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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 1:55 PM BnetId: TABRiS 418  Race: Location: Sydney. Australia  Total Posts Made: 66 # 1
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Smiley: Exclamation [Spoilers] HotS Campaign Discussion

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Am 5 missions in, and feel like I have some points to raise about the campaign and its implementation.

1. This feels easy and very user(noob) friendly. Back in WoL, once an upgrade was locked in, it was locked in for the rest of the campaign. Now, u can pick and choose what upgrade/abilitie u want before each mission. This includes both units and Kerrigan.
Kerrigan (so far), has also been playable for every mission I have been on. Quite different to WoL where I think from memory Jim is playable in 2 missions??
I'm abit confused as to why they done this.. maybe to make it more accessable to more players? not as unforgiving? I was quite peed off when Gears of War 3 lost all its hardcore roots and went casual hoping to appeal to a larger audience and basically make more money. Each mission now has more achievments per game skill level, which is a nice idea.

2. Zerg have names....... Well who would of guessed that.....?? Not me, thats for sure..

3. A MAJOR character dies (I'll keep this hidden incase people dont heed the spoiler warning, I was surprised to say the least).

The rest of you??

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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 2:38 PM BnetId: 794  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Toowoomba Australia  Total Posts Made: 275 # 2
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First, play the whole thing, cause u didn't play enough to spoil anything at all.
And this is an expansion pack, not a new installment. Making it "more accessible" doesn't get more money.
Lastly, zergs had names since starcraft 1
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2. Zerg have names....... Well who would of guessed that.....?? Not me, thats for sure
Zasz and Daggoth in BW had names. What they didn't really have were personalities or character or much to do other then spout exposition (though Kerrigan and Zasz did have a disagreement at one point).

Discussing the campaign is fine, as long as the spoilers are kept somewhere. You don't have to read this thread. It says spoilers galore in the title for a reason. No-ones forcing you to read it.

Ran through it in 9 hours 20 minutes upon release, on brutal. Only failed one level because I couldn't read an ability properly before suddenly dying and misunderstanding how it worked. Game is significantly easier then WoL Brutal, levels give you far more economy then WoL and under far less pressure. Standard blizzard plot too (sigh). Still kinda fun though.
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I feel like there should be a rule where the campaign shouldn't be discussed for a certain amount of time. For example, I'm away for work until next week and as such I'm unable to play the campaign. In this time I'd like not to be spoiled.

Maybe wait 1,2 or 3 weeks before discussing the campaign. There are no spoiler tags on thread topics yet, and you didn't even use the spoiler tag.

Thanks

Edit: to the spastics commenting on this post, the title was changed by a mod after my post. GG

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opens spoiler tagged campaign discussion, thread, is mad to see spoiler campaign discussion
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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 3:51 PM BnetId: TABRiS 418  Race: Location: Sydney. Australia  Total Posts Made: 66 # 5
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First, play the whole thing, cause u didn't play enough to spoil anything at all.
And this is an expansion pack, not a new installment. Making it "more accessible" doesn't get more money.
Lastly, zergs had names since starcraft 1
I thought it could be an ongoing discussion of the campaign as a whole as people see fit. not wait until everyone has fully completed it to talk about it.

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2. Zerg have names....... Well who would of guessed that.....?? Not me, thats for sure

Zasz and Daggoth in BW had names.
i must confess I never played BW.

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I feel like there should be a rule where the campaign shouldn't be discussed for a certain amount of time. For example, I'm away for work until next week and as such I'm unable to play the campaign. In this time I'd like not to be spoiled.

Maybe wait 1,2 or 3 weeks before discussing the campaign. There are no spoiler tags on thread topics yet, and you didn't even use the spoiler tag.

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Spoiler tags???
I would of thought placing the capital words SPOILERS GALORE would of been a pretty big warning that the thread will contain spoilers.
I'll delete the thread if I can. or u can go a head and delete it.
3 negative responses out 3 indicate that i've clearly missed the mark on this one.
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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 4:17 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 6
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I feel like there should be a rule where the campaign shouldn't be discussed for a certain amount of time. For example, I'm away for work until next week and as such I'm unable to play the campaign. In this time I'd like not to be spoiled.

Maybe wait 1,2 or 3 weeks before discussing the campaign. There are no spoiler tags on thread topics yet, and you didn't even use the spoiler tag.

Thanks
The topic is labeled as such, if you browse this thread and get spoiled, its your own fault.

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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 3:58 PM BnetId: TANom#6220  Race: Clan: TA  Total Posts Made: 368 # 7
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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 3:59 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: TA  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 266 # 8
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Spoilers go here

This is a spoiler tag

As for the thread title, I'm on my phone, so I can't see SPOILERS GALORE at the end. This is why I wish there was an option to add SPOILER in front of the thread titles in future like you can with [HotS] and [TA].

Also, I can't delete threads. I'm a pretend admin, not a real one

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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 7:19 PM BnetId: Cyanide.751  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 681 # 9
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Kerrigan kinda reminds me of Bolvar Fordragon.

For those who don't know. He decided to be the one to wear the Helm of Domination instead of Tirion Fording after the death of Arthas Menethil. Thus becoming the Jailer of the Damned, the next Lich King. He kept the scourge under control that way.

Zagara was actually learning human emotions (pity?) So maybe Kerrigan can change the swarm for "good". LOL. Sounds like a terrible idea actually. But yeah, Kerrigan's human side is influencing the swarm.
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I missed 1 bonus mission, and thus, 1 level, and I don't know which one =/
If only there was a way to tell... lol

Edit: Oh nvm, can find that out in the achievements tab!

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Wow the master archives let you choose upgrades AND get achieves. Getting 100% achievements is going to be so easy...
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Wow the master archives let you choose upgrades AND get achieves. Getting 100% achievements is going to be so easy...
For a challenge: try to only get achievements on brutal.

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i went back and redid the bonus mission that i missed in Master Archives, and it didn't let me get the Level 70 Kerrigan achievement....

Wonder what's up with that
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i went back and redid the bonus mission that i missed in Master Archives, and it didn't let me get the Level 70 Kerrigan achievement....

Wonder what's up with that

offline maybe??
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Unread Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 9:08 PM BnetId: Tazerenix.537  Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 329 # 16
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i went back and redid the bonus mission that i missed in Master Archives, and it didn't let me get the Level 70 Kerrigan achievement....

Wonder what's up with that
There is a secret mission?


Also, what ever happened to having a FPS/Third person shooter style level in the campaign...
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There is a hidden mission when megsk run away after the invasion of the terran homeworld.
Kinda like dota style kerragin haunt.


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For some actual story discussion:

Jesus ******* Christ blizzard.

Did anyone else feel pretty cheated by the seriously anticlimactic death of Narud? It's obvious he is Duran who played a pivotal role in broodwar and was incredibly mysterious, and we went from not know who Narud was to getting a hint he is Duran to killing him in 3 missions. No build up over the whole campaign, no hints dropped throughout the campaign; An entire storyline destroyed in 3 missions. How boring..

Also the Jim/Kerrigan relationship is so abusive. Jim needs to kill that bitch and be done with it christ..
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Jesus ******* Christ blizzard.

Did anyone else feel pretty cheated by the seriously anticlimactic death of Narud? It's obvious he is Duran who played a pivotal role in broodwar and was incredibly mysterious, and we went from not know who Narud was to getting a hint he is Duran to killing him in 3 missions. No build up over the whole campaign, no hints dropped throughout the campaign; An entire storyline destroyed in 3 missions. How boring..

Also the Jim/Kerrigan relationship is so abusive. Jim needs to kill that bitch and be done with it christ..
There was a hint or two that Narud was Duran in the WoL campaign also.

On the topic of the campaign, it was lacluster and way, way too easy.. :|

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