[Peleus]

Seriously Chobo, can you please start addressing specific points raised by numerous people in the thread? So far they have been one line comments about games not addressing anything or other vague remarks. Especially considering you were going to "respond to everyone".

I know for sure if someone accused me of hacking I'd have my entire season's worth of replays uploaded and answering specific points anyone raised as soon as humanly possible.

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	nirvAnA:
	syfPhoenix:

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Originally Posted by Peleus

Seriously Chobo, can you please start addressing specific points raised by numerous people in the thread? So far they have been one line comments about games not addressing anything or other vague remarks. Especially considering you were going to "respond to everyone".

I know for sure if someone accused me of hacking I'd have my entire season's worth of replays uploaded and answering specific points anyone raised as soon as humanly possible.

What i pretty much wanted to say, Rossi & Mafia have clearly spent a decent amount of time going over these replays to help build their evidence of your suspicious 'playing style'. The least you can do is explain your side of the story which you have not yet done, you've just been picking out irrelevant posts in the topic and given far from reasonable answers.

You're being accused of hacking. You've obviously spent a shitload of time playing this game given your GM status. I just can't comprehend why you aren't agressively defending yourself if all these accusations have no weight behind them.

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I disagree with everyone saying he should be 'aggressively' defending himself. If you know you didn't hack, and everyone was accusing you of hacking because you had just won something, because I'm pretty sure no one has ever made this much of a fuss about CHobo before hand, any smart person would just ignore them, hell, they were even talking about this on SotG. Why the hell would you respond when all it's going to do is put more fuel into the fire and more reasons for people to accuse you?

Anyways, everyone in this thread bar Mafia really has no right to accuse CHobo, most of you guys are probably just upset because he has beaten you in the past, you guys really shouldn't be talking at all with emotions clouding your judgement.

I decided to have a look at the Shakuras replay and give my thoughts.

6:12 sees 2 spines and 2 queens, pulls back everything

we had a discussion with terrans and zergs, if you see 2 spines and 2 queens you still commit cause this usually means the zerg has no units, and 20 scvs 14 marines kills queens without energy and spines really fast. At this point Mafia was pumping out lings and had speed almost finished. Chobo did not see the lings.

This is probably the most suspicious piece of evidence anyone has presented. Yeah, it was a ridiculous move to pull back, but let's analyse what could have been going through his mind. You pretty much have 3 options in the situation;

1) Attack with the 8 marines and SCV you have directly there. He'd probably lose the majority of his marines, which makes the all-in void anyways
2) He waits for his scv's to catch up, probably another 5-6 seconds, at this point he can assume Mafia could have banelings or speed lings or more units to defend
3) He pulls back, extremely behind, but still in the game.

Even at around 5:30 when his camera flicks to mafia's base as the baneling nest is building, the camera stops at the un-taken gas, the bane nest is hardly in view, surely the hack would centre on the building?

7:05 kinda suspect that he keeps calm and and doesnt raise his supply depots when the ling counter attack is coming. Imo, he knows exactly how many lings are coming. He even keeps one of his raxes lifted, when in reality a ton of lings and banelings could be coming and that would mean game over.


Probably the most baseless accusation in this thread. He doesn't even scout the attack coming, the lings run in before his rax has a chance to land, and his depots are down to allow movement of his scv to build the CC on the low ground. What you are saying here is, oh, he knows the amount of lings because he hacks and wants to kill them, when in reality, he hasn't scouted anything, has barracks about to land and completely wall off, therefore there is no need to keep his depots up.


11:50 takes the 6o clock expand, cause he knows that mafia is making infestors, chobo has 2 engineering bays but no turrets, still havent scanned or scouted mafias base.

Nothing really to say here, while this does look suss, it can also be pinned down to CHobo taking a huge risk, which he is extremely fond of. You can't really deny this isn't down a fuckton in all sorts of games when someone is behind and wants to take a risk. This could also be put down to CHobo playing Mafia a bunch and knowing his play style, which I know for a fact he has, because he sends me his replays because I really like to analyse mafia's play style and learn some tips, so he could have assumed no mutas.

12:50 lifts up his wall, makes reactors, and takes the 4th. He has no idea what Mafia is doing ( this is also the timing where a ling bling muta attack would happen) , chobo has no tanks and is sitting calm with his marines.

Not really seeing how this is any indication here, a lot of terrans do this, he has tanks coming out as he is going to secure that base, at worse the zerg attacks and makes him lift that base, he still has a third up and running, he has medivacs coming out too and upgrades finishing.

14:00 Was gonna send 2 drop ships to mafias main,but knows that mafia has that covered with overlords, he sends them to mafias 5th that was about to be made, he sends the drop so mafias overlord doesnt see it.

Yeah, while this does look suss, once again we can just pin this down to a change of mind decision, maybe he wants to deny/scout for that fifth? As the previous person mentions, if he did hack, he would see the ovie and the ling on patrol.

15:10 mafias great spire is building, chobo ( still has no map vision or knows what mafia is doing) scans mafias main, and then his natural. Right after he drops 3 starports. Imo he does this so it doesnt look suspect.

He scans around 15:10, which most terrans would agree is a good timing. And then he responds once he sees the tech. This is one of those stupid accusations again.

16:45 stims a bunch of units to avoid mafia burrowing his ling at the 5th base. Makes a turret too to avoid burrowed infestors.

He sees the ling kill his scv, how is there anything wrong with this?

18:20 hits the money scan right on top of all of mafias unit and spines(3rd time he scanned this game)[/COLOR]

He scans in a generic spot where zergs almost always keep their army when not advancing, he also has vision and sees nothing, once again, nothing wrong here.

19:10 chobo has a sensor tower, mafia backs, chobo follows the units in the fog, moves the vikings to kill the broods and then scans. (thats not how its supposed to be done)


He knows broods are there because he sees them in sensor range, they are the slowest moving units, easy to distinguish, so he sends vikings after them, then scans to make sure he doesn't get caught by festors.

from 19:30 – 20:30 he has no map control even though he could easily claim it with marines (in theory) then he drops two scans sees everything.

Another one of those, he does this to throw us off his trail. He has hardly any army and has a sensor tower there to see if the army is coming, he also knows that it's infested with creep there, why risk moving his army forward when there's creep everywhere when he can sit where it is, build it up a bit more while still defending the majority of his bases.


21:20 repositions his units when mafia is moving out, doesnt spread his units at all even though there are red dots on the mini map from the sensor towers ( I would be ******* afraid of the infestors)

As someone mentioned, he is macro'ing previously to this, and sieges up as soon as he sees the lings popping out on the edge of the FoW.

25:00 hits money scan[/COLOR]

Sees the army in the sensor tower, and scans to see what Mafia has.