[lolwut]

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Sice i'm hitting top plat i'm vsing diamonds on a regular basis and games are going against me around 40/60 And sometimes i feel like i have been completely outplayed and i don't know how. Please help.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by lolwut

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=580

Sice i'm hitting top plat i'm vsing diamonds on a regular basis and games are going against me around 40/60 And sometimes i feel like i have been completely outplayed and i don't know how. Please help.

lolwut vs Chazzex

League :
Map : Shakuras Plateau
Length : 22:25
Version 1.4.2

Replay Analysis

• 4:49 : If you steal gas, you don't want to finish it as a will need 2 marines to kills it if you keep stoping it and rebuilding it. And the don't want to make another marine since he is making reactored hellions.

• 6:30 : Bad Simcity. You need that queen to block the gaps. That tumor was very bad placed since it let a gap in your wall. You need some glings behind your spines if you put them there to block the hellions. if not put the 2 spines behind like in a map with no ramp to the nat.

• 6:52 : What a blunder, let that spine on top of your ramp, that's his job, not running in the wild !

• 7:08 : You loose 8 drones and more are going to die. You have lost the game already.

• 7:23 : The queen is killed by the hellions

• 7: 51 : 13 drones killed and a Queen for 5 hellions. You can't win the game against a player of your level after that.

• 10:12 : Simcity the low ground of your ramp, I guess that was your initial idea. Don't do that because:
  • Runby as you see are easier in the timing you do it
  • Tanks will easily destroy all that because they won't be protected by the high ground
  • Queen is away from the hatch so more walk to go inject
  • You don't really gain much creep by doing it
  • You're more vulnerable to drops

• No queen at your main, so no inject and as you have no third, neither macro hatch, you don't have enough larvae by a looooong way. Make a queen always for your 3 first hatches, always, always, always ans hotkey them.

• No speed for Banelings and neither for Roaches and your army is not going to fight on creep. Always fight on creep whenever you can.

• 13:02 : What do you think you can do with such a weak army vs a terran that hasn't lost nearly anithing at 13 minutes into the game. Use your units to defend, they will be more efficient and macro like hell to close up the macro gap between you and him.

• 15:02 : He push with 20 more army food, one more base, 20 more workers and 3 CC. At that point I don't get why that game has lasted 7 more minutes.

• Nice muta play that make him fumble and he doesn't split his marines . But you're too far behind already it is only a matter of time.

• 21:23 : Now he makes it right and you loose.

Strong points

• You're a nice opponent and have good sportmanship. I like it.
• Nice muta-gling bling play

What could be improved

• Better Simcity your base (see streams).
• When behind take another base and gamble a bit by droning and defending.
• Don't attack a walled natural if not really ahead in army.

Keep training, you're on the right road.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Nemo

• 4:49 : If you steal gas, you don't want to finish it as a will need 2 marines to kills it if you keep stoping it and rebuilding it. And the don't want to make another marine since he is making reactored hellions.

I think the only time the terran will make only a single marine is if you go gas first reactor hellion, which you can't even really afford to expand very fast behind. You always get at least 2 marines, and then either make a third or wait for 50 gas to tick over.


I think iaguz makes the third marine there, and I've fallen in love with doing it as with 3 marines you can push out and easily clean up 4 lings... on big maps you will often even deny drone scouting, so just seeing 3 marines pushing out and deny lings seeing the reactor/factory can throw zergs off.


kinda off-topic with regards to ZvT, but there should always be more than one marine out there.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

[/LIST]I think the only time the terran will make only a single marine is if you go gas first reactor hellion, which you can't even really afford to expand very fast behind. You always get at least 2 marines, and then either make a third or wait for 50 gas to tick over.


I think iaguz makes the third marine there, and I've fallen in love with doing it as with 3 marines you can push out and easily clean up 4 lings... on big maps you will often even deny drone scouting, so just seeing 3 marines pushing out and deny lings seeing the reactor/factory can throw zergs off.


kinda off-topic with regards to ZvT, but there should always be more than one marine out there.

Not off-topic at all ! Discussion about those analysis are most welcomed (at least it proves they are read ). Those are not meant to be the only truth but more guidelines and enlightenments on the game. Complementary comments are at least as useful as I do.

On the subject, I agree, refinery first reactored hellions means only one marine. Here there were only one marine indeed before the reactor but I don't remember if it was because of refinery first or messed BO by the . Even if there are more than one marine, if they are shooting at the building refinery they won't be chasing ovies or isolated glings. It also give you more insight of what he does. You also can cancel and then try to run to scout a little more.

So always cancel your gas as long as you can.