[Delinquio]

Hey guys,
I was wondering what internet requirements I need to be able to steam starcraft in a not great but not completely terrible quality. I have all the equipment and really would love to do it. I have a really great computer I am building when I get the parts and it should be able to run pretty much anything on Ultra (Will this affect the quality)
Here is my current Speed Test results

Pretty terrible and that is Optus for you.
Should I be able to stream at a good quality with this or no?

[Matt93]

wow, when my internet isn't bad my internet is better than yours. Thanks for the ego boost, but I don't know, I don't stream but from just looks, no, no you can't stream

[Delinquio]

Originally Posted by Matt93

wow, when my internet isn't bad my internet is better than yours. Thanks for the ego boost, but I don't know, I don't stream but from just looks, no, no you can't stream

:'( You will rue the day you got an ego boost from me...Maybe you won't but the mood is still the same!

[Pox]

It'll be entirely capped by the internet speed if you set up OBS correctly. That upload speed is roughly what I was streaming on last year, here's a vod of the quality you can expect to manage featuring an early arze appearance: http://www.twitch.tv/amdpox/b/314438085?t=1h38m50s

It's a high enough bitrate for watchable 360p, maaaaaybe 480p.

[Cyanide]

you need to go to school of internetsZsZz and learn that C- is not good. You need da A+++++ internetZs.

And then don't spam posts just to get to 25 so that you can get your stream listed on this site for 0 viewers more.

[Seffy]

Use OBS, and set quality to about 7-ish and 360p. That should be fine.

Used to run on this bitrate and was able to pull off 360p well, but you might be able to push 480p, try it out and see if it works out for ya.

[Delinquio]

Originally Posted by mGGCrayonPop

Use OBS, and set quality to about 7-ish and 360p. That should be fine.

Used to run on this bitrate and was able to pull off 360p well, but you might be able to push 480p, try it out and see if it works out for ya.

Cheers for a good answer buddy Will try it later on

[sR.Kumo]

Originally Posted by Matt93

ego boost

Here's some more ego boost!

[Pox]

What's that you say?

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	sR.Kumo:	THIS CAN'T BE REAL D:
	Matt93:	hey pox did i mention i dont like you? because i do like you.
	ToRDjvillian:	Thats the ANU for you.
	syfPhoenix:	What the.....................

[ToRPandarine]

Originally Posted by ToRPox

What's that you say?

was about to say, 'fkin europeans and their good internet'

that is...untill i saw ur post pox...wtf are they feeding your datalines? online internet digital steroids??! :O :O :O

@OP: itll come down to how you handle your bitrate and quality...set it too high and itll all come crashing down...FAST and HARD...set it right and you can have a decent stream...and by decent by my standards is tht u can afford short moments of pixelation and the rare lag

[chlippry]

i think we have a winner lol

[TCPKiaSu]

lmao pox wtf!

[TCPDecas]

I think with the internet you have you will need to downgrade you scale resolution and Max bitrate and bitrate values. Use the OBS estimator ( http://obsproject.com/estimator ) as a guide. Good luck streaming

[Pox]

Hahaha, I'm pretty sure the speedtest server is on campus somewhere, so I'm connected to it via gigabit. My actual internet connection rarely goes above 10MB/s in practice.

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ToRPandarine:

10MB/s...am jelly...thn i remind myself, I haz no caps for dayz :P

[Matt93]

since everyone seems to be posting their speedtests


This is it being GOOD. I can have people attest to what it's at when it isn't good.

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ToRPandarine:

ive got the hots for ur dl speed...but ur upload makes its dangerous lol ;)

[FStitanium]

After going through homeplugs and routers and share among many devices around the family.. This is my result:

[sR.Kumo]

You guys should all be glad you don't live in Spain or Kazakhstan :/
When I was in Kz, I downloaded League at around 0.4Kbps
...
Edit: I didn't actually ever finish DLing, I gave up after I reached 70% and everything crashed and I had to restart

[eCKo'Apoc]

Is this any good ?

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ThatGuyDoMo:

A+

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by Alan

Is this any good ?

Brb getting pitchforks.

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	ToRPandarine:	hv mine
	OSL0rd:	I loled XDDDDD

[FLuX]

Originally Posted by Alan

Is this any good ?

[eCKo'Apoc]

hahah i'm only kidding wish my net was that good. This is the net that rmit provides

[Seffy]

Sometimes I wish I live at uni.

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	ToRsupapower:	never knew WA internet could go past double digits :p
	syfChadMann:	Australian* internet
	Dox:	Pretty much any university/corporate location are gonna be insane

[ToRsupapower]

literally turned into a my e-peen is bigger thread rofl

edit: @crayonpop, SA* lol

[Delinquio]

Mine is still the worst I reckon :/

[eCKo'Apoc]

nah trust me i have the worst net at home -.-
Stupid TPG

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Matt93:

reppin' the stupid TPG

[Seffy]

Dox: *
Pretty much any university/corporate location are gonna be insane

And us people in residential areas get jackshit.

[mGGAequitas]

you can stream fine with that up speed
just do some maths to work out the bitrates and set the resolution to 720

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Pox:

720 looks like pixelated arse on anything less than ~1.2mbps

[OSL0rd]

There are mainly 2 things to streaming. Internet and computer.

On the computer side, you at least need a decent processor (i5 would be best to run streams up to 1080p 30fps at a 3000 bit rate or 720p 60fps at a 4000 bit rate) and your games usually have to be border-less full screen or windowed for the software (OBS) to pick it up (unless its directly captured from the game itself) if not you will start seeing really weird stuff happen.

Assuming you have a good computer that can stream and you've fixed all the technical problems that may arise before streaming. Around the internet and forums alike, plenty of people mention that to stream without lagging your own internet too badly (unless you are on dial-up) the bit rate is usually about half of what your upload speed is at. For example if you have a 10mpbs upload speed, the recommended bit rate would be half of that 5mbps which is about 5000 kbps. I have tried to stream above that supposed half way mark. Previously I had a 1.5mpbs upload so i had my bit rate set to 1200kpbs and it still runs pretty smoothly.

Bit rate is one thing, another thing is the resolution and fps. Quality and fps are proportional to bit rate, If you attempt to stream 720p 45fps with a 500kbps bit rate you just get tons of jumbled up pixels on screen. Mess around with the numbers and see what you can pull off. (Thanks to Pox for pointing my earlier mistake out)

Now we got that out of the way, here are a couple things to take note of.

Whether you run sc2 or any other game on the highest settings or not will not affect your stream quality. It is then dependent on how well your GPU runs the game and that does not have any significant impact on the game (from what I have experienced).

I tend to keep the rule of thumb that i should have the same in game fps or higher as to what i put to stream. For example, my stream software is set to stream at 60 fps, i try to make sure that my game runs at 60fps or higher. May not have any technical ground or effect, but its something that i maintain.

I have also noticed that keeping the stream software minimized puts less stress on the computer. For my case at least, so i recommend keeping it minimized, not in the background open.

I base all that I have said here as experience from my stream. For your reference here is a VOD from my stream as proof.
When I had my old internet (25 mpbs download, 1.5 mpbs upload, stream settings at 720p 60fps 1000kbps *Yes it might seem im breaking my rules, but it works, so i do it, again what i mentioned above is a general guideline, you should mess around with the numbers to see how much you can get away with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNC35-YWsNk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNC35-YWsNk

Now when I have my new internet (Speed: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2912352548 stream settings at 720p 60fps 3000kbps *Apparently this LoL clip is the only one i have atm, previous sc2 vods i didnt save :X : http://www.twitch.tv/azureproductions/b/446593840 )

I use OBS due to it being less intensive on my computer as compared to Xsplit (adding on to the fact that OBS is free and I am cheap/p00r and will not buy a premium for a Xsplit)

To answer your question, yes you can stream, probably towards the 480p 30 fps side with a 500 kpbs, if it gets laggy for you in the game (latency wise) then im afraid it is then not possible to stream, unless you want your viewers to see just a blur everytime you move anything on screen.

For a more detailed guide and stuff you can take 25 minutes of your life watching a OBS guide i made (a little outdated but it still roughly works on the core important parts on streaming):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brns17sqSvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brns17sqSvQ

An important thing to note if you want to stream on Twitch, they are now limiting their stream input qualities, meaning that to stream at high qualities and be able to broadcast those to twitch for viewers, there is now a limit. The limit is as such, Video requirements Codec H.264 (x264), Mode: Strict CBR, Keyframe interval: 2 seconds. Audio requirements: Codec AAC-LC or MP3, Stereo or Mono, Maximum bit rate: 160kbps (AAC) or 128 kbps (MP3), Sampling frequency: any (AAC), 44.1KHz (MP3). If streams do not adhere to within these limits several consequences will be laid down by twitch. Reference: http://help.twitch.tv/customer/porta...t-requirements . The above mentioned settings can be modified under advanced settings and audio settings respectively for OBS. For your case, since you are streaming at a low bit rate and quality it shouldn't affect you. Maybe besides the keyframe value has to be changed to 2, but other than that nothing else you really need to take note of.

Hope this helps!

[Pox]

Originally Posted by OSL0rd

Quality and fps are disproportional to bit rate, for example, the higher the quality and fps you want to stream at with a fixed upload speed the lower the bit rate has to be

What? The bitrate is literally the rate you upload the compressed video stream at, so it should always be set slightly below what your connection can reliably upload. Using lower bitrates with high resolutions/framerates will just give you a mess of compression artifacts.

[OSL0rd]

Originally Posted by ToRPox

What? The bitrate is literally the rate you upload the compressed video stream at, so it should always be set slightly below what your connection can reliably upload. Using lower bitrates with high resolutions/framerates will just give you a mess of compression artifacts.

Come to think of it, I def made a mistake. High quality with low bit rate you just get jumbled pixels on stream. My bad. Cheers for pointing it out.