[Toastyzeus]

Hi, I am in bronze and I don't think I am progressing any further. I can maintain top 8, but I cant reach no.1 or promotion. I am pretty stuck.

Would any higher level player help me to drastically improve my play?

I would really like to get into silver, but my play in VERY inconsistent.
I can't really afford coaching as a high school student.

If any higher level players would mind to give me a little help?



EDIT: You all, I have finally done it.

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DOUBLE EDIT: More . I just hit gold bros!

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TRIPLE EDIT: More . I just hit platinum bros!

[oo0zula0oo]

hey bro,
I know how you feel as I can't seem so break into masters league!
So I will help you in any ways I can just add me superman.449 I think I'll be able to help you get past bronze. just pm me what times you can go on and I'll try go on those times as well.

I'm also helping some people in my clan around your level so I could probably get you guys together for practice games~

[crAzerk]

Here are some helpful resources you can use:

Zerg Scouting Miniguide - How to interpret the things that you see when you scout as a Zerg.

Replay Feedback Thread - Submit a good replay, preferably of you losing or struggling and you're no idea why. Nice folks here will help you analyse it and provide you with feedback about how to improve.

PiG's Stream - Heard of PiG? He's a top SEA Zerg and he streams often, both of his own gameplay as well as his coaching sessions. He also has a weekly show on Tuesdays when he talks about strategies and analyzes replays. Tune in to his stream to learn more Zerg!

The Grandmaster's Manual - I know you said you can't afford coaching, but paying for a subscription to the TGM can be extremely helpful. Well-written coupled with replays, it is certain to help you improve!


When my exams end, after 26th, I should be rather free so I can run through with you a few games and provide you with specific tips. Till then, do check out the above resources!

[Toastyzeus]

Awesome, thanks. I will keep checking this thread

[Zealo]

have a plan when you start the game for each matchup and learn to do it decently. even if your plan is terrible, doing the same thing over and over you will let you focus on your mechanics and pretty quickly get to goldish.

every time you lose watch the replay and work out where your FIRST mistake was; it should fall into one of 3 categories, macro (ie not injecting for 10 seconds) micro (ie move commanding your army through his army) or decision making (ie building a bunch of roaches after you saw him going marauders). work on never making that mistake again.

[Daboo]

Hey toasty, you can also make use of this thread:
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=202

A lot of people post their replays there for analysis, try posting yours there. Also checkout some clans, it's fun and a nice way to learn the game, you could ask people there for practice games too.

[Toastyzeus]

Awesome.

Also, I know its probably not in my best interest, but I like to play EXTREMELY aggressively, and I don't really enjoy (well I enjoy it, but not as much as aggressive play) too much passive macro'ing. I like getting real fast speedlings and harass, etc.

Problem is, i'm not that good at doing either (harassing or macro) :P

If there is any higher rank sea players that could help me play agressivly, but still safely (economically, army size etc.)?

The only real aggression I can do semi-well is early 4-6 lings and later muta harass, which is pretty bronze.

[crAzerk]

That's just not how Zerg works unfortunately. If you like to go real aggressive in early game and pressure and hit with timing attacks to kill your opponent, Terran may be better.

As Zerg you do need to focus on a strong economy before whipping out the aggression, just because of how the Larva mechanic works (gotta choose worker or army)

[Meatex]

you could get coaching from tgun - top zerg up with moonglade but has a rather aggressive style.
There is no reason that you can't be aggressive but the ways zerg can be aggressive is different and harder to do

[ProAnnn]

Aggressive play is possible as zerg in specially refined aggression at certain timings. But its all very all innish / microish and dependant on ur opponent's mistake. For bronze to get to silver, all you neeed to do is just keep up ur injects .

[crAzerk]

I was ignoring all-ins and all that sort in my previous comment. There are some really strong all-ins that top Zergs do, like the Roach Bane all-in that was all Glade did for weeks against Terrans and won every game.

[AsylumofSouls]

I'm only Gold vsing Platinums but I watch a lot of pro games and know what it is I need to work on so I may be able to help you out with some practice matches / free coaching and the like.
If you're interested, friend me - Suipr.712 and pm me if you see me online.

[Toastyzeus]

Thanks for all your help guys. Especially oo0zula0oo, who has been giving me a lot of help on B.net.

You're all very helpful, thanks

Quick Comments

|Erasmus|:

He is indeed, superman. I try to help him with these things, but I've been on NA mostly lately.

[oo0zula0oo]

^^ bro happy to be of help~ if u have others who wants some help just bring them along wen we train and we can get some round robins goin while I try teaching all of u together~ the more the merrier to me~
I want people to enjoy Sc2 the same as I have since BW and its always the best when your playing among friends with people helping each other out~

I know how frustrating it is but if you have people to back you up for some fun but also productive games it helps with the whole environment and will slowly but surely get you more into the game thus improving~

Once your out of bronze you will see your learning will be much greater and you'll be shooting to masters in no time and surpass me~~

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Nemo:

For helping others

[Toastyzeus]

Well guys, its finally happened. I have finally done it.

[lolwut]

Originally Posted by Toastyzeus

Hi, I am in bronze and I don't think I am progressing any further. I can maintain top 8, but I cant reach no.1 or promotion. I am pretty stuck.

Would any higher level player help me to drastically improve my play?

I would really like to get into silver, but my play in VERY inconsistent.
I can't really afford coaching as a high school student.

If any higher level players would mind to give me a little help?



EDIT: You all, I have finally done it.

I will help because I help everyone . lolwut.901 SEA Platnuim nearly diamond zerg but can play all races at plat lvl .

[oo0zula0oo]

Broooo well done!! Told ya u can do it~
let's now push u to diamond!

[Toastyzeus]

Originally Posted by oo0zula0oo

Broooo well done!! Told ya u can do it~
let's now push u to diamond!

Yeah man, lets. Gotta do some more lessons!

[oo0zula0oo]

Originally Posted by Toastyzeus

Yeah man, lets. Gotta do some more lessons!

Yea bro but for the nxt 2 weeks I can't play I'll b in Malaysia so afterwards I can start ur training again~

[crAzerk]

Congrats on your promotion!