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**syfChadMann** · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 1:31 PM

Its also to do with our communities lack of size... There are a few people that push away and 'troll' new members of the scene, or people that could be members (as they have an interest in SC2 and competitive SC2).

I like your idea tho, Good stuff

**Philosopher** · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 2:06 PM

Thanks ChadMann! Hopefully it can take off. I'd really, also, like to have a 'Round-Table' discussion with Team Managers etc about how to grow E-sports in Australia. I think having a discussion with just managers and 'behind-the-scenes' bodies would be something new and interesting to explore.

but improving the profile of our players is my first port of call.

SLCN.Kez · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 2:55 PM

This has been an issue forever, not just in sc2, but in gaming for the last 10 years. We're to far away to warrant events coming down here, it costs too much for our players to be sent overseas consistently, and rarely when we do send representatives over they perform well enough to garner any attention. Moonglade is sort of the exception to the rule, but even with him he gets sent over what, 1 or 2 times a year? If we really want attention, a few of our players have to do well consistently, or continue to be on shows such as Meta, State of the game etc. It takes YEARS to grow a scene into something people care enough about to hold us in similar esteem to the likes of NA or EU. Sure we should do all we can to try bring attention, but some things just aren't meant to be (at least not for a very long time)

Snx.Mufasa · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 3:07 PM

the international scene isn't going to care about an interview about a player they don't know at all.

im sure the people in SEA would enjoy them though : )

**Philosopher** · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 3:11 PM

This all seems to be a vicious circle.

"The player isn't recognized because the scene doesn't have the support of the international community because the player isn't recognized."

Well I want to try and change that by saying, hey, we have players who deserve to be recognized and here they are!. Perhaps you are right and the Intl. scene doesn't care. But I think if we give them something to watch, to introduce our players to the intl. scene be might just spark more interest.

**mGGNemesis** · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 3:21 PM

Something is better than nothing

All the best philo!

Snx.Mufasa · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philosopher

This all seems to be a vicious circle.

"The player isn't recognized because the scene doesn't have the support of the international community because the player isn't recognized."

Well I want to try and change that by saying, hey, we have players who deserve to be recognized and here they are!. Perhaps you are right and the Intl. scene doesn't care. But I think if we give them something to watch, to introduce our players to the intl. scene be might just spark more interest.

players aren't recognized because they don't have results.

ROOT`iaguz · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 4:21 PM

Players aren't recognised cuz we're bad.

except glade.

We get chances. Last year we actually got a lot of chances! Pig, mafia and petreaus all got loads of overseas time, as well as a full MLG trip for iM and Nv, and the rest of us had plenty of chances to get what they got. We're just really good at squandering them cuz we're bad.

EDIT- yea and ninja at IEM. Knew I'd forgotten someone.

mGGJuggerGOOSE · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 4:41 PM

Com'on guys, Philo has come up with a fantastic idea, as much as we love to believe we aren't cared about, people from other servers would wonder about the Mysterious SEA server. Even if you guys aren't at the Calibre of play that the Koreans/Top Foreigners have at this point in time, doesn't mean you should give up on exposure. Our players have character, more then i see from other countries. I mean come on:

That Lushes Beard... no other country has that!

yuu · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 8:18 PM

I'LL HELP YUU

**syfChadMann** · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 8:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fray`iaguz

Players aren't recognised cuz we're bad.

except glade.

We get chances. Last year we actually got a lot of chances! Pig, mafia and petreaus all got loads of overseas time, as well as a full MLG trip for iM and Nv, and the rest of us had plenty of chances to get what they got. We're just really good at squandering them cuz we're bad.

And Ninja!! Championship bracket at IEM!! >.<

mGGJuggerGOOSE · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 8:30 PM

I think we have to be doing something right if people are getting noticed! Keep up the good work every-one!

FLuX · Mon, 27th-May-2013, 11:14 PM

The more content of a high quality that is pumped out of SEA and marketed, the better. It benefits the sponsors, the teams, the players, and the community. Baldie's casts are a really good example of the kind of high quality of production that SEA needs to even stand a chance at getting noticed by anyone. We have good players, not a lot, and they aren't the best in the world; but they deserve a damn load more respect and recognition than they have.

People need to stop thinking about distance from SEA -> NA, -> KR, -> EU etc. Think less about how many people are in our home region. THIS IS THE INTERNET. If I can skype a friend from Austria, from Canada, or wherever, and look at them face to face and have a conversation, what's to say that we can't have that kind of connection to the rest of the competition in the world?

So Philosopher, I say yes, you should definitely make your show. Beyond a doubt, it benefits the community. But make it the best damn show you can. And then, ask the community to help you improve your show, and make it the best damn show WE can make.

And this more or less goes for everyone looking to start producing SEA content, do not be afraid of asking the community for assistance. You're producing content FOR US, the better quality the content, the more that we enjoy it. We have lots of talented people in this community, I know this for a fact. I'm not just talking about the players either.

Go for it, buddy ^_^

mGGJuggerGOOSE · Tue, 28th-May-2013, 7:30 AM

YAY!!! FLuX has it in a nutshell!

**fray`Alpha** · Tue, 28th-May-2013, 8:06 AM

This sort of exposure is one of the goals we are hoping to gain with the SEANA Trials. Hoping by getting strong na players who will bring in fans / viewers, and give our players a chance to get their name out abit more.