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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 12:17 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 1
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Regarding the iVnFictioN Incident

Greetings people.

As some of you may be aware, one of our players. iVnFictioN, was caught maphacking in a ladder game while our clan tag was in use. All the proof and evidence of this can be found here :
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3135

As I have not hear from WillChen aka iVnFictioN since the incident, I am going to have to take action without speaking to him first. Yes some of you may think he is going quiet with guilt, but let's not forget people do have school and real life commitments.

Domo and I have been discussing this for a good 2 days now, and we feel it is in the best interest of the team and sc2sea that he is kicked off the team.

]This MAY CHANGE as it's just me posting and Domo may have wanted something different so we will just wait to see what he says(EDIT:THIS WILL NOT CHANGE), but since there have been a few comments in the thread and I don't want it to explode I shall just give our verdict first, so everyone knows that something is done. It is now up to the sc2sea admins to give him a punishment as they see fit.

I'd like to apologize to everyone if our members (myself mainly) have been somewhat rude or harsh towards other members of the forums simply because this is one of our own that is being shot down. But now that I look at the evidence, I am certain that it was him and anyone that feels angry at his actions are not wrong as this is bringing our region down.

I'd also like to apologize to Scope, as he was the one who had to play an unfair match.To Rockstar, for being unnecessarily rude, I wasn't thinking before I was posting. And especially to sc2sea admins, as they now have 4 pages of useless crap in their thread.

So to wrap things up, iVnFictioN did hack and is NO LONGER a part of Team InVsioN.

Thank you for your cooperation/help, and on behalf of Team InVisioN, I am sorry.

PS: Sorry if my English sucks, I tried to make it dramatic, but there is only so much a 14 year old Malaysian boy can do. (English system here sucks)

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Your english is better than mine lol
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Wait what? You're a 14 year old boy with good English? Hi my name's Richard =)
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anyone else think Rich's rep comment it a bit pedo?
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Good work bro, truly
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Good work sir.
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You're 14? holy shit. Much respect..
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handled this really well. 14yo showing us how it's done
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Silly noob, I could hardly understand you! Gj :)
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This is how it should be done.
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 12:52 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 2
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Wow, nice and wise write up from a 14 years old boy. I'm impressed.

But I don't get the relationships between Domo (who is it ?), you and the clan ? Who is the chief ? I might be lazy because I could search but it would be better that you precise those informations so that people don't have to.

I understand you were under pression from the "public" to take action, but it would have been even more wise to be sure to agree with "Domo", if you share the leadership of the clan with him, before posting.

Anyway, WillChen had the time to justify himself, he preferred to stay silent. There were proof he was the hacker, so it seems to be the correct decision to throw him out from the clan as he didn't take amend or even contact you to ask to redeem himself.

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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 1:01 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 3
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Ah good good thank you Nemo, now I can clarify that as well!

DoMo and I had planned to make InVisioN a long time ago. The only problem was that he was on his last year of school and needs to take care of uni this year. So in that time I went ahead and started what I could first. Gathered a few members, made a few threads, got them into tournaments etc.

But, DoMo is the rightful manager, I am actually suppose to be a player. That was our plan, he manages, and I play since I'm only 14 and it would be good to start now.

So basically, what happened now was that Domo and I agreed that he is kicked, but WillChen never got on. And Domo wanted to talk to him first, problem is Domo is not on to answer questions either. So I just guessed it would be appropriate to post this first since it is inevitable, and maybe if small changes need to be made, let them happen afterwards.

Domo is going to get into uni next month or so, and when that happens I'll just be playing and helping out as best I can, and he will be doing all of this. (since his English is 100x better, as well as his PR)

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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 1:11 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 4
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Your English is very good. Largely good enough for this king of stuff.
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 1:20 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 5
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Your English is very good. Largely good enough for this king of stuff.
Decent enough maybe, but not as professional as people like Mayo, Benji or nirvAnA. Like it wouldn't be the voice I'd want to see out of the team :/ Haha
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 1:19 AM Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 346 # 6
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 2:32 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 336 # 7
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this shit be crazy up this bitch yo, yes? i think drama needs less professionalism

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PROPER ENGLISH <3
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 3:29 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPLemminks.185  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 931 # 8
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 11:00 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 9
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 4:59 PM Race: Location: Brisbane Australia  Total Posts Made: 677 # 10
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Sorry for repost, I made the exact same one in the caught/suspected hackers thread. Stinger quickly informed me he had made this dedicated thread so I have used the same reply here as well (I know, I'm such a nub).

This is just confirmation of what was said earlier in this thread.

[copy paste from my previous post at http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php...ghlight=hacker ]


Sorry for the delay, myself and Stinger have been trying to get into contact with WillChen/FictioN and he is not responding at all.

I will not assume that this is him throwing a temper tantrum or an example of 'guilt by denial/silence'.

Taking that into account, it does not change the penalty for his actions anyway. He was found guilty by the sc2sea admins/community for hacking based on hard evidence. So admins you can guys do what you do best, as for the iVn side of things (as people seem to want to know rofl) we have decided to kick iVnWillChen/FictioN from the team roster completely and will not consider a reapplication from him in the future due to his childish behaviour (recently) and the uproar his actions have provoked.

I want to thank the people who discovered what WillChen was doing, exposed it and followed up on confirming their allegations sensibly. You have made the SEA scene a better place by removing another person whom clearly holds what we stand for in contempt.

Thanks, from myself and Team Invision!

^.^

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And problem is solved :)
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Well handled. Thanks.
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Unread Tue, 24th-Jan-2012, 9:16 PM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 11
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Oh and just an update, WillChen has removed DoMo and myself from Skype. And every time I attempt to speak to him on NA, he disconnects. So if you ask me, that looks like rage.

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Unread Wed, 25th-Jan-2012, 5:22 AM Total Posts Made: 90 # 12
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Now that you have an open spot in your roster there is this guy FadeEvets that you might wanna recruit

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I'm sorry Lieutenant Serious Schnitzel and his deputy, should i remove my post?

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Unread Wed, 25th-Jan-2012, 7:34 AM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 14
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Unread Wed, 25th-Jan-2012, 10:20 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 15
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I'd recruit him in 6 months Nah just kidding! But at least he admitted to doing it.

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explained below!
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Unread Wed, 25th-Jan-2012, 10:27 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 16
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Repped you again for being a 14 year old Malaysian boy with amazing maturity, leadership and english skills for someone of such a young age! Compare this to some of the threads the other 14 year olds make and where English is the first language of their country ... the difference is mind blowing lol.

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I know it's your site and if you wanted rep, you'd have it. But thank you :)
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Unread Wed, 25th-Jan-2012, 11:12 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 17
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Thank you guys for being so nice

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