SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site


  • Home
  • About
  • Streams
  • Features
  • Tournaments
  • Forums
SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site > Starcraft 2 Discussion > Community > Zerg is so Broken
About Us
An Overview of sc2sea
About Us
Contact us
Join our team!
Features
Live Streams
Replays
SEABets
Site Achievements
Articles
Article Archive
Who's Who
sc2sea.com Weekly Tournaments
Tournaments
Every Saturday BSG Open - (Bronze, Silver, Gold)
Every Sunday GPD Open - (Gold, Platinum, Diamond)
Monthly Sunday Masters Cup
Oseanic Championship Series 2015
Point Standings
The Grandmaster Manual
1. Introduction
2. Basics
3. Advanced
4. Anti-Cheese
5. Protoss
6. Zerg
7. Terran
8. Summary
9. Bonus Content!
Coaching
TGM Member Only Forums
TGM Official Coaches
Misc
Help us Rate TGM!!
Suggest what you'll like to see!
Need help? Contact Support!
Community Links
Members List
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Search Downloads
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Community
House Clans
Clans
No recent threads.
Community
No recent threads.
Tournaments
No recent threads.
Latest Blogs New
tier list of people...
asdfSchnitzel
My Life Was Turned...
Sc2Clare
I've been playing...
SLCN.Wally
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
General
Stickied Threads
No recent threads.
General Threads
No recent threads.
StarCraft II
Starcraft General
No recent threads.
Strategy Discussion
No recent threads.
BSG Discussion
No recent threads.
Other Games
Other Games
No recent threads.
Sports
No recent threads.
News
News Archive
No recent threads.
Tournament News
No recent threads.
Articles Archive
Replays
Photo Gallery
Mark all forums as read
Closed Thread
Display Modes
Thread Tools
View First Unread View First Unread
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:19 PM BnetId: s_todd 313  Race: Clan: QED  Location: Geelong, Australia  Total Posts Made: 80 # 1
s_todd
Default Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 5
Zerg is so Broken

Before i start my rant, i know zerg isn't totally impossible but i just feel that its a race that leans on the OP side and needs to be discussed.

Zerg is legit a pain to verse, everytime i see a PvZ on ladder i cant help but cringe and feel a little fustrated already knowing theres a 94% chance i've lost this game. I try EVERYTHING. The immortal sentry, 1 base 4 gate +1, 1 base dt, 2 base blink +2 push even just standered macro, but nothing works. No matter how hard i dare try i just lose to lings early game, roaches mid game or both with festors and gg lords as well. Its not even the direct engagements thats a problem, the amout of harass/cheese/all in's zerg can do and get away with it is rediculous. For example, a zerg can 8 pool ZvP which is ment to be cheesy or all in (you decide what its considered) and they might not kill probes or kill a couple and lose all the lings but still be even with the protoss, cause the zerg can be an annoying nonsense for 2 mins or so delaying mining time as the zerg (if they are smart) can drone up get queens and even take a base and macro out of it, meanwhile the protoss is losing the probe/s and desperately getting a zealot/s.

Also theres the muta harass again in mainly PvZ this is a problem, cause muta is such an epic harass unit they can fly to your main and pick off probes and by the time your army gets there it takes 2 secs to get to the third or natural and harass some more, once again putting off the protoss's macro as he/she is focusing on getting rid of this muta problem.

Also theres the ling/bling all in vs T and can be vs protoss if FFE. The zerg can make so many blings and cause there splash damage is so huge and devastating they can tear through a terran wall or a ffe in 3 secs, then run in 30 lngs to clean the rest, and cause this is a mid game strategy play, the zerg can do this, be effecfive or semi effective and can still macro from it, "oh just go counter attack after the ling bling." REALLY? dude u have no army or little army after dealing with the 100 supply of ling/bling and you have to focus on getting your wall up again and to re produce a army.

So ling/bling vs T or P isn't really all in then, like it is all in but you can macro from it, if you go for a 4 gate PvP and it gets shut down, 9/10 times ur gonna lose cause that was all or nothing. Or proxy 2 rax, if that fails its hard to catch up with ur opponent.

Think about it this way, a terran can make 4 rax (early to mid game) and make marines come out 1 from each, after 90 secs you will have 4 marines (presuming the 4 rax and the marines came and completed at perfect time) with a zerg the queen can inject for 4 larva and takes about 30/40 secs to pop, then 27 secs to make 8 lings. This all up is 57 to 67 secs to get 8 lings to attack 4 marines.

With the later game stuff, broodlords and infestors are way too strong, whilst terran can make vikings to deal with broodlords and have some mech army to deal with this boring zerg trend, protoss struggles with it more, they need to somehow get the mothership get a PERFECT vortex get arcons in the vortex blink to pick off remainding broodlords and to split the army to advoid huge damage from the free broodlord units, all this work just for ONE UNIT, seriously... and its not like u snipe all the gg lords and your done, then theres infestors and roaches and the good old lings on the mix you gotta worry about, unless everything the protoss does is perfect (which is really hard) the protoss losses to the zergs a-move.

You cant deny that zerg is a really imba race and is the reason why some people are GM or masters in the first place. If i played zerg with the same skill level as i do with protoss i would be mid maybe high masters as zerg, not mid diamond.

I just sometimes wish there was some nurfs done to zerg in WoL, and its not like in HOTS its gonna get easier, all protoss really got were some new air units, but zerg will just counter that with the faster hydra. Now i know protoss and terran has there strong and maybe op units but everything zerg is op, espechially larva...

User has received an infraction for this post. Accumulation of points pass a certain number will result in automatic bans.
s_todd is offline   OLD POST
s_todd
View Public Profile
Send a private message to s_todd
Find all posts by s_todd
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:20 PM BnetId: sRNamakaye.100  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 647 # 2
x5_Namakaye
x5_Namakaye's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 1
Only good things can come of this thread...
___________________________________
Namakaye-I GOT THIS!! Part of x5's Academy and Clans IXL and sR 2.0. herO #1. Editor
@x5_Namakaye | http://www.team-exile5.org | NVIDIA
x5_Namakaye is offline   OLD POST
x5_Namakaye
View Public Profile
Send a private message to x5_Namakaye
Find all posts by x5_Namakaye
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:21 PM Who's Who:   Race: Total Posts Made: 964 # 3
nGenLight
nGenLight's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 16/2
Blog of the Year (2011)
The Nightman Cometh 2 times!The Nightman ComethSC2SEA Race War ChampionsLetters to CleoKilling SpreeFightinG SpiriTThe People's Champion 2 times!The People's Champion
Achievements (8)
This is correct, ZvP is 94% favoured towards the Zerg according to reliable source.
nGenLight is offline   OLD POST
nGenLight
View Public Profile
Send a private message to nGenLight
Find all posts by nGenLight
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:22 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: frayHuT.483  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 536 # 4
HuT
HuT's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 20/1
SC2SEA Supporter!The People's Champion
Achievements (2)
As a Terran, this is correct.
___________________________________
syfHuT | syf Gaming | twitch.com/HuTSC2 | Terran Coach
HuT is offline Send a message via MSN to HuT Send a message via Skype™ to HuT   OLD POST
HuT
View Public Profile
Send a private message to HuT
Visit HuT's homepage!
Find all posts by HuT
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:23 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Fenner.227  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 716 # 5
Fenner
Fenner's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 2
SC2SEA Race War Champions
Achievements (1)
Click the image to open in full size.

Quick Comments
 FaDeBadger:  
We have a winner!
 mGGDaedalus:  
accurate
 souljah:  
you mean... we have a whiner ^^
 AlopexToT:  
hey we see the same things
___________________________________
Fenner - Twitter // fenner website
Fenner is offline   OLD POST
Fenner
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Fenner
Find all posts by Fenner
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:25 PM BnetId: [fray]FLuX.195  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Dunedin, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 860 # 6
FLuX
FLuX's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 6/1
Golden Glory
Achievements (1)
yes.
10char
___________________________________
KR| NA |
Twitter
----
FLuX is offline Send a message via Skype™ to FLuX   OLD POST
FLuX
View Public Profile
Send a private message to FLuX
Find all posts by FLuX
Unread Tue, 15th-Jan-2013, 3:32 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TheGentleman.565  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 533 # 7
TheGentleman
TheGentleman's Avatar
Sleeping with the FishesAyo Technology
Achievements (2)
This is blog material not thread material.

Blogs can be located near the top of the left hand side bar and is the correct place to put opinions, venting and poor spelling/grammar.

Threads are for somewhat quality and thought out posts not QQ about imbalance.

Rather than complaining about imbalance you could use the replay feedback thread to get constructive criticism of your play and to help you improve.

Kind Regards,
___________________________________
- TheGentleman (Gentleman / Gent / TG / Chad / Matt).

TheGentleman [YouTube & Stream]
SEA #565, NA #952 & EU #437.
TheGentleman is offline   OLD POST
TheGentleman
View Public Profile
Send a private message to TheGentleman
Find all posts by TheGentleman

Closed Thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
View All Posts View All
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1 Gate expo vs zerg. How should a zerg player play against this? Easy Strategy & Improvement 9 Thu, 17th-May-2012 5:17 PM
Bronze-Silver Leagues are broken TofuGuy Bronze Silver Gold 74 Fri, 30th-Mar-2012 1:08 PM
PiG's POV - Episode 6 WHY Terran is broken PiG Starcraft 2 General Discussion 11 Wed, 7th-Dec-2011 7:41 AM

Events
Upcoming Events Add
No events scheduled in
the next 7 days.
OSC SEA Participation Bonus
Live Streams
No streams online.
Open SEABets
No open bets.
2015 OSEANIC Series
Latest Results
Americas Open #110 KeeN
OSC SEA Weekly #24 Probe
SC2Online Comm Open #38 aLive
February EU Ladder Heroes Nerchio
February NA Ladder Heroes TRUE
ANZ Cup #12 iaguz
Filthy NA Weekly #16 Semper
Proxy Tempest Open #43 PiLiPiLi
Top 20 OSC Rankings
1ByuN
2Seither
3DemiLove
4PiLiPiLi
5Kelazhur
6Cham
7iaguz
8aLive
9Solar
10KeeN
11EnDerr
12KingkOng
13TRUE
14GuMiho
15Probe
16puCK
17Snute
18PandaBearMe
19PiG
20Ryung
Full Point Standings
Earn extra points with Challenge Matches!
Bounties
Defeat these players and collect the $'s!
ByuN$100
INnoVation$75
Solar$75
Neeb$60
herO$50
GuMiho$50
Nerchio$50
TRUE$50
uThermal$50
Kelazhur$40
MajOr$40
Scarlett$40
Snute$40
aLive$30
Bly$30
iAsonu$30
KeeN$30
PiLiPiLi$30
puCK$30
Ryung$30
Cham$25
Cyan$25
iaguz$25
Guru$25
Seither$25
Semper$25
JonSnow$15
PandaBearMe$15
Probe$15
Latest Collected
Yours 2-0 Neeb $60
SC2ONLINE Comm Open #38
Azure 2-0 Seither $25
ANZ Cup #12
Cham 2-0 Cyan $25
OSC All Stars #24
FuturE 2-0 KeeN $30
ESL Americas Open #109
Donations
Donate using Paypal!

Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.
Home - Contact Us - FAQ - Members List - Advertise - Terms of Service - Top - Mobile-friendly (alpha)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The contents of this webpage are copyright of sc2sea.com © 2010-2015. All Rights Reserved.
The Grandmaster Manual is a Starcraft 2 Guide created and owned by sc2sea.com
Starcraft2 is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, this is a community fan site and no infringement is intended.
Custom artwork by Zeus, Banner designed by Cute, other artworks is used with permission with credits listed here. vBulletin skin by CompletevB.com