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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 6:57 AM Race: Location: United States  Total Posts Made: 3 # 1
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Help Bronze player Advance?

Hey guys I have some questions.. I just got the game about 2 weeks ago and I have been doing a lot of research.. playing everyday and I watch replays and whatnot.. I am currently Rank 11 Bronze and I am looking to try and advance... I will post multiple replays so you can tell me in what ways can I improve? or just some suggestions? not looking for a magic bullet!

Thanks!!

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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 9:08 AM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 2
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Hey mate,

It would totally help if you told us what your ingame name is when you give us PvP replays to watch. I assume that your username is HeX from the PvT. If your goal is to be in silver, all you really need is a bit more practice! However, I'm going to suggest some fundamental improvements.

Please take this general advice with a grain of salt. I am not a protoss player so my main concern is that I might suggest something that may actually be a 'bad habit'. However, it looks like you can benefit from having a few more units early on. Perhaps you don't need to chrono out warpgate (you aren't really making use of it so I feel the chronos are wasted). Let it finish in its own time and instead, chrono out some more units to do a bit of an attack early. With your first 3 units, make a poke (that serves the purpose of scouting also. Obviously as you improve and are able to utilise your fast warp gate, it will be an option again.

In a nutshell, here's how you can improve:
- Use hotkeys! Hotkey your nexus, and your army (with separate hotkeys for groups of individual units e.g. 2 = main army, 3 = just your blink stalkers)
- Make smarter engagements/Don't waste units/Retreat when necessary (knowing when to retreat is the most important thing about combat). Have a simple goal like 'don't lose any units before 10:00' or 'don't lose any units unless you are making a big attack'
- Don't let buildings sit idle. If you build a robo or a forge then don't use it, you got have spent that money on something else
- Don't always feel like you have to kill him or do a ton of damage with every attack. Understand that if you attack, he may feel pressured, like he can't safely move out. A poke on one side of his base may draw his whole army there, while leaving the other exposed. He may also overreact by throwing up too many defenses
- It's fine to say in bronze "I will stick to only making X, Y and Z units because they are my core", but I think you need to consider having a core for each matchup - don't just go sentry stalker in every matchup. Robo tech is great in PvT, templar tech is essentially required in PvZ.
- make more units early! Keep pumping them out of your gateways
- Be a bit more active with your units. Check out xel naga towers. Sitting at your ramp is very boring :P
- Don't rush to expand early, but aim to expand more often. First expansion at around 6:00-7:00 minutes is a good mark, as is taking a third at 15:00. Of course, the flow of the game may change this (if he all ins you and you trade but hold it, don't feel you are late and obligated to still drop your expo at exactly that time)
- Learn a rule of thumb for how many buildings to have on how many bases (I don't know what it is for protoss sorry - for terran it's about 3-4 per base).

... & Keep making probes and pylons!

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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 9:33 AM Race: Location: United States  Total Posts Made: 3 # 3
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Sorry about that yes my in game name is HeX
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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 9:44 AM BnetId: Boony.141  Race: Clan: VB  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 60 # 4
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Read this. It is an excellent guide on how to improve in 1v1.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=208343

A lot to read and take in but well worth it.

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that's a good guide not just for bronzies!
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Unread Tue, 21st-Feb-2012, 2:16 PM BnetId: IcedTea 475  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 187 # 5
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Thanks for those tips, breadfan.
Im currently in bronze aswell.(Yes, im a noob. :P)

Hopefully, I'll remember them and put them to good use.
Oh, and yes. I play protoss. xD
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Unread Mon, 5th-Mar-2012, 12:30 PM BnetId: Shana.419  Race: Location: Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 18 # 6
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This is what I learn while improving from Bronze to Gold
- Keep building probes until i have like 50 of them until I am on 3 base (I know this is too little but I am still working on it) - this keeps your econ good to get the units you want
- 1 base can support max 4 gates (or 3 gate robo) - so that your buildings is always producing stuffs and not go to waste
- always scout what my opponent is getting - so that I can get the correct units to counter his
- if opponent is getting +1 atk/def upgrades, I'll make sure i get them fast too! (most of the time I will double forge upgrade & boost it)
- hold the towers before I go attack - so that my opponent doesn't know how big my army is
- Stick to a few builds to master them before I go learn other builds & NEVER EVER get supply blocked!

Hope that helps but I am not perfect and still learning to improve to diamond level

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Unread Wed, 7th-Mar-2012, 1:23 PM BnetId: fbNatelook.400  Race: Location: Lancaster, CA  Total Posts Made: 11 # 7
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Honestly, since you have ageneral knowledge, just play a lot, dont worry about losing.
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Unread Wed, 14th-Mar-2012, 5:42 PM BnetId: VandaL.926  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 6 # 8
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Bronze to Silver imho
1) build workers. a lot of them. (never stop building them is the requirement from silver to gold)
2) pylons. more of them can't hurt you.
3) learn not to turtle.
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Unread Sat, 17th-Mar-2012, 10:26 AM BnetId: lolwut 901  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: wellington new zealand  Total Posts Made: 298 # 9
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If you wanna Add me on B.net I could help you . lolwut .901. I'm a mid/low diamond zerg player but I can do matchups to about mid plat .
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Unread Mon, 19th-Mar-2012, 4:59 AM BnetId: statix.501 EU  Race: Location: England  Total Posts Made: 144 # 10
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if you have EU or KR account i can tell you exactly how i used this site to get into bz to gold(KR)
in less than 2 months
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