Top 4 for this season, I know by saying that it probably knocks TA out of the finals (that of which I would love to play in, mainly to drag out the BSG to closer to Xmas), but that's what we get and probably ToR.
I mean if Fade B lose this week and ToR and TA win, we will all finish on 4 wins and close in w/l ratio.
Which could make it quite interesting for Season 3, as I feel this season the teams have been much closer.
If the admins/casters want to end it early go for Format 2, but Format 1 I think it better in the fact that top 2 is something to aim for, as it gives you that advantage.
If you were to go for Top 6
Week 1:
Rank 1 & 2 have a bye
Game 1: Rank 3 v Rank 4
Game 2: Rank 5 v Rank 6
Game 3: Rank 1 v Winner Game 2
Game 4: Rank 2 v Winner Game 1
Top 4 for this season, I know by saying that it probably knocks TA out of the finals (that of which I would love to play in, mainly to drag out the BSG to closer to Xmas), but that's what we get and probably ToR.
I mean if Fade B lose this week and ToR and TA win, we will all finish on 4 wins and close in w/l ratio.
Which could make it quite interesting for Season 3, as I feel this season the teams have been much closer.
If the admins/casters want to end it early go for Format 2, but Format 1 I think it better in the fact that top 2 is something to aim for, as it gives you that advantage.
If you were to go for Top 6
Week 1:
Rank 1 & 2 have a bye
Game 1: Rank 3 v Rank 4
Game 2: Rank 5 v Rank 6
Game 3: Rank 1 v Winner Game 2
Game 4: Rank 2 v Winner Game 1
Game 5: Winner Game 3 v Winner Game 4
Higher ranked team picks the map!
Good idea if 6 teams are picked for playoffs - BUT I do think 3rd vs 6th, 4th vs 5th... as otherwise there is no difference between placing 3rd or 5th... (or 3rd and 6th - if a higher seed advantage isn't used...)
Format 1 imo...
Rank 1 and 2 teams have an advantage (as they should - big effort in getting top two spots)... 3rd and 4th have a chance - But as I suggested in the week 9 thread I think some advantage should be given to the higher ranked teams in the match up.
EG; 1st and 2nd play, in sequence
1) 1st selects the first map,
2) 2nd selects their first player,
3) 1st selects their first player and losers pick on map and player from there.
This gives the 1st place team the ability to pick a map that they have plenty of practice on - Then the advantage of being reactionary to the player (and race) of the 2nd placed teams first selection.. giving them the edge to pick a player that has a good match up to that race.
Additionally, the First format produces more interesting games.. 1st round semi's has the top two teams squaring off for the finals spot - an epic game, then (most likely) after other semi's are done there is a chance at a big rematch between those two teams..
deL suggestion is interesting.. but there is no difference between placing 3rd and 6th... Perhaps a similar higher seed advantage of 1st map and 2nd player selection could be given in these games...?
If we're going by half the league then go with SANFL finals format.
5 teams.
#1 gets bye.
Match 1: 2 vs 3, Match 2: 4 vs 5
Match 3: Winner M1 plays #1, Match 4: Loser M1 plays winner M2, Loser M2 is out.
Winner M3 to Grand Final. Loser M3 plays Winner M4. Loser M4 is out.
Match 5: Winner M3 vs Winner M5
Quite long winded, but gives #1 the biggest advantage, 2 and 3 a double chance in playoffs, and 4 and 5 play in an elimination match. Higher seed always gets first map pick..
If we're going by half the league then go with SANFL finals format.
5 teams.
#1 gets bye.
Match 1: 2 vs 3, Match 2: 4 vs 5
Match 3: Winner M1 plays #1, Match 4: Loser M1 plays winner M2, Loser M2 is out.
Winner M3 to Grand Final. Loser M3 plays Winner M4. Loser M4 is out.
Match 5: Winner M3 vs Winner M5
Quite long winded, but gives #1 the biggest advantage, 2 and 3 a double chance in playoffs, and 4 and 5 play in an elimination match. Higher seed always gets first map pick..
I like this format, as it rewards first spot!
KA & Fade A are gonna be hard to beat and makes the games this week extremely interesting as there are movements that could matter!
However doesn't it feel like we are just trying to get Rank 1 v Rank 2 into the finals, if so why not just do that!
After reading the discussion above, I really think it needs to be kept simple. Let's not complicate it and turn it into the AFL finals series which ends up rewarding mediocrity.
Traditional finals reward the top two by giving them a double chance for their efforts over the season whilst the next two have a chance of making it through to the final and winning. This is how most finals are done, hockey, soccer etc.
Thus my vote is firmly entrenched with Format 1 that Maynarde posted earlier.
You don't have to have 1 week per round, I say don't let the playoffs go over 2 weeks. Just make it round 1 saturday, round 2 sunday, and then grand finals the next sunday.
___________________________________ Brendan "TAdeL" Ferguson Clan TA | Twitter | YouTube
Or have the finals all within a day (Saturday/Sunday) but keep the series to Bo7
Just looked over the formats once again - neither actually give the top two teams a reward for finishing top. So with that in mind, the following gives the top two teams a double chance (I actually missed this in relation to my other comments and this is what I was talking about!):
Standardised Finals
Semi Final 1: Rank 1 vs. Rank 2 - Winner qualifies for Grand Final; Loser plays Winner of SF2
Semi Final 2: Rank 3 vs. Rank 4 - Winner plays loser of SF1; Loser is eliminated from Finals and places 4th
Preliminary Final: SF1 Loser v SF2 Winner - Winner goes into Grand Final; Loser is eliminated and finishes 3rd
Grand Final: SF1 Winner v PF Winner - Winner is Champion of BSGCL Season 2; Loser finishes in 2nd place
The playoffs get more and more hectic the more I read this thread.
But I'm sure they'll be awesome!
Some absolutely great proposals for playoffs spots, will be hard for admins to decide.
hey guys just an update for tcp; TCPdeathwing has been promoted to , where does this leave me in consideration of place ment in the team order is he allowed a silver position due to being silver at the season commence. Hope so cos i am the last silver :'( gotta 1v1 ladder more.
hey guys just an update for tcp; TCPdeathwing has been promoted to , where does this leave me in consideration of place ment in the team order is he allowed a silver position due to being silver at the season commence. Hope so cos i am the last silver :'( gotta 1v1 ladder more.
The rules state that in the event a silver player can't replace him, if he signed up as silver he can still be one of the first two players even if he gets promoted.
The rules state that in the event a silver player can't replace him, if he signed up as silver he can still be one of the first two players even if he gets promoted.
Fantastic; am squeezed atm am the only silver player on team that actually participates; though i plan for this to change soon (as in gold) once io start up the 1v1 ladder machine
byrnsy > krrn byrnsy > denile byrnsy < Fridge FaDe B forfeit game (no bronze/silver player ready) FESTa > Fridge FESTa < QEDJenkins Fullstop > QEDJenkins
Sorry if I got anyones names wrong.
Thank you to Frogmite and Maynarde for casting
*edit* oops!! LOL
Last edited by EXCL; Fri, 2nd-Dec-2011 at 12:05 PM.
byrnsy > krrn byrnsy > denile byrnsy < Fridge FaDe B forfeit game (no bronze/silver player ready) FESTa > FaDe B vs QED FESTa < QEDJenkins Fullstop > QEDJenkins
Sorry if I got anyones names wrong.
Thank you to Frogmite and Maynarde for casted
I must ask, FESTa beat Fade B vs QED? ehhe I Presume that's meant to be Fridge?
Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.