SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site

**syfRize** · Sat, 4th-Feb-2017, 9:51 PM

idk dude, you're not the first to say the things you've said - and you defs won't be the last... it's the consensus among members of the community that the splitting of SC2ONLINE/Sc2sea (in a community sense) fractured what little community we had left.

Although many, including myself use SC2Online as nothing more than a glorified calendar (sorry Eddie & co, but the social aspect - or any other aspect of SC2Online apart from supplying signup links and countdown timers is non-existent), it's not as simple as 'shutting it down'... it's a brand that Eddie & co. have built up and nurtured continuously to reach where they want it to be...

Something else I'd like to add - claiming a decrease in chatbox activity (either on sc2sea or sc2online) is in any way related to Discord/Skype chats is stupid and completely wrong. Back in the day we had 30-40 person Skype groups and a 24/7 scrollbar on the sc2sea chatbox user sidebar... people use private chats to bitch and share news etc, but chatboxes like sc2sea's still have a role to play.

Aaaaaanyway, ranting done.

The almost impossible task of breathing life back into the corpse that is sc2sea will only begin with the active participation of site admins/owners (paperclip, nirvana, mods etc - anyone who can sticky content and/or change information/layouts on the sidebars)... sure people can come chat however much they want, but without regular news postings (x-posts from reddit/twitter even.. like news of who qualifiers for what from SEA...) or updated information on the side (and the removal of a lot of the OSC shit that clogs up the page) - it's completely unappealing to even visit this site anymore...

Vote Jessie for site overlord in 2017 - I won't let you down. Make Sc2sea great again.

(bring back post rep pls)

**syfChadMann** · Sat, 4th-Feb-2017, 9:57 PM

Fair call..

Scrapping sc2online isn't the best idea, but taking tournament sign ups away from sc2sea killed it and sc2online DIDN'T fill the gap. I don't think you could save either site by hoping everyone moves over to sc2online and giving better features there - this is still that cultural hub.... It needs to be consolidated here.

Maybe Nirvana could give/sell the site back to the community for us to update..... ?

ToRsupapower · Sat, 4th-Feb-2017, 10:23 PM

Eh, the problem and unfortunate fact is that less people play the game these days. I came here while I was actively playing sc2 to talk to people who did the same which would often lead to different conversations and allowed for all the various opinions you mention.

There are a lot of people like me, likely you ChadMann, likely you Rize that probably won't stop coming to the site (my sc2sea still opens up on Chrome startup) because of the friendships and attachment built with the site but there are so many that didn't build these as strongly, possibly moved on to different parts of life which required more attention or actually do talk to these people on discord/skype etc that allows users to talk to anyone rather than the niche this site pretty much is, if I wanted to talk to someone from sc2sea I would just message them on discord/skype more than likely because it's something unrelated to sc2.

My point, and this all comes back to less people playing the game, is that unless you somehow got an influx of players new or old back into the game I really don't think we'll ever see activity like we did in 2011-2016 (I can't speak for 2010 and i'd say lateish 2016 was when it really started to die) and it's important if you want sc2sea to remain, to find a way so that newcomers stay (which is pretty unlikely) and the people that already come here often also stay, which I think just out of habit still will for a long time.

So really the only outcome I see here is that the site is kept alive with minimal activity with people that frequent it still which is unfortunately what's happening, however currently this is probably nearing the very minimum in terms of minimal activity. You could maybe say skype/discord is to blame or the lack of clan involvement but even a lot of skype chats and clans are not active because not many of us and just people in general don't play the game anymore.

Also if this post doesn't remove my lurker status on sc2sea im leaving too.

**syfChadMann** · Sat, 11th-Feb-2017, 12:19 AM

Was hoping for more response and discussion.....

Hopefully something from sc2online.......?

**syfRize** · Sat, 11th-Feb-2017, 1:35 AM

What's there to discuss that hasn't been discussed a million times already?

Why would sc2online say anything?

MrLando · Mon, 13th-Feb-2017, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by syfChadMann

Obviously the community is significantly dwindling and there are less active members of the community, but I do believe there are still a larger amount of active members of this site, just NO ONE posts or talks to each other anymore, its a bit of a catch 22 - not conversation > so you don't post either > so there is no conversation.

I agree, I think chatbox can have it's place in this community if we get rid of the streamer spam, nobody comes here for streams, anyone trying to begin any conversation is killed by spam. Less people play this game yes, but we used to have people who sat in the chat who didn't even play at all. Chatbox was once a place where you could talk with anyone in the community, whether it was: that silver scrub, that difficult opponent you never knew or that GM hero you idolize.

This website is no indication of the community activity. I play and talk to SEA players all the time, there's still activity, just it's not here any more for some reason. It's sad because this website was a great resource and welcoming for players, can the page be revitalized at this point? Maybe if enough people care.

**ToRSpartaz** · Wed, 15th-Feb-2017, 2:14 PM

I am in complete agreement with Chris in this aspect.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Eh, the problem and unfortunate fact is that less people play the game these days. I came here while I was actively playing sc2 to talk to people who did the same which would often lead to different conversations and allowed for all the various opinions you mention.

To be honest, what do you want to achieve through sc2sea nowadays? The scene itself, I mean sure it has always been small relative to other regions, but what player base do we have nowadays to sustain an active community.

Personally for me, irrespective of the platform, I'd be looking to interact with the people from sc2sea. Maybe a direction that needs to be considered moving forward?

Seffy · Wed, 15th-Feb-2017, 2:54 PM

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Personally for me, irrespective of the platform, I'd be looking to interact with the people from sc2sea. Maybe a direction that needs to be considered moving forward?

Yeah, I'm with Spartaz on this. I'll be honest, I miss the old days, it was really fun despite all the drama.

But it's just that this site isn't really going too good anymore, we're at the point where a lot of us actually interact on other platforms, etc.

Frustration · Wed, 15th-Feb-2017, 5:26 PM

There defently needs to be new mods and updates on this site. and not have the community split between this and sc2online.. There should defently not be a split between 2 sites and since then there has been no scene, I agree with chadman and there should be only 1 site and core site sc2sea, it has been the main site ever since the start, the fact that the SEA scene was so small and niche before sc2online was released and eddie had the nerve to try and make something out of OSC by making his own site and expanding to other countrys, OSC was "Okay" before you made a new site and made it all about OSC and "expanding sea" which actually killed the scene completly. SEA was allways a small community and to be honest i could say for most the players that were here, we didnt really want to expand and vs only koreans or americans or europeans on there times or there servers, SEA players much like myself like to play amongst the community and if we wanted to play against others from other countrys we would go in there tournaments.

Sorry for bad grammar

DUCKVILLELOL · Tue, 21st-Feb-2017, 2:03 PM

bring back xmoon http://www.sc2sea.com/blogs/showentr...&cutoffdate=30

Kreamy · Tue, 21st-Feb-2017, 10:57 PM

omg girl gamer

ToRGreenArchon · Sun, 26th-Feb-2017, 8:26 PM

My only thought on this is that I'd probably come here more if it was a hub for more than sc2 considering how much diversity is in the sea scene compared to 2010-2012 when this was actually the place to be.

**xpaperclip** · Tue, 28th-Feb-2017, 7:14 PM

Totally open to having new people take leadership, new mods, news posters, etc. I've just been too busy IRL to keep up and honestly I have no idea who's active anymore. So, anyone who wants to step up, please just let me or another existing mod know.

**syfRize** · Tue, 28th-Feb-2017, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xpaperclip

Totally open to having new people take leadership, new mods, news posters, etc. I've just been too busy IRL to keep up and honestly I have no idea who's active anymore. So, anyone who wants to step up, please just let me or another existing mod know.

o/ o/ o/

**ToRSpartaz** · Wed, 1st-Mar-2017, 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xpaperclip

Totally open to having new people take leadership, new mods, news posters, etc. I've just been too busy IRL to keep up and honestly I have no idea who's active anymore. So, anyone who wants to step up, please just let me or another existing mod know.

Pick me!