[CHoBo(kice)]

Kayhan actually came back and wanted more lessons but would still not pay me for first lessons??? He said would pay at end for all this seemed fishy

[Sedz]

Kice is still a GM level player, I've seen him play in person, but he's definitely not good enough to be taking games off the best, that much we know. Now, if we take what Seo has said himself, that he doesn't do coaching, and we know his english is horribly broken, we put two and two together and can assume it was Kice coaching, this can be further proved by his students.

Now, Kice obviously got a bit of business through being a TGM (Whether or not he was recognised as a coach legitimately or not, I'm not questioning) but he also got a lot of business through word and mouth, evidence his coaching was obviously beneficial to people who sought after it.

Sure he may have achieved his TGM title through smurfs on his account, but you can't deny customers were satisfied with his coaching, they paid money, and they received a beneficial and worthwhile service, so it seems illogical that he is made to pay back the money he received from coaching.

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	Bash:	logic is good!
	AsGNabi:	Just to add: He was on mic to students during lessons.
	CHoBo(kice):

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

To clarify, he only became a TGM coach in Jan, and pretty sure it because of SeoHyeon's skill

This statement says it all. Kice does not have the qualifications to be a TGM Coach. That wraps it up, end of story.

[inFeZa]

Why are you guys still defending him?
He cheated, Provoked everyone and denied claims, Banned and punished.
Its over. Its done.

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	VB_Rhuubarb:	Yep, time for everyone to move on
	nirvAnA:
	breadfan:	No one is defending any wrongdoing that I can see.

[nGenLight]

He earnt his money fair and square, but he cheated to get into a position to earn his money. It is like paying for a degree, or getting other people to do your exams for you then getting a sick job. He shouldn't cough up the money because he earnt it with his own time and effort, but he did cheat other people who should have got those job opportunities. He should be stripped of his job/title/shamed and punished, but coughing up money he earnt himself? I don't think that's right.

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nirvAnA:

this. and all his students are actually satisfied as you can see

[nirvAnA]

What infeza & Light said, and what already has been done. Closed.

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VB_Rhuubarb:

Finally :D