Phoenix esports failure to pay player contract + tournament winnings!
The scam that is phoenix esports!
Hello,
Some of you might know me and some might not, nevertheless im here to expose the scammer that is pXTroy.
I recently joined the Australian team Phoenix esports, they were eager to make an contract with me first for 3 months, promising me a starting salary in the contract, in this thread I will shortly explain the way this pXTroy guy lied to me several times and did not end up holding his end at all. When I was joining the team I actually mentioned to him that I was previously in an european team that ended up not paying what they were supposed to me, sadly in midlevel teams in esports there is alot of scamming like this going on. He told me this would never happen in phoenix esports. At the end of the first Month when I asked first to recieve the salary there were some "delays" supposedly the money was coming from another guy supporting phoenix esports, some guy called James who was also a part of phoenix esports.
[8/29/2013 16:10:57] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): James has told me he can only pay $100 right now but can pay the other $100 on wednesday
[8/29/2013 16:11:00] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): is that okay?
[8/29/2013 16:11:33] Matti Bäckström: thats okay
[8/29/2013 16:11:51] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Sorry about that, he forgot how late in the month it was
[8/29/2013 16:12:00] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): he will send the $100 tomorrow morning
[8/30/2013 17:04:48] Matti Bäckström: whatsup...
[8/31/2013 3:29:57] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Hey, has James sent the $100?
[8/31/2013 3:45:44] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): I'm away from home at the moment so sorry about missing your messages last night
[8/31/2013 8:23:26] Matti Bäckström: nope, he didnt
[8/31/2013 10:03:44] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Did you get it sorted out?
[8/31/2013 10:06:09] Matti Bäckström: he said he would do it but nothing happened
[8/31/2013 10:09:55] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Sigh
[8/31/2013 10:09:59] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): ill get onto him
[8/31/2013 10:10:07] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Sorry about this
[8/31/2013 11:25:47] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): hey
[8/31/2013 11:25:53] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): I believe its been sent now?
[8/31/2013 11:35:54] Matti Bäckström: 50... ?
[8/31/2013 11:35:58] Matti Bäckström: he sent only 50 ?
At this point he was also actually considering picking up ANOTHER player with a salary, amazing...
[9/3/2013 16:36:11] Matti Bäckström: btw
[9/3/2013 16:36:18] Matti Bäckström: about the jersey?
[9/3/2013 16:36:20] Matti Bäckström: whats the situation
[9/4/2013 10:03:25] Matti Bäckström: .... thx for answering, and he still didnt send the money btw
[9/4/2013 10:03:35] Matti Bäckström: this is what I was talking about before I joined
[9/4/2013 10:03:46] Matti Bäckström: when I was talking about some earlier teams
Also some talk about Jersey which I never actually recieved, doubt anyone else did either, this was the first time he decided not to answer to me, magically he had fell "asleep"
[9/5/2013 11:05:28] Matti Bäckström: this feels like a really long day
[9/5/2013 11:07:34] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Has he still not sent it?
[9/5/2013 11:07:36] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): For **** sake
[9/5/2013 11:10:39] Matti Bäckström: nop he didnt send it ...
[9/5/2013 11:11:20] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Ahh ill call him again, his going through a divorce with his wife so his been pretty busy. But he has said he will pay for like 2 days now
[9/5/2013 11:11:25] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Im sorry about this
[9/5/2013 11:12:18] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Btw PXL Qualifier 2 is on in 1 hour and 15 minutes
[9/5/2013 11:12:22] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): just so you do remember
[9/5/2013 11:12:27] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): are you still playing in it?
[9/5/2013 11:12:29] Matti Bäckström: His problems should not really affect me to be honest, with not getting the money in time now I have problems
[9/5/2013 11:13:10] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): I agree, I've asked him to send it for 2 days. if you don't have within the next 2 hours ill pay it
To this date he has still not paid it himself
[9/5/2013 15:10:06] Matti Bäckström: will you send that money before end of today?
[9/5/2013 15:22:09] Matti Bäckström: this is getting really tiresome, you remember the past teams I spoke of ?
[9/5/2013 15:22:19] Matti Bäckström: this time I will not stand by and watch the same happen again
[9/5/2013 15:24:26] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): Sorry was watching the stream
[9/5/2013 15:24:40] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): like i said earlier if its not in by 11 (30 minutes) then ill get it
[9/6/2013 16:09:22] Matti Bäckström: ??
[9/6/2013 16:09:26] Matti Bäckström: what seems to be the problem
[9/6/2013 16:09:28] Matti Bäckström: why do you keep lying to me
[9/6/2013 16:09:34] Matti Bäckström: there is still nothing in my paypal
Long 2 hours ;D
[9/8/2013 11:56:02] Matti Bäckström: yes
[9/8/2013 11:57:01] Matti Bäckström: so you will not pay it up ?
[9/8/2013 11:58:05] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): I will try, i honestly have like $20 my self at the moment
[9/8/2013 11:58:53] Troy Lonergan (pXtRoy ): And without me borrowing money of someone i should have another $130 (to pay your $150) by about Wednesday so thats the earliest i can pay MY SELF
I also heard there is other people aswell he has had delays with or has not paid at all, he also forgot my paypal like 4 times and at one point didnt even remember how much he was supposed to pay to me. After the problems appeared he kept ignoring and fake afking me alot, he will certainly try to reply to this thread that it was this "JAMES" guy who was supposed to pay, but im pretty sure from these messages
everyone can see that he still quaranteed to pay it himself, afterwards realizing he could not do it at all. So as a warning to anyone who is going to any business or dealings with this person, should watch out, you're about to be lied to!
Also I've met alot of scammers like this before, this is a very typical way in midlevel esports teams were the sponsors or such pay to the managers, the managers then keep the money to themselves, maybe send a little part of the money to where
its actually supposed to go, but keep the majority to themselves and then claim to the players/ tournament winners or such that they never acutally recieve it themselves, sadly most of the time even the sponsors are not aware of this.
Im sad that this had to happen I was eager to get to know the Australian scene abit better, qualifying to pxl season 1 and all, sadly I've also decided not to play that aswell since mr troy is also a part of running that tournament, most likely again
keeping the money in his own pockets and continuing his little scam.
ps. excuse my grammar mistakes, english is not my primary language
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