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Old Wed, 27th-Jun-2012, 10:27 PM BnetId: 431  Race: Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 6 # 1
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dont think its a coincidence he moves his army up towards my obs then kills it, just doesnt randomly scan as he's walking back
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Old Fri, 29th-Jun-2012, 2:32 PM BnetId: Zam.891  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1 # 2
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Hacking? Analysis pls?

Just wanted to get some clarification on a game I just played. I am just starting to play more again and this was very strange.

1. Replay attached
2a) scouts my position first up after saying "ready to lose"
2b) 3.22 - moves his marine down the ramp to kill my scout probe
2c) 7.52 - scans my observer even though it is in fog of war over a screen away.

I am not certain but seems sus to me. feedback would be great so I can feel confident reporting them .

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Old Sat, 30th-Jun-2012, 5:11 PM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 3
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Found a gold league maphacker

http://drop.sc/210126

Doesn't scout at all (granted it's PvT & it's a 2 player map), and makes no effort to even get xel naga vision (being low league, not necessarily out of the ordinary)
5:30 looks directly at my incoming units through the fog of war, stops producing probes and starts preparing to deflect pressure
13:19 Looks directly at my army through the fog of war
~13:50 I decide to go via his 3rd and try to deny it if he has tried to expand, he pre-emptively moves his entire army to his 3rd and warps in more units to defend
17:05 decides to go to the xel naga tower to attack my floating factory, but doesn't try to retain vision
17:21 looks into the fog of war at my army again
19:30 grabs his entire army and positions them inside his main at exactly the place I am about to drop him
Then he tells me I should "scan before droing drops"

Anyway, I'm playing particularly poorly today for some reason so I almost feel reluctant yto post the rep :P, but this is so blatant I feel it should be out there.

Had a chat to him afterwards, he had this to say:

+ Show +

You: oh you maphack?
Mio has reconnected.
Mio: wat
You: well if you don't, you sure like looking at the position my base and army are in the fog of war
Mio: my muslim relgion doesnt allow me to cheat in any circumstance
You: haha
i dont mind man, im not like gonna rage
but how come you do it?
Mio: you wont rage, but if i did my god would reage
You: so is he raging now?
Mio: nope
bcoz i dont cheat
You: lol
Mio: ^^
You: dude
it's so obvious
shame
Mio: im just a good player
You: lol
Mio: i sensed a disturbance in the air
anyways
i nevrer hack
i hate hackers
dont even know where to download it lol
anyways, i gtg.. may allah be with you. always
Mio has disconnected.


Maybe I can get a fatwa put on him... Anyone know an imam?

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Old Mon, 9th-Jul-2012, 5:01 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 4
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Found a gold league maphacker

http://drop.sc/210126

Doesn't scout at all (granted it's PvT & it's a 2 player map), and makes no effort to even get xel naga vision (being low league, not necessarily out of the ordinary)
5:30 looks directly at my incoming units through the fog of war, stops producing probes and starts preparing to deflect pressure
13:19 Looks directly at my army through the fog of war
~13:50 I decide to go via his 3rd and try to deny it if he has tried to expand, he pre-emptively moves his entire army to his 3rd and warps in more units to defend
17:05 decides to go to the xel naga tower to attack my floating factory, but doesn't try to retain vision
17:21 looks into the fog of war at my army again
19:30 grabs his entire army and positions them inside his main at exactly the place I am about to drop him
Then he tells me I should "scan before droing drops"

Anyway, I'm playing particularly poorly today for some reason so I almost feel reluctant yto post the rep :P, but this is so blatant I feel it should be out there.

Had a chat to him afterwards, he had this to say:

+ Show +

You: oh you maphack?
Mio has reconnected.
Mio: wat
You: well if you don't, you sure like looking at the position my base and army are in the fog of war
Mio: my muslim relgion doesnt allow me to cheat in any circumstance
You: haha
i dont mind man, im not like gonna rage
but how come you do it?
Mio: you wont rage, but if i did my god would reage
You: so is he raging now?
Mio: nope
bcoz i dont cheat
You: lol
Mio: ^^
You: dude
it's so obvious
shame
Mio: im just a good player
You: lol
Mio: i sensed a disturbance in the air
anyways
i nevrer hack
i hate hackers
dont even know where to download it lol
anyways, i gtg.. may allah be with you. always
Mio has disconnected.


Maybe I can get a fatwa put on him... Anyone know an imam?
Replay analysis
http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/324130899

Conclusion
100% Map Hacker

3 proofs beyond doubt:
  • I can determine your troop position only by looking where he sends his army and where he looks in fog of war. It's not just 1 or twice, but maybe 10 times
  • Auto-blink individual stalkers when he select his gates. This one is enough to prove it alone.
  • Interception of your doom drop that he couldn't see coming.

The guy going directly to the proven hacker list.

I guess he is bound to go to hell now then.

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Old Sat, 30th-Jun-2012, 6:15 PM BnetId: Zeratul.523  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Seoul, Korea  Total Posts Made: 236 # 5
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Man some people just ruin this game haha.
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Old Sun, 1st-Jul-2012, 12:10 AM Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 351 # 6
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This guy is already on the list but i figure more evidence against his name can't hurt

i could tell he was hacking during the game, as he doesnt even try to hide it, but i went through the rep in his vision just to be 100% sure and here are some key moments which prove he can see everything on the minimap

-never scouts
-expands bravely
-6.50 FF on ramp is suspiciously quick
-11.50 goes to kill forward pylon
-13.20 wants to cancel 3rd
-14.40 goes to kill forward pylon
-16.10 as army moves out with obs, sends in dt
-17.00 as he sees my army move back to defend the dt, goes directly to kill 2 forward pylons

http://drop.sc/210189

This guy is also a giant c.unt, i have him ignored but what he said at the start of the game is clearly just bait to start being racist to asians -_-

theres some suspicion between eople that this guy could be zanooku/ziek as hes racist, stupid, protoss, masters, and pretty f.ucking bad (cant even win when he has vision of the entire map in a mirror matchup)

it may not be him as i have never played zanooku so i cant compare hotkeys on sc2gears but it wouldnt be an unreasonable assumption to think its him so if anyone has reps of him and nothing to do maybe go check it out to see if the most hated little kid in sea is actually a hacker aswell as a hateful racist.

hope none of u have the displeasure of facing him on ladder
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Originally Posted by TekChampi View Post
This guy is already on the list but i figure more evidence against his name can't hurt

i could tell he was hacking during the game, as he doesnt even try to hide it, but i went through the rep in his vision just to be 100% sure and here are some key moments which prove he can see everything on the minimap

-never scouts
-expands bravely
-6.50 FF on ramp is suspiciously quick
-11.50 goes to kill forward pylon
-13.20 wants to cancel 3rd
-14.40 goes to kill forward pylon
-16.10 as army moves out with obs, sends in dt
-17.00 as he sees my army move back to defend the dt, goes directly to kill 2 forward pylons

http://drop.sc/210189

This guy is also a giant c.unt, i have him ignored but what he said at the start of the game is clearly just bait to start being racist to asians -_-

theres some suspicion between eople that this guy could be zanooku/ziek as hes racist, stupid, protoss, masters, and pretty f.ucking bad (cant even win when he has vision of the entire map in a mirror matchup)

it may not be him as i have never played zanooku so i cant compare hotkeys on sc2gears but it wouldnt be an unreasonable assumption to think its him so if anyone has reps of him and nothing to do maybe go check it out to see if the most hated little kid in sea is actually a hacker aswell as a hateful racist.

hope none of u have the displeasure of facing him on ladder

omg this guy...

me and WTB both faced him on ladder last night and were greeted with slurrs about koreans and a shortage of food in korean where he said we supposedly lived.

overall he's a massive c.unt and i wouldn't be at all suprised if he hacked although i didn't bother to look at the replay.,
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Old Sun, 1st-Jul-2012, 12:20 PM BnetId: Malice 845  Race: Clan: XL  Location: Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia  Total Posts Made: 347 # 8
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Originally Posted by TekChampi View Post
This guy is already on the list but i figure more evidence against his name can't hurt

i could tell he was hacking during the game, as he doesnt even try to hide it, but i went through the rep in his vision just to be 100% sure and here are some key moments which prove he can see everything on the minimap

-never scouts
-expands bravely
-6.50 FF on ramp is suspiciously quick
-11.50 goes to kill forward pylon
-13.20 wants to cancel 3rd
-14.40 goes to kill forward pylon
-16.10 as army moves out with obs, sends in dt
-17.00 as he sees my army move back to defend the dt, goes directly to kill 2 forward pylons

http://drop.sc/210189

This guy is also a giant c.unt, i have him ignored but what he said at the start of the game is clearly just bait to start being racist to asians -_-

theres some suspicion between eople that this guy could be zanooku/ziek as hes racist, stupid, protoss, masters, and pretty f.ucking bad (cant even win when he has vision of the entire map in a mirror matchup)

it may not be him as i have never played zanooku so i cant compare hotkeys on sc2gears but it wouldnt be an unreasonable assumption to think its him so if anyone has reps of him and nothing to do maybe go check it out to see if the most hated little kid in sea is actually a hacker aswell as a hateful racist.

hope none of u have the displeasure of facing him on ladder
Not like we can possibly punish him more than we already have if he is maphacking, but I'd say it's not zan anyway.
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Old Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 6:35 PM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 9
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Originally Posted by TekChampi View Post
This guy is already on the list but i figure more evidence against his name can't hurt

i could tell he was hacking during the game, as he doesnt even try to hide it, but i went through the rep in his vision just to be 100% sure and here are some key moments which prove he can see everything on the minimap

-never scouts
-expands bravely
-6.50 FF on ramp is suspiciously quick
-11.50 goes to kill forward pylon
-13.20 wants to cancel 3rd
-14.40 goes to kill forward pylon
-16.10 as army moves out with obs, sends in dt
-17.00 as he sees my army move back to defend the dt, goes directly to kill 2 forward pylons

http://drop.sc/210189

This guy is also a giant c.unt, i have him ignored but what he said at the start of the game is clearly just bait to start being racist to asians -_-

theres some suspicion between eople that this guy could be zanooku/ziek as hes racist, stupid, protoss, masters, and pretty f.ucking bad (cant even win when he has vision of the entire map in a mirror matchup)

it may not be him as i have never played zanooku so i cant compare hotkeys on sc2gears but it wouldnt be an unreasonable assumption to think its him so if anyone has reps of him and nothing to do maybe go check it out to see if the most hated little kid in sea is actually a hacker aswell as a hateful racist.

hope none of u have the displeasure of facing him on ladder
for the record...
i hit ziek a couple of times in 2v2 last night, i mentioned that people are calling him a hacker (as i killed him with a cannon rush he didn't scout, then a 10 pool he didn't wall off vs...):
he called me a slanty eyed ****, then found this post, he said it is him, but you'd have to be retarded to think that's evidence of hacking and he doesn't hack. he then suggested i learn how to stop squinting.
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Old Sun, 1st-Jul-2012, 12:30 AM BnetId: ToRDanO.347  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 134 # 10
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Very obvious maphacker on NA server. I really don't like accusing people of cheating ... but this is the most obvious maphacker I've ever seen before ...... http://drop.sc/210205

There's really not much I can say .... just watch the replay, and you will see

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Very obvious maphacker on NA server. I really don't like accusing people of cheating ... but this is the most obvious maphacker I've ever seen before ...... http://drop.sc/210205

There's really not much I can say .... just watch the replay, and you will see

no question that he is hacking and he still lost what a bloody twat.
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Very obvious maphacker on NA server. I really don't like accusing people of cheating ... but this is the most obvious maphacker I've ever seen before ...... http://drop.sc/210205

There's really not much I can say .... just watch the replay, and you will see

WOW.. He's so good at the game that he needs maphacks to find out where you spawn on a 2-player map.

Nice marine micro btw.. very sexy.

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Old Mon, 9th-Jul-2012, 5:24 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 13
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Very obvious maphacker on NA server. I really don't like accusing people of cheating ... but this is the most obvious maphacker I've ever seen before ...... http://drop.sc/210205

There's really not much I can say .... just watch the replay, and you will see
Please, you must still do a replay analysis of it even if it's obvious. It eases our work of verification and gives ground to accusations.

Replay analysis
http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/324134431

Conclusion
He's a Map Hacker:
  • He reacts to your 2 proxy barrack by attacking the SCVs that build them without scouting anything with 2 drones.
  • Reacting with a Forge first even before seeing them
  • Reacting to your army movements on the map without seing it.

Placed on the Hacker list.

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Every time you play this guy, you MUST report him for Map Hacking and racism. Every game played by SEA people. If Blizzard receive 10 reports a day about someone they will act for sure.
Ask the players he plays before he plays you to do so too.
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Just a heads up, due to personal commitments I will not be able to maintain this thread anymore, so the ownership of the OP has been passed to Nemo, and he will make the final call regarding all maphacking cases.

Nemo has been an integral part of sussing out most of the maphackers in this thread, and we have utmost confidence in his ability to continue to be the beacon of justice in this thread.

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Thanks for the confidence :)
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we need to make some huge bnet post so that blizzard can actually deal with these bastards. props to nemo and others for always looking out for these cheats!
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Player name is lkerbs, a Protoss. Sends a probe straight to my base on TDA and does a 2 gate proxy in my base without scouting my location first.
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It didn't record well sorry, so no video.

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http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1725

Player name is lkerbs, a Protoss. Sends a probe straight to my base on TDA and does a 2 gate proxy in my base without scouting my location first.
Conclusion
lkerbs "guess" where his opponent is without scouting anything nor even trying to spot the creep, witch would be quite safe to do without being spoted himself. This is already extremely suspicious.

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Backing up what Pickle says.
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1726
Same guy Ikerbs
He tried to cannon rush me the game before but failed. This time was a proxy 2 gate that I should have won.
Instantly sends probe to my base and builds a proxy pylon, at least I had the decent curtsey to check if my opponent was there.

Looking at his match history he's done nothing but cannon rushes and proxy 2 gates.

Edit: He actually clicks solely on my base and no where else, even go to the proxy location instantly. This was on Entombed btw so there were 3 possible spawn points.
Conclusion
Another game where he successfully "guess" where his opponent is.

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Ikerbs or ikerbs not sure- map hacking

He/She blind cannon rushes me on a shipyard(3 possible spawn locations for me).
They even dodge my scouting probe that they can't see.
No doubt in my mind at all.

Apparently he has a masters account call Lkerbs as well.
So if you have played that player you might want to check your replays.
Conclusion
A third game where he knows where his opponent is.

The formal proof is given by TwoGee. The dodging of opponent probe he can't see is blatant enough.

He's placed on the proven Hacker list.
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Backing up what Pickle says.
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1726
Same guy Ikerbs
He tried to cannon rush me the game before but failed. This time was a proxy 2 gate that I should have won.
Instantly sends probe to my base and builds a proxy pylon, at least I had the decent curtsey to check if my opponent was there.

Looking at his match history he's done nothing but cannon rushes and proxy 2 gates.

Edit: He actually clicks solely on my base and no where else, even go to the proxy location instantly. This was on Entombed btw so there were 3 possible spawn points.
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