the things I was considering was removing overall win % and just having this / last week. How would you feel about that? Or would it be the same
Was discussing with some clanmates.. the %win can also be inflated cos some players might be masters on one account but silver/gold on others. Obviously when they are laddering on the lower accounts, their win rates goes up. So when it is added to the overall, it looks high.
Another suggestion someone else made was perhaps instead of %wins, to replace with maybe ladder points. But even then that might be controversial but at least it might not make players as conscious as compared to %wins.
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Adding numbered positions to the table + position change
Show position change up/down per week like the actual ladder has
100% support this. No comments on the others though. Don't need to make it more complicated for yourself already as the main point, THE ULTRA MAIN POINT, is to see games played. And oh, I don't really think win% is much needed in the table.
Hay everyone just started playing again, idk how this works and can't be bothered reading but id like to put my challenge as playing 50 games a month and every game under ill do 2 press ups and everyone over ill do 1 for my #dedication. parents shit net makes this a challenge of emotional control :P good luck people.
Hay everyone just started playing again, idk how this works and can't be bothered reading but id like to put my challenge as playing 50 games a month and every game under ill do 2 press ups and everyone over ill do 1 for my #dedication. parents shit net makes this a challenge of emotional control :P good luck people.
edit i challenge Dot to play a game a day
I can't do anything if you don't link me the b.net profiles for the accounts you are playing on
Hay everyone just started playing again, idk how this works and can't be bothered reading but id like to put my challenge as playing 50 games a month and every game under ill do 2 press ups and everyone over ill do 1 for my #dedication. parents shit net makes this a challenge of emotional control :P good luck people.
Its simple you can just copy and paste your BattleNet Profile here in this thread and it will automatically include you or abstract will do it for you.
@Abstract: this is a good idea. Have people to state their goal of how many games need to be played for a day or week or month. If they don't reach their goal, they have to do something they list them selves as some kind of punishment (like Stallion). If they do reach their goal people can congratulate them...lol...Have a Column saying Yes (Green) or No (red) if they reach the goal or not. It helps motivate people, because they see other people reaching their goal and they can do the same to reach their own goal (beside having red beside your name compared to the rest that are Green, can be embarrassing and it is motivation in itself...lol).
Of Course the Punishments will be shown publicly as well as the Goal (Yes or no) and Congratulations if they achieve their goal.
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Last edited by VorteX; Mon, 13th-Jan-2014 at 4:18 PM.
I have added some more features to the table (position change and games played this week) and replace season win % with this weeks win %. I have almost finished up doing the automatic league promotions congratulations and will probably have that implemented tomorrow.
That will probably be the last feature addition as this seems like a good trade off from peoples comments of what they like / don't like. If anyone wants something
added just post and if there is support for it I will do it.
It should be noted that weekly stats and position change are matched against Monday morning (just after midnight) if you join after that you will need to
wait till next week to see them. Also if you add an account mid week you may see a spike on your weekly stats.
Of Course the Punishments will be shown publicly as well as the Goal (Yes or no) and Congratulations if they achieve their goal.
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I think the punishment stuff is a personal thing, i just do it cos its extra motivation outside super super fun fun gym
Punishment sounds like an awful word. Just keep it simple as it is. However, the idea of encouraging players to state their goals sounds pretty good. It's like making a New Year's Resolution.
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Punishment sounds like an awful word. Just keep it simple as it is. However, the idea of encouraging players to state their goals sounds pretty good. It's like making a New Year's Resolution.
Well i would use another word for punishment...but I don't know what other word that means the same but in not in what you call it "awful word".
It was suppose to be you have to do something (that you stated), if you don't meet your goal you have to do it. Sometimes it is good to have something to motivate you, other than "Just Play". If you don't do something, than you have to do it (so if they don't want to do it, than they will play to reach their goal). Of course this is optional and people can opt out and also they can just state their goal without the punishment (they can tell abstract).
At the end of the day, this is just an idea/option/feedback/suggestion, you don't have to take it so seriously.
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Last edited by VorteX; Tue, 14th-Jan-2014 at 7:15 AM.
Hi All, can you please add me to the list. Been really enjoying SC2 despite the difficulty of being promoted at the moment. My goal is to ensure my Bonus Pool doesn't go above 100 for both SEA & NA.
For Some reason (it was working before, probable stopped working after it was Closed), this link bounce back to this thread "The #Dedication thread 2.0". Correct One:
For Historical Reference: The original "The #Dedication Thread" can be found at: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=8133
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Last edited by VorteX; Tue, 14th-Jan-2014 at 9:49 AM.
If abstract + Elusory are happy to, we shall give out OSC Points for #Dedication!!!
The top 10 people with the most games played at end of the season shall get 15 points each
The person who has the best win % over 200 games gets a bonus 15 points
Ok everything is pretty much how I want it now. However I am open to suggestions if someone really wants a feature.
Added today:
- Season win % is back as requested
- win % that is 40-50% is now orange instead of red
and I am proud to finally announce the addition of automatic league promotion notifications.
The notification will stay up for a week and we be separtated into:
GM / Masters / Up and Comers (the other leagues)
In addition you can get a promotion notification for getting GM on a "better" server even if you already have GM.
Where: KR > NA/EU > SEA.
Also in case you didn't see Eddie's post your #Dedication will now be rewarded with OCS points!
Wow man, I can't believe OSC points are given for this! While some people might say that people may just throw games here and there to secure 15 points, I think 15 points would slowly be less and less significant as months go by. 15 points per season (3 months for this season) is not going to sustain you. Getting at least second in weekly tournaments will already net you 15 points!
Hence, the 15 points isn't really to determine who will be in OSC 2014, but rather just be there to motivate everyone else who don't have the chance to get OSC points via tournaments. (I guess)
Wow man, I can't believe OSC points are given for this! While some people might say that people may just throw games here and there to secure 15 points, I think 15 points would slowly be less and less significant as months go by. 15 points per season (3 months for this season) is not going to sustain you. Getting at least second in weekly tournaments will already net you 15 points!
Hence, the 15 points isn't really to determine who will be in OSC 2014, but rather just be there to motivate everyone else who don't have the chance to get OSC points via tournaments. (I guess)
If you were to like spam losses and not be able to practice and then you get top 32 for OSC points, it will most probably pointless for the guy to even try playing vs the "legit" other 31 players since he didn't practice or even "play" to prepare
Just a suggestion, could u split the table into say, 20s or 25s in a table? The very long table now makes it a little hard to read. Much love, thxs.
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@abstract: Is it possible you can add the active countdown time to the next update in the OP (similar how people use the active countdown to the next clan war)?
So we all know when to expect the next update and they can try and post their profile before the next update.
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@abstract: Is it possible you can add the active countdown time to the next update in the OP (similar how people use the active countdown to the next clan war)?
So we all know when to expect the next update and they can try and post their profile before the next update.
The updates are about 11:00 AEDT and 00:00 AEDT. with an afternoon one sometimes. I can probably do a countdown though if someone can link me a how to on setting it up.
The updates are about 11:00 AEDT and 00:00 AEDT. with an afternoon one sometimes. I can probably do a countdown though if someone can link me a how to on setting it up.
18 January 2014 12:00 AM AEDT
Just click "quote" and you can see the code for how it's done!
dw abstract. The thread is great as it is atm It already has heaps of info on it and I think most people dun mind when it gets updated when they are being added in knowing that it's happening daily anyway
Once again, thxs.
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How come people have negative games played this week? Is this possible!?
Love the thread
EU data not available therefore as far as the program is concerned there are -ve games. I might put something in to deal with this but it should be a very rare occurrence.
Oh noes! With negative games played... Alan's beating me for number of games!
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Let me give you guys an idea of how "dedicated" I was by recounting my day yesterday. Woke up at 2pm. Proceeded to start playing LoL until 5am when Ranked shuts down. Did not eat food or drink water, did not use the toilet, did not take a break. Played a total of 27 games (Games go for 30 to 60 minutes).
Now I did this countless times back in the day for SCII.
Should this unhealthy act be imitated and aspired towards? Absolutely not.
Let me give you guys an idea of how "dedicated" I was by recounting my day yesterday. Woke up at 2pm. Proceeded to start playing LoL until 5am when Ranked shuts down. Did not eat food or drink water, did not use the toilet, did not take a break. Played a total of 27 games (Games go for 30 to 60 minutes).
Now I did this countless times back in the day for SCII.
Should this unhealthy act be imitated and aspired towards? Absolutely not.
Playing a game does not take much will power.
True dedication is not unhealthily playing a video, true dedication is a lifestyle
Hey can I get it added that I (Liquid) have been promoted to Diamond since it doesn't seem to of been changed. Thank you (Check my NA account).
Until today Blizzard hadn't updated their API for the new patch. This means that I had to manually do the games for anyone who had one of the Carbot profile pictures on their account. Because your NA one did, and I had to update the games from it manually, The program wasn't able to check for a promotion.
Since Blizzard has fixed the API now your promotion should go through on the next update of the thread.
I don't think this has been updated in a day or two. The games don't seem to have changed.
Once it's updated everything should be ok
Usually the thread gets updated 2-3 times a day but I am overseas at the moment and the internet is on and off but I am still updating once everyday. In a week and a half it will go back to being more frequent.
This whole system is actually amazing. I assume you have setup a program which records data in an external location and then you transfer the information into this thread? How complex is the program - sounds like you wrote the coding yourself? Would love to find out more about the process - I have a few conceptual ideas for use within ACL/WCS.
This whole system is actually amazing. I assume you have setup a program which records data in an external location and then you transfer the information into this thread? How complex is the program - sounds like you wrote the coding yourself? Would love to find out more about the process - I have a few conceptual ideas for use within ACL/WCS.
Yes I wrote the program myself. Basically I have a program written in python which interfaces with the Blizzard SC2 JSON API (http://blizzard.github.io/api-sc2-docs/) and extracts the data including race, clan, league, career games, season games, season wins for each account of a player. Then I aggregate the data across the accounts to get total season games etc.
For things like the #dedication rank / promotions / weekly games/ win % I store the status of all the players (with the account data) on each run and do a comparison between the archived data to the most current run.
I am currently doing a bit of a rewrite to make everything a bit cleaner / robust (Blizzard has been having all sorts of problems lately and I would like the program to automatically deal with it when they do) and it should be a lot easier to reuse parts of the program depending on what you are interested in doing.
Happy to discuss with you any ideas you have. I have a good idea of what data blizzard allows access to so I can probably tell you if the ideas are feasible or not.
My race is now Protoss does that update automatically?
The race is based on what Blizzard thinks your primary race is, there is field in the API. I just checked yours and it is still terran. I assume it will change to protoss when you have played more games as protoss but I am not sure exactly how Blizzard determines the number (ie: if it is just more than played as Terran or if it is based on season or recent games etc.)
Did the secondary accounts get removed or something? It feels like I dropped down a heap and that my NA account was removed from the equation - did something break with the patch?
Program re-witten to be more robust and extendable as well as deal with errors on Blizzards end better. This will also feed into the next step which is complete automation.
It is now very component based as well so hopefully parts of it should be easily reusable for what Baldie has in mind, or for other purposes that may come up.
One thing to note: if you leave a league with one of you accounts from this day forward the program will not display you in the table until you have either done your placement match again or played games on your other accounts equal to the games played this season on the account which left the league.
The reason for this is when you leave the league all your stats on your profile page for 1v1 are no longer available until you play your placement match again (I don't know why blizzard does this but that is what I have to work with). This was one reason why people were sometimes showing up with negative games for the week.
Players that have not done a placement match on an account I currently have or that add an account which has no placement match will not be affected. It only comes into play when you would have less games played in a week than the last update.
Also my win/loss rate Actually I dun mind the season win/loss ratio but not the week's cos that flunctuates too much but I think your formula makes both dependent? so it's fine just not to show both for me :P super thanks
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Also my win/loss rate Actually I dun mind the season win/loss ratio but not the week's cos that flunctuates too much but I think your formula makes both dependent? so it's fine just not to show both for me :P super thanks
oops sorry Nem. It was not supposed to show the win % for you it must of slipped through on the change. I will fix it.
The Dark games is a small bug from the migration to the new version. I will fix that up too. Thanks for finding it.
Just got off the plane and trying to do an update but the US battle.net server is unreachable, and the EU is having problems with the profiles. Will do an update as soon as I am able.
Can you remove the [Troj] from my name? I haven't heard anything from them in a month so dead/removed safe bet.
Seems like you're pretty ignorant about what has been posted recently.
And to begin with, from the posts you've been posting about Trojan, I don't think you were that interested in joining anyway. So I don't know why did you even get involved with them.
Sorry for sounding so offensive but crap posts like "so dead/removed" aka blatant assumptions aren't tolerated by me.
Like the red text says you have an EU account and as the EU web site is still broken I can't pull stats from it at the moment. Because of this the program will not show your details until it is working again. (otherwise you would be missing games and the place / stats shown wouldn't be correct anyway)
By the end of the week I will set it up to automatically list affected accounts when stuff like this happens.
Last edited by abstract; Tue, 11th-Feb-2014 at 11:46 AM.
Ok I have had a think about it and can see how ppl being removed from the table can be confusing. All the players will be added back (although the stats will be missing the EU data) for now and I will work on a change to the program to deal with these sort of problems better. (I didn't imagine Blizzards servers would continuously have problems)
The data for the following accounts cannot be retrieved. Either due to a name change on the profile or the blizzard website having a problem (ie: all the EU accounts). No new data from these accounts will be show until this is resolved.
I tried the links... I think the problem is bliz website related. They will probably work on it soon. So no worries.
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I tried the links... I think the problem is bliz website related. They will probably work on it soon. So no worries.
Yes it is 100% on Blizzards end (it happens quite a lot on the EU server for some reason). The message and section is auto-generated by the program when ever an account has a problem so the message has to be generic and cover different types of problems.
Added account. Your race is dependent on what Blizzard thinks your primary race is, which I think is based on number of games as that race. So your account will switch to Terran automatically once you play more games as it.
Sorry there has been no update the last couple of days. I didn't have access to my computer due to renovations. Should be back to normal updates now.
It's alright dude. Don't think however long you disappear will matter because you've done too much to have shots fired at you. If there's anyway you need people to help you just let me know! Will be more than willing to help as much as I can.
There are several broken accounts listed at the moment. Some of which are due to them using a profile picture that the Blizzard web site doesn't understand. You see it when you click on the link and see that the profile frame has no image in it. Hopefully Blizzard will fix it soon but until then the affected accounts will have to change the profile picture or have no data read until fixed.
The table has you at 490 games, which if you count all the games (1v1) from the above links, is correct. So one of the following has happened.
1) I am missing one or more of your million accounts
2) Blizzard has somehow lost games from one of your accounts (unlikely)
3) You may have remembered the number of games you played incorrectly
Just to say it at this point of time... we all love what abstract is doing
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"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL
Excision: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/466442/1/Excision/---> is now Osiris
Excision: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/4126510/1/EGidraRC/--> is now Chu
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
Sun Tzu 孫子
"If storm finishes I survive, otherwise terran is op" xGKingDelete 2012
So end of season is coming up. When do people want the day/time the last extraction of data should be (Remember this will be for all servers)?
Also I think it is best to clear the call outs at the end of this season. People can add new ones once the new season starts.
Should we just mark it off at 13 April, Sunday, 2359H? Last day to catch up in games, and it's when most people go to bed for the weekday ahead I guess.
Should we just mark it off at 13 April, Sunday, 2359H? Last day to catch up in games, and it's when most people go to bed for the weekday ahead I guess.
Yes Sunday midnight (AEST) will be the cutoff for the season.
"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL
There are a few threads on the SC2 forums about it but with no response
I can probably work around it but will take some time to do the programming and I am pretty overloaded at the moment. Will try to do something soon though.
There are a few threads on the SC2 forums about it but with no response
I can probably work around it but will take some time to do the programming and I am pretty overloaded at the moment. Will try to do something soon though.
Yeah I saw those threads was hoping you or someone else here saw something I didnt
No rush brother Take your time and thank you for all your effort!
Blizzard have US / SEA / KR server APIs consistently showing the correct stats.
However the TW server alternates between last seasons stats and this seasons every load.... EU is even worse and shows it maybe 1 in 10 but it is not always the same number.
I think what has happened is that they are load balancing the stats databases and one or more of them are out of sync for EU / TW.
I am considering just posting up US / KR / SEA at the moment and possibly putting some work around for the EU / TW server at a later date.
What does everyone think?
EDIT: The TW / KR servers may be the same for games but they are not for the web interface
Last edited by abstract; Wed, 14th-May-2014 at 7:12 PM.
Better than nothing mate, just do what you want with it as long as it's not too much work! Think we've all realised how much you did for us ever since this thing stopped working. We miss it so much
The TW / KR servers may be the same for games but they are not for the web interface
Yeah its connected, but not - I think due to Korean internet regulations?.. idk.. but most people here would have a TW account, I know I do. to find out if you do, go to http://nios.kr/sc2/kr/1v1/hots/ and search for your account, if the flag is TW then you've got a TW account. its a name search, so if you called yourself iillilililil good luck finding yourself. >.<
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"The hardest part about playing Protoss is not choking on your dad's d--k" - Kreamy 2013
Just curious, it appears as though some people have "Games this week" and "Win Percent this week" but many do not.. I assume this is due to the fact some servers dont work? Could you please confirm?
Promotion will only show when you reach a new league higher than all your other accounts. So if you were Gold on NA and then get gold on SEA it is not considered a promotion by the system as it already considered you as gold league.
why is pet not rank 1, his accounts must be fucked. His games played is 100% wrong
Pet has his korean account on the TW server and as that API is having problems at the moment (as stated at the top) those games aren't being counted. Same for Wally, Fenner and a couple other guys.
I am hoping Blizzard will finally fix it but if not I will do a work around ( I haven't had time to program it yet though as it is exam period atm)
Do help to change the default clan tag for me and Chen to our NA accounts! It should be shown as [fraay].
Thank you so much. Appreciate you for every single update!
EDIT: Don't change this yet, will be adding my SEA change soon!
If I set your NA accounts as primary it will show your race as random though as that is what blizzard thinks you are. I can put in an override for the clan but I won't be able to do that until another week or so (after exams). So do you want correct race or correct clan for now?
If I set your NA accounts as primary it will show your race as random though as that is what blizzard thinks you are. I can put in an override for the clan but I won't be able to do that until another week or so (after exams). So do you want correct race or correct clan for now?
It's ok, don't need to trouble yourself. Just leave it as it is, it's fine with me!
Ok Season 3 crept up on me while I was busy. The current Dedication ranking is the final for Season 2 (I will make an archive of it soon). Season 3 will start as soon as all the servers have rolled over.
Also I will be dropping all the people with 0 games for the whole season:
abstract (yes even me, although I plan to be back this season)
Harreh
KerO
Liquid
Daedalus
FSBlueS
Skriker
Bandit
MueX
Yuu
Matt
Uraboss
akajakob
Also I will be dropping all the people with 0 games for the whole season:
abstract (yes even me, although I plan to be back this season)
Harreh
KerO
Liquid
Daedalus
FSBlueS Skriker
Bandit
MueX
Yuu
Matt
Uraboss
akajakob
They can always be added back if they come back to playing SC2 anyway.
Good luck this season everyone!
Hi abstract,
If you haven't already removed me, I started playing again this season so would love to stay on the list.
More recently Blizzard is taking a long time for the new season data to be available properly in the API after a season change. I am waiting on that at the moment. Last season it took about a week or so from the start of season.
I will make plat this season or die trying! Up the #Dedication fellas!
I've got the #dedication this season! I've played around 100 games this season and my highest league ever was gold. I've gone from gold to diamond already this season!
Maybe the highest % win rate thing should be changed to:
Everyone with at least 500 (or some reasonable number) games and more than 55% win rate will be awarded 10 OSC points.
For every 5% increment, the points earned will be doubled.
Then we can see who's more dedicated in getting new accounts and playing from up to when you start losing first. Ok but in all seriousness though.. this season's gonna be a long one, and the more you play, the more you're supposed to improve so the point jump would reward those who improve a lot in this season. 60% and more is kinda hard on ladder though.. I guess?
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