SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site


  • Home
  • About
  • Streams
  • Features
  • Tournaments
  • Forums
SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site > Starcraft 2 Tournaments > Completed Featured Tournaments > Nation War Season 2 Sponsored by Neolution > SEA Nation Wars 2 Begins...
About Us
An Overview of sc2sea
About Us
Contact us
Join our team!
Features
Live Streams
Replays
SEABets
Site Achievements
Articles
Article Archive
Who's Who
sc2sea.com Weekly Tournaments
Tournaments
Every Saturday BSG Open - (Bronze, Silver, Gold)
Every Sunday GPD Open - (Gold, Platinum, Diamond)
Monthly Sunday Masters Cup
Oseanic Championship Series 2015
Point Standings
The Grandmaster Manual
1. Introduction
2. Basics
3. Advanced
4. Anti-Cheese
5. Protoss
6. Zerg
7. Terran
8. Summary
9. Bonus Content!
Coaching
TGM Member Only Forums
TGM Official Coaches
Misc
Help us Rate TGM!!
Suggest what you'll like to see!
Need help? Contact Support!
Community Links
Members List
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Search Downloads
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Community
House Clans
Clans
No recent threads.
Community
No recent threads.
Tournaments
No recent threads.
Latest Blogs New
tier list of people...
asdfSchnitzel
My Life Was Turned...
Sc2Clare
I've been playing...
SLCN.Wally
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
General
Stickied Threads
No recent threads.
General Threads
No recent threads.
StarCraft II
Starcraft General
No recent threads.
Strategy Discussion
No recent threads.
BSG Discussion
No recent threads.
Other Games
Other Games
No recent threads.
Sports
No recent threads.
News
News Archive
No recent threads.
Tournament News
No recent threads.
Articles Archive
Replays
Photo Gallery
Mark all forums as read
 
Display Modes
Thread Tools
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Unread Thu, 23rd-Jun-2011, 1:45 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 19
deL
deL's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 35
Best Article Presentation (2011)
Seasoned Tournament PlayerLetters to CleoThe GatekeeperCruel EntertainerCommunity Builder
Achievements (5)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeen View Post
What wild is trying to get at, and explain about the BW Proleague format, is that it's not bo1 - it's bo7 with 7 (6+ace) different players. Rather than averaging the skill of two individuals and comparing it via bo3, you're comparing the skill of the entire team through bo7s. Part of the skill of teamleagues is preparing lineups, practicing certain matchups, and exploiting the fact that each player can only contribute once.

A lot of the 'epic' of proleague is because of the fact each player only has one contributing game to the team, resulting in extremely high-tension situations.
I understood what he means, but still reject it. Bo3 is just as exciting everyone just has this idea in their head that because it's bo1 it's more exciting - turning a game around from 0-1 down against an opponent you are favoured against, or the game going 1-1 to a deciding match, etc. is just as exciting as watching good players get cheesed out every game.

I still think requiring 7 players is going to result in some walkovers which kills any excitement there was anyway.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeen View Post
I'm going to give a concise example:

MMA vs MC, GSTL game 7 betwen oGs and SlayerS. MC in a series at that time is heavily favored. Yet the game was incredibly exciting because it was so pivotal, and because MMA pulled out all the stops to clinch a win.

Spectators don't want to see the superior player get lots of chances to conservatively clean up. They want to see underdogs come out and try to pull something wild to upset their superior opponent, while the set is still not a disappointing league upset because it's bo7 team vs team.

Individual leagues and team leagues both give multiple games per set to fairly decide the better competitor. Similarly, like a single player might have many strategies to select for their games, a team has different players to send out. Same concept, larger scale - and Proleague has always run effectively on the system.

That's not to say the bo5 of bo3s doesn't work, but I'd definitely argue it lacks the same degree of spectator appeal.
Spectators only wanna see upsets? Really? I'd say a bigger pull is seeing the best of the best but OK. I know all-kill format etc can be exciting but we have events like the GSTL clone to fill this niche of team competition. These NationWars only come around once in a while and should be more epic than your standard clan comps, not just some cheap thrills made by making the format more conducive to cheesing.

Also like I said, you will probably find that Bo7 is actually going to make MORE one-sided games as the depth of weaker teams is stretched.

In the end it's the sponsor's call about how long they want their tourney to be streamed anyway.
___________________________________
Brendan "TAdeL" Ferguson
Clan TA | Twitter | YouTube
deL is offline Send a message via Skype™ to deL   OLD POST Reply With Quote
deL
View Public Profile
Send a private message to deL
Find all posts by deL

 

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
View All Posts View All
Linear Mode Switch to Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
King Of SEA Nation Wars Week 4 Recap, Results and Replays nirvAnA Nation War Season 1 0 Mon, 11th-Oct-2010 2:33 PM
King Of SEA Nation Wars Week 5 Recap, Results and Replays nirvAnA Nation War Season 1 0 Mon, 11th-Oct-2010 2:32 PM
King Of SEA Nation Wars Week 6 Recap, Results and Replays nirvAnA Nation War Season 1 0 Mon, 11th-Oct-2010 2:32 PM
King Of SEA Nation Wars Week 3 Recap, Results and Replays nirvAnA Nation War Season 1 0 Mon, 11th-Oct-2010 2:32 PM
King Of SEA Nation Wars Week 1 Recap, Results and Replays nirvAnA Nation War Season 1 0 Mon, 11th-Oct-2010 2:31 PM

Events
Upcoming Events Add
No events scheduled in
the next 7 days.
OSC SEA Participation Bonus
Live Streams
No streams online.
Open SEABets
No open bets.
2015 OSEANIC Series
Latest Results
Americas Open #110 KeeN
OSC SEA Weekly #24 Probe
SC2Online Comm Open #38 aLive
February EU Ladder Heroes Nerchio
February NA Ladder Heroes TRUE
ANZ Cup #12 iaguz
Filthy NA Weekly #16 Semper
Proxy Tempest Open #43 PiLiPiLi
Top 20 OSC Rankings
1ByuN
2Seither
3DemiLove
4PiLiPiLi
5Kelazhur
6Cham
7iaguz
8aLive
9Solar
10KeeN
11EnDerr
12KingkOng
13TRUE
14GuMiho
15Probe
16puCK
17Snute
18PandaBearMe
19PiG
20Ryung
Full Point Standings
Earn extra points with Challenge Matches!
Bounties
Defeat these players and collect the $'s!
ByuN$100
INnoVation$75
Solar$75
Neeb$60
herO$50
GuMiho$50
Nerchio$50
TRUE$50
uThermal$50
Kelazhur$40
MajOr$40
Scarlett$40
Snute$40
aLive$30
Bly$30
iAsonu$30
KeeN$30
PiLiPiLi$30
puCK$30
Ryung$30
Cham$25
Cyan$25
iaguz$25
Guru$25
Seither$25
Semper$25
JonSnow$15
PandaBearMe$15
Probe$15
Latest Collected
Yours 2-0 Neeb $60
SC2ONLINE Comm Open #38
Azure 2-0 Seither $25
ANZ Cup #12
Cham 2-0 Cyan $25
OSC All Stars #24
FuturE 2-0 KeeN $30
ESL Americas Open #109
Donations
Donate using Paypal!

Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.
Home - Contact Us - FAQ - Members List - Advertise - Terms of Service - Top - Mobile-friendly (alpha)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The contents of this webpage are copyright of sc2sea.com © 2010-2015. All Rights Reserved.
The Grandmaster Manual is a Starcraft 2 Guide created and owned by sc2sea.com
Starcraft2 is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, this is a community fan site and no infringement is intended.
Custom artwork by Zeus, Banner designed by Cute, other artworks is used with permission with credits listed here. vBulletin skin by CompletevB.com