[Delraich]

Originally Posted by ToREchoFive

this is what im using atm.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...dUT!ZXV!aaZZZZ

basically the point is to get 5 stacks of soul harvest (which gives ridiculous extra dmg + heals) then spam dire bats, which have massive burst dmg and aoe through packs.

zombie to tank and spirit walk to get mana back and evade if required.

any idea if this is at all on track? it doesn't work at that well in boss fights as most of them you cant get 5 stacks but for general play the damage is actually stupid.

I think this is actually a really good way to go. From what I have read, the soul harvest is there to trigger the very high intelligence which in turn makes your DPS insane. How can you easily trigger 5 mobs? Alot of people seem to use the spirit walk to get in/ out of the 5 mobs safely (with the added bonus that this spell has a cool down). Now what? You need a high DPS spell and dire bats seems to be really good choice for this but this spell costs a lot of mana to maintain. I have seen builds involving the highest DPS bats (hungry which is 280%) rather than the one you have chosen. So how are you going to pay for all these bats? The passive most people use in this build is Vision Quest (4 spells on cool down triggers 300% mana regen). The rest of the build involves having spells that have cool downs (e.g. grasp of the dead). Because it is a fairly high maintenance style of play and you need to keep 4 of your spells on permanent cool down so your mana is flowing so you can pay for the bats.

Btw. I read this regarding stats for a WD:
Stack int + life regen on hit + vit and make a VERY hard to die WD...or
Int+crit hit%+ crit dmg%= and make a guy that drops 70k and up crits 40% of the time

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Originally Posted by Delraich

I think this is actually a really good way to go. From what I have read, the soul harvest is there to trigger the very high intelligence which in turn makes your DPS insane. How can you easily trigger 5 mobs? Alot of people seem to use the spirit walk to get in/ out of the 5 mobs safely (with the added bonus that this spell has a cool down). Now what? You need a high DPS spell and dire bats seems to be really good choice for this but this spell costs a lot of mana to maintain. I have seen builds involving the highest DPS bats (hungry which is 280%) rather than the one you have chosen. So how are you going to pay for all these bats? The passive most people use in this build is Vision Quest (4 spells on cool down triggers 300% mana regen). The rest of the build involves having spells that have cool downs (e.g. grasp of the dead). Because it is a fairly high maintenance style of play and you need to keep 4 of your spells on permanent cool down so your mana is flowing so you can pay for the bats.

Btw. I read this regarding stats for a WD:
Stack int + life regen on hit + vit and make a VERY hard to die WD...or
Int+crit hit%+ crit dmg%= and make a guy that drops 70k and up crits 40% of the time

Ah ok that sounds good. It would be good to find a way to have constant bats, I use the Dire bats because they shoot THROUGH packs as well, Im only up to NM act 1 but im yet to find a pack of mobs thats not dead before I run out of mana. I might play around with other bats, but the diminished range might leave me with no mana and in the middle of mobs so thats a bit scary.

In terms of running in to get a 5 mob soul harvest, i have been literally using grasp of the dead, running to the edge of the pack, using harvest and running back, then shooting dire bats all through them. sometimes i use spirit walk if things get hairy to get out. It feels pretty inefficient but i guess there needs to be some difficulty involved to unlock such high dmg. then once i get 5 stacks, they generally last me about 3 packs of mobs before i have to do it again, which heals me back to full again too, so its usually pretty well timed.

I havent got that vision quest spell yet, but that sounds like it might be the way to go, with the mana regen spirit walk as well, I would constantly have 4 spells on CD pretty easily. thanks for the feedback im going to play around with it more as i go through NM today