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Matt93 · Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 11:20 PM

It's cool philo, just don't let the hatred consume you or you'll become darth vader and I don't approve of siths.

TABjornbrandr · Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 11:27 PM

I really don't know how to say this without coming off as blunt and obtuse, but the best thing to do is grow the **** up.
If you can't handle failure by now then it's about time you get over yourself and realise that someone performing better than you isn't unusual; it's not some mystical accident that by coincidence someone performed better than you at something.
Welcome to life; just because what you say online doesn't have an immediate face-to-face feedback doesn't mean that is somehow any different to abusing someone who can: run faster than you, write better than you, recall abstract facts you can't even begin to comprehend, and so on.

I cannot stress enough that I'm genuinely not trying to be offensive or condescending in what I'm saying; it's just one of those things you have to grow up and deal with.

RicocheT · Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 11:39 PM

Rico's advice to you would be to find the enjoyment and fun from playing SC2 again.

VorteX · Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 11:47 PM

Hey Philo...no worries...take it as it come, win or lose (don't worry about your wins or loses). Just have FUN!

I at times rages as well (you know i sometimes rage as well), but it shouldn't stop you from just practicing and practicing. Everyone in the world, no matter who you are different. Some people can learn things quickly, while others take longer to learn things quickly. You (and I), probable falls under the take longer things to learn category, but this doesn't mean you won't ever reach you goal (it only takes longer).

No one in the world is perfect, some people are naturally good at playing SC2, while some are not (such as myself). But this shouldn't stop you from playing. There are always someone better someone in this world, take a look at grandmasters in any server, they also lose to people better then they are. No one in SC2 (or in any game for that matter) will have 100% win rate (including Progamers), which mean they suffer loses at someone better than they are. So dont take your loses so seriously. All that matters you did your best (even if you didn't, that's fine, but DON'T be too hard on yourself), but more importantly you had fun while you are playing!

So don't give up, life is too short to be raging and raging at the end of the day is pointless. Raging or not your problem is still here and it wont go away until you deal with it (in the case Practicing). Raging prevent you from having a clear head to go into the next game and the rage will follow you into the game and may not be so successful game as well.

In most time i am in the same boat as you, just losing and more losing. But take each lose as something to learn from. People Learn from Mistake, in order to get better. Look at this way winners won't learn anything, until they have lost! Pick any Pro player, do you think they are instantly Pros when their first pick up Starcraft? I think not. So they must of practice to get to where they are right now. So just keep practicing!

Just take it easy when you are in the game, if you lose you lose. I know it sucks. But remember it is just a game, you just have fun playing SC2, don't be too serious with the game!

But i keep going in laddering to practice. I like to thanks Zen for bring my coach, who still wants to coach me for this while and the patience to do so as well. So i think you should find a player in mGG or outside mGG, that can coach you and have the patience to coach you. There many people in mGG can help you, to name a few: Alpha, Luna, Fender, CookieMonsta, Nemesis, yuu, etc...

Each time you want to rage, just pause and take your hands off the keyboard for bit. Close your eyes and think of happy thoughts that can probable stop raging thoughts from entering your head. You can also do this, but simply just getting off the computer and walk around (or throw water on your face). Pretty much do something you find calming and relaxing.

Don't give up! A journey of a thousand steps, must begin with one single step! So keep pushing ahead and you will get there!

Hopefully this post helps you in anyways. If not, i'm sorry.

Zepph · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:05 AM

Your problem may be that you take the game too seriously. I had the same problem (multiple times, in fact) with League of Legends. I figured out that I placed too much emphasis on winning rather than having fun. The fix I found was to just stop playing. As a result I've taken many a few month breaks from the game and when I come back I always enjoy it more because it becomes about having fun rather than making sure my team wins.

Another approach - which lessens the risk of you becoming rusty after taking a break from the game - would be more along the lines of Bjornbrandr's comment. If you get angry when you lose, you're angry at your own "failure" and taking it out on someone else (ladder losses also royally piss me off). What you need to learn to do is recognise that a loss is not a failure, but rather an important stepping stone towards becoming a better player. The game is supposed to be fun. If it's not fun, you missed the point of playing a game.

To me its just about changing the mindset. Seeing an army get demolished in a casted game might look like a totally sick move that should be applauded, but it's not so awesome when it happens to you, right? Appreciate the cool things that can happen in the game. Learn to laugh at your mistakes, enjoy the challenge of trying to win and focus on the positives (there will always be at least one!).

If you well and truly can't quell your rage, leave the game then write out your abuse in notepad or something. At least that way you're not being rude to someone for no reason.

**fray`Alpha** · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RicocheT

Rico's advice to you would be to find the enjoyment and fun from playing SC2 again.

this is probs one of the biggest things, try and relax with it abit and just try and have fun with the game.

FlashVeno · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:06 AM

My advice would just to play to improve. Don't focus on your w/l or your points, but just try to improve from each game. When you lose, just think of how you would have played better to win that game the next time. Losing is ok , just learn from your mistakes.

syfChase · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:19 AM

Yep yep, just play for fun

And instead of bming, just type 'gg' even if you don't mean it. It's a good habit to get into and the more you do it and get used to it the easier it will become. Be the bigger man. Nothing comes from bad mannering the opponent, maybe some small temporary relief from anger or frustration, but nothing positive really comes from it. If you're getting really worked up I suggest taking a break or going for a walk, a lot of the time when you're playing when you're tilted you'll just end up playing worse.

Sometimes I gg when I get manner muled, mass scanned, proxy nexus etc. I'm not saying that you should have to gg to this sort of crap, you don't, but just don't let it get to you too much. You will feel proud of yourself and less discouraged from the loss too.

You're going to lost half of your games, so don't take loses personally. Almost everyone (apart from high tier koreans and a small amount of foreigners) have a winrate between 40%-60%, so what you're going through is what most people deal with. You just have to deal with the urge to bm

When it all comes down to it, we do play for fun and our enjoyment!

**syfChadMann** · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:22 AM

Get #dedication and play 50 games a day, then never lose to anyone. Problem solved?

Seriously tho mate, just enjoy the game and stop and think before you rage and press the enter key on the offensive messages. I've written "your just a cheesey ****" in game chat before leaving, but I've never pressed enter, I just don't GG someone if it wasn't a good game. Everyone gets that rage and often writting the abusive message is just a way to get it out of your system. The trick is to find another output or learn to manage your rage. If you can't get over your rage then this game may be unhealthy for you or there may be other elements in your life in which you don't feel in control or capable of outputting negative energy in a healthy way. So make sure you have a good holistic look at yourself and these issues. If you find its contained to SC2 then you might find that SC2 is not the right game for you as a 'game' for enjoyment. Or it could be that you should finally tell your neighbour off for being a **** and letting his dog shit on your lawn, or where-ever else negativity is coming into your life.

Good luck chief!

TABjornbrandr · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:30 AM

Just to tack onto what I said before, it's really all in the mindset you have. I start every game with a "hfgl!" and end every game with a "gg!", no exceptions. You need to convince yourself that you're enjoying playing the game and that you're embracing the learning that comes with it. I really don't care if I get proxy 2-gated 3 games in a row because so be it; I didn't react properly. I don't care if the other person tells me to "get the **** out scrub" or "ez points", I have a chance to improve how I play and I love that!
In the end, it's better to bring yourself up to the highest level than to expect that everyone else drops down to yours.

VorteX · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TCPmGG.Chase

Yep yep, just play for fun

And instead of bming, just type 'gg' even if you don't mean it. It's a good habit to get into and the more you do it and get used to it the easier it will become. Be the bigger man. Nothing comes from bad mannering the opponent, maybe some small temporary relief from anger or frustration, but nothing positive really comes from it. If you're getting really worked up I suggest taking a break or going for a walk, a lot of the time when you're playing when you're tilted you'll just end up playing worse.

Sometimes I gg when I get manner muled, mass scanned, proxy nexus etc. I'm not saying that you should have to gg to this sort of crap, you don't, but just don't let it get to you too much. You will feel proud of yourself and less discouraged from the loss too.

You're going to lost half of your games, so don't take loses personally. Almost everyone (apart from high tier koreans and a small amount of foreigners) have a winrate between 40%-60%, so what you're going through is what most people deal with. You just have to deal with the urge to bm

When it all comes down to it, we do play for fun and our enjoyment!

Yeah...what Chase say...to be honest I don't GG, but i also don't BM them. But if you don't want to say GG, than try not to BM them, just leave the game and leave it at that. You probable feel better doing that than keeping you rage after the game has ended.

Past is the past! No point dwelling on the past! Look for the future!

So relax before and after your games

**VoxMSI.Rogue** · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 12:34 AM

Find a way to enjoy playing, or, find another game you can dick around in and don't care about so when you feel angry or frustrated you have something else to play to relax. I have a bunch of silly steam games etc which are perfect for chillaxxxxing.

That or make a smurf account you can be a douche on. Either works

Kopi · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 1:46 AM

keep ur cool Philo... why waste ur apm on raging... just a simple "gg" to end the game or if u think it's not really a good game... just type "mGG!"... if u find ur blood start boiling after a game... just go to the arcade section to find some fun game to chill... or even u can go youtube -> type -> lagtv... and watch maximumblack and novawar rage on others... getting upset over a game will not win u a game... having fun with the game (win or loss) is the most important thing...

after u deal with ur anger... it does not mean ur game will improve... it still take some discipline to push ur game to next level... like training macro/micro, train around some builds, watch replay, watch some pro matches, learning the current metagame and etc... just spending ur time keep playing and playing without understanding the game will get u any further... unless u r some kind of genius...

i have to confess that the above i mention... i am not able to do it cause i am damn lazy... but i try to commit myself to some mGG clan games to make myself practise and think about what i should do for the game... and it works pretty good for me i guess... when the heat is on... it keep u going... so if u don't give up and we will not give up on u

mGGMueX · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 3:25 AM

I have found myself getting mad after losing in the past (although I don't type out my rage usually) and the method I used to help get over it is to watch the replay and notice at least one thing my opponent did well, and adopt that into my play. That way I don't feel bad for losing because I know they did something right, and I gain at least 1 thing from the loss.

**mGGNemesis** · Wed, 17th-Apr-2013, 6:57 AM

There are many good points said above. We have also had countless discussions on this. Gamewise, I know there are a few players e.g. South who has been actively trying to help.

Same as mentioned above, I always start the game saying 'Hi' and 'gg' at the end at the game even if it is cheese. Unless the other player is a bm-ing person or trolling/bm-ing cheese, then I might just leave the game without a 'gg'. Still the opponent doesn't have to know how I feel or receive any satisfaction knowing how mad I might be (whether at myself or the game itself etc).

Don't give up Philo. Rage is bad for the health as well. Count to 10 before hitting the 'enter' key if u have typed something unpleasant. Read it again. Would u like it if someone said that to you? If no, cancel. If I find myself losing much, (even more than 3 in a row is considered too much to me) I stop playing and switch either to another server to play OR chill in chats OR play team games OR practice games. Rotate the types of games u play... doesn't always have to be ladder.

Take care

Hope you can control the problem and not let the problem control you.