[Baldie]

Plantronics ACL Melbourne has been confirmed for August 10th & 11th, 2013!

lt's time! The Australian Cyber League's second Live Event for our massive 2013 season, Plantronics ACL Melbourne, is confirmed for early August! Continuing on the huge level of support starting from 2012 & seen already in 2013 at our Brisbane event, Plantronics are continuing to step it up massively and are committing to competitive gaming unlike any other.

Think you have what it takes to be a champion? This is your second chance on the road to success that will end at our National Finals event at the end of the year and we want you to experience this journey with us. Don't miss out on your chance to compete against the best Australia has to offer, catch up with your friends, spectate the best professionals go head to head and experience all the action the most prestigious and competitive national gaming league in Australia, Plantronics ACL, and our events provide. Prepare yourself for all the action you saw at Plantronics ACL Brisbane and a whole lot more as we welcome you to be a part of the 2013 Plantronics ACL Pro Circuit, truly taking competitive gaming to the next level!

Venue:
Union Hall, La Trobe University
College Drive (Off Kingsbury Drive)
Bundoora, Melbourne
VIC 3086
The 2011 ACL Melbourne Venue Returns!
La Trobe University Information
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Plantronics and ACL Partnership:
Australian Cyber League is thrilled to continue to be supported by Plantronics Gaming and continue their involvement as the naming rights sponsor for ACL Events in 2013. Plantronics Gaming have been a long supporter of Australian eSports, sponsoring multiple platforms including Counter-Strike, League of Legends and Starcraft 2. Working together, we look forward to increasing the quality of our online and offline events and providing a more enjoyable experience for spectators and competitors. Plantronics Gaming is supporting the Australian eSports community like no other company and we are honoured to continue to work with them.

Equipment required from participants:
Mouse/mouse pad & keyboard.

Prize Breakdown:
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm - $2,500*
1st $1,000.00
2nd $550.00
3rd $325.00
4th $200.00
5th $125.00
6th $100.00
7th $75.00
8th $50.00

1st Open Bracket $50.00
2nd Open Bracket $25.00

*Maximum prize pool based on minimum levels of attendance. This means if there are the minimum amount or more, the prize pool will be as above. Less teams will mean the opposite and the prize pool will decrease. Minimum attendance figures are as follows: 50 players for Starcraft 2. 4th Place and below will not receive prizes if these conditions aren't met. Minimum prize pool is guaranteed at $1750 for Starcraft 2 to be shared between 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

Tournament Prices:
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm
$25 Open Bracket Online Ticket - Available online in our store here.
$30 Open Bracket Door Ticket - Available at the door on the day.
(Top 8 Participants that progress from Open Bracket to Pro Bracket pay an additional $25 to compete)
$50 Pro Bracket Online Ticket - Available online in our store here.
$55 Pro Bracket Door Ticket - Available at the door on the day.
(Pro Bracket tickets only available to those who have qualified for Pro Bracket)

Registration:
To register for Plantronics ACL Melbourne for Starcraft ll you must fill out the registration form here.

Please note that this registration form can be edited at any time by the person who entered the original information, so if you need to change any details all you need to do is return to the registration form here and change the necessary details.

Once players have filled out the registration form you can find registered players and teams here.

Confirmation:
Confirmation for Plantronics ACL Melbourne opens Friday the 2nd of August and at this time you must return to the Registration form and confirm your intention to attend the event by pressing the confirm button, confirming your details and team lineup, as well as agreeing to the rules and terms and conditions of the event. Confirmation closes on Wednesday the 7th of August.

Structure:
Starcraft 2:
- Top 16 players ranked by Season 2 Points (Online Round 3 & 4) seeded straight into Group Stage.
- Rest of field broken down into Open Bracket.
Open Bracket: - Four evenly distributed Double Elimination Brackets (best of 3).
Open Bracket: - Top 2 from each Open Bracket advances to next stage.
Group Stages: - Top 16 ranked players + 8 qualifying Open Bracket play in Pool Play (4 groups of 6 competitors).
Group Stages: - Each competitor plays the other 5 competitors in their group once (best of 3).
Group Stages: - Top three from each Group advances to the Championship Bracket.
Championship Bracket: - Single Elimination bracket (best of 5) with best of 7 finals.
Championship Bracket: - First from each Group advances straight to Round of 8.
Championship Bracket: - Second and Third from each group advances to Round of 12.
Championship Bracket: - Bracket played out until completion.

Venue Parking:
If you are wishing to drop your equipment off at the venue first then park your car then drive up to the control gate, press the intercom and say that you're going to the Union Hall. From there, drive to the hall and carry in your equipment. Cars cannot be left in the drop-off area for more than ten minutes. Drive back out past the control gate again and into car park 3 (as seen on Campus Map) then walk back to the hall and enter the LAN. Car park 3 is nearest to the hall, otherwise use car parks 1, 2, 2a or 6.

Accommodation Suggestions:
Parkside Inn - 700m from Venue
Greensborough Motor Inn - 5km from Venue
Best Western Mill Park Motel & Conference Centre - 8km from Venue
Rydges Bell City - 8km from Venue

Event Schedule:
Saturday: Doors Open 8.30am - 10pm
Sunday: Doors Open 8.30am - 8pm

Plantronics ACL Melbourne Landing Page:
Conveniently find all information in one location here.

Pool Play:

[syfSoundwave]

Nobody got any good pictures of me at Brisbane so please take some this time, I need a new profile pic! :P

Quick Comments

Snx.FigJig:

SURE THING

[syfChadMann]

Exciting ^_^

[Malice]

keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

[ToRDjvillian]

Hell to the YEAH. b

Been waiting on dates for ages. Now we can organise babysitters, accommodation, travel and possibly some yummy sweets .

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TtSYF.tRoy:

Caramel slice! gogo

[inFeZa]

Few random tips:

This is the same venue as Respawn LAN. Nice and big, Lots of parking, Not a lot of food near by unless you want to go for a walk/drive. Nice place to go outside to relax because its a big park really. .

Getting there: As you can see its pretty far out. Either get a ride, or find here transport directions here. http://www.latrobe.edu.au/melbourne/location.

Quick Comments

	syfChadMann:	This is up rep *nod*
	MezjE:	Maccas is a long ass walk too much further than the walk to places from the racecourse.

[NvJazBas]

(( thought it was on July

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by NvJazBas

(( thought it was on July

I'm with you there man

[RuineD]

THE LOGISTICS

c u all there friends.

[Baldie]

There is more information regarding travel suggestions such as accommodation and parking on the main ACL page. Please go there for all the information (link at bottom of original post).

[TABjornbrandr]

Really disappointed that it isn't in July as was originally planned, means I won't be able to head down for the event. However, I understand the difficulties that arose behind the scenes. Nonetheless, as I'm sure you'd agree, it'd be great to have a solid date earlier than we got this time.

[SLCN.Petrify]

Pumped for this! Shame its in bundoora, such a pain in the ass to get to.

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MezjE:

+1

[Matt93]

:O at la trobe? I expected the city. It's a decent way out from the CBD but not hard at all to get to by car or Public Transport, just a bit lengthy. Ltu #1

[Flamga]

I will be road tripping down from Adelaide I already have 1 persone coming with me but have 2 more seats so let me know if you would like to jump into the fun mobile!!!

Quick Comments

	syfSoundwave:	bring spook pls
	ToRSpookToR:	interested ttyl bb
	Pox:	spookspookspookspookspookspookspookspook
	fur:	pookkiiieeecatt

[ToRDjvillian]

I will be road tripping it down form Canberra . Currently no confirmed passengers and we have 5 spare seats.

Not looking to fill all the seats as that would make it uncomfortable but if your keen on coming let me know. We have yummy sweets.

(Vehicle is a 7 seater holden Captiva)

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syfSoundwave:

I shall accompany you on this journey!

[|Erasmus|]

-probably- won't go any more seeing as it's about an hour and a half travel each way from the accommodation I had lined up. so sad it can't be closer to the city/in july.

[Plottel]

Wooo! So excited, luckily for me I leave somewhat nearby aswell

[SLCN.CautioN]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa boi

[ToRDjvillian]

To hijack the thread, what sweets should Lardols create for this event?

Eg. Caramel slice, chocolate cupcakes, maltester cupcakes, banana bread, brownies etc.
basically any baked sweets and she may make it.

"No special brownies Maynarde" - Lardols

Past creations: http://www.sc2sea.com/blogs/showentry.php?e=1179

Quick Comments

	Maynarde:	:(
	SLCN.Kez:	I would also be interested in special brownies.
	Lardols:	Special brownies are not an option :( I can't be accused of drugging other players :((((((

[Kreamy]

yay im excited for this cant wait!

[x5_dot]

Originally Posted by ToRDjvillian

Eg. Caramel slice, chocolate cupcakes, maltester cupcakes, banana bread, brownies etc.
basically any baked sweets and she may make it.

Is all of the above an option? :P

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Maynarde:

+1000000000

[Lardols]

Originally Posted by dot89

Is all of the above an option? :P

Hmmm not really Dot
I don't have that much spare time (((((
I was going to bring 2 things... Not sure what though

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x5_dot:

awww any 2 will do :D

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by Lardols

Hmmm not really Dot
I don't have that much spare time (((((
I was going to bring 2 things... Not sure what though

Judging by the quality of what I've seen in pics (and eaten in person) it doesn't really matter what you bring, people's worlds are gonna get rocked anyway!

EDIT: Also ACL woo

Quick Comments

	ToRDjvillian:	It is true
	Lardols:	You give me WAY to much credit!!!

[Lardols]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

Judging by the quality of what I've seen in pics (and eaten in person) it doesn't really matter what you bring, people's worlds are gonna get rocked anyway!

EDIT: Also ACL woo

I'm thinking SC2 designed red velvet cupcakes with cream cheese and vanilla bean icing, ACPpro designed malteasers cupcakes with chocolate icing and caramel slice

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Maynarde:

Niiiiiiiiiice

[teddyoojo]

gl ^_^

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Baldie:

Fly back down just for it? ;)

[x5.Revenant]

I'm coming.

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Maynarde:

YES

[Snx.FigJig]

Originally Posted by Revenant

I'm coming.

You better not be joking.

[Turkle]

Archon Tigey will be attending, I can not wait for this, I will be there to support not only Tigey, but my men Megafonzi and Jambi!

Up the Lads!

[eCKo'Apoc]

Can't wait to see everyone there >< !!

[eCKo`Switch]

hnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg

[SLCN.Kez]

Its a nice venue, will be cold as **** tho till us nerds heat it up with impending e-sports excitement. It's pretty huge tho with a decent sized stage but as others said, its about a solid 10 min drive to maccas etc

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ACL VaNzR:

10 min walk. The maccas is actually just outside the campus. But it's a BIG campus

[fur]

w00t ACL hwaiting

[ToRVenom]

Flights and Accom to be book in the Next couple of Days! Keen to see Everyone there!!!

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by ToRVenom

Flights and Accom to be book in the Next couple of Days! Keen to see Everyone there!!!

Maybe we can all organise to stay in the same place like WCS? I will have my car there so itll help getting things when not at the venue and/or making trips if off the beaten track

[Mayo]

See you guys there

I'm keen for another ACL!

[2ezy]

I think I'm right to go, anyone need a lift around let me know.
I'm in mGG now days.

[Seffy]

I'll be going there too with Flamga. See you guys around.

[ThatGuyDoMo]

ooooooooooooo so excited, hope to meet a lot of people irl at this event

[Baldie]

Please review the bottom of the original post.

If you are in the top 24 please confirm or decline your attendance at ACL Melbourne. Official registration will be opened in due course however in the interest of supporting teams and players in sourcing flights and accommodation the seeds have been revealed now.

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x5_dot:

thank you baldie, much appreciated!

[ROOTPetraeus]

confirm asdf

[Fenner]

confirm asdf

[SLCN.Petrify]

confirmed.

goddamn i hope xzam comes!

[SLCNPezz]

confirmed ! woo xzam fighting!

[Caz]

confirm cheers!

[SLCN.Kez]

Confirmed if seed trickles down to me

[NvRossi]

confirmmmming

[x5_dot]

Confirming for PiG

[ROOT`iaguz]

con-FIRMED!

Also only me and rossi terran top 16 wtf guys

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	HuT:	soz
	DUCKVILLELOL:	I agree buff hellbats

[uJeanZ]

Can I compete and reverse Smurf you guys?

[PulSe]

I am confirmed if anyone else doesn't who is above me, otherwise probably not.
(I am PulSe btw)

[aLtNinja]

confirming

[SLCN.ARze]

awesome! how to confirm attendance? i seem to be locked out of my acl account

*edit: confirm attendance

[syfMightyKiwi]

How long do we have to confirm?

Quick Comments

	Fenner:	YES!!!!!!! COME
	asdfSchnitzel:	omg now i have to come if mk coming ;;

[SLCN.StoicWilly]

im SLCN.StoicWilly , confirmed! and i play terran btw.

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Baldie:

Sorry! Thanks for letting me know

[ToR.Arnor]

confirming for KingKong

[Turkle]

Confirming Tigey

[syfSoundwave]

What is the deadline on confirmation? Azz's attendance is based on a few things closer to the date.

[Baldie]

When official registration opens (which the date I am unsure of at the moment) we will provide a cut-off date for pro registration which will be at least 1 week from release.

TL;DR you have most likely a month left but I cannot give an exact date.

[xmoon]

Wow! Time so fast! This will be second time I attend ACL & absolute wishing a photo wif maynare, kinda like his hair style
Also,im Following to support stoicwilly as usual, fighting bro !
Can't wait to watch all top players playing & yeah,I love Terran players the most ^^

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Baldie:

Maynarde doesn't bite just introduce yourself to him when he is off camera!

[syfMightyKiwi]

Will have to decline the seed, hopefully will be able to make the next one >.<

[nGenLight]

confirm thanks

[ToRChoboSniper]

Confirming just in case

[Fenner]

When are groups released?

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SLCN.Petrify:

+1

[ToRDjvillian]

When is open bracket registration opened?

[ToR.Arnor]

So WCS Season 2 final are the same weekend, please tell me this doesnt affect ACL

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x5_dot:

Hong Kong Semis and Finals for SEA as well...

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by ToR.Arnor

So WCS Season 2 final are the same weekend, please tell me this doesnt affect ACL

Why would it affect ACL? It's out of our control and doesn't affect any of our players. Our tournaments will always run for as long as they need to.

[SLCN.NXZ]

Originally Posted by Baldie

Why would it affect ACL? It's out of our control and doesn't affect any of our players. Our tournaments will always run for as long as they need to.

Tournaments aren't allowed to broadcast during wcs afaik?

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by Baldie

Why would it affect ACL? It's out of our control and doesn't affect any of our players. Our tournaments will always run for as long as they need to.

It wouldnt be the first time a tournament has changed dates because a bigger event/s has double booked the date.

couple that with the fact theres been no update from ACL for about a month now (im sure you guys have been busy with OCS3 etc) and we're about 17 days out from the event with no details on schedule or open bracket registration, it isnt farfetched for some doubts to creep in.

[x5_dot]

iirc scheduling conflicts are only prohibited if the prize pool is over $10k

I'd imagine wcs only affects ACL in terms of twitch numbers. the Hong Kong tournament should affect some players on the second day of ACL if they qualify for the semis/ finals

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by ToR.Arnor

It wouldnt be the first time a tournament has changed dates because a bigger event/s has double booked the date.

Chris you of all people I would of thought would realise the impact and challenges of changing an event date for an event as large as ACL, let alone realise Starcraft 2 is only part of the picture.

Originally Posted by ToR.Arnor

couple that with the fact theres been no update from ACL for about a month now (im sure you guys have been busy with OCS3 etc) and we're about 17 days out from the event with no details on schedule or open bracket registration, it isnt farfetched for some doubts to creep in.

The entire core ACL team have been working flat out the last few months on producing and delivering on the OCS3 qualifiers and finals. You need not be concerned if ACL Melbourne is going ahead or not. Expect a lot of updates in the next few days.

Originally Posted by NXZ

Tournaments aren't allowed to broadcast during wcs afaik?

I have already confirmed with PJ there is no conflict.

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ToR.Arnor:

Thats all I wanted to know, cheers!

[SLCN.Kez]

Don't forget about ti3 as well lol

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ToR.Arnor:

:(

[Plottel]

Just a quick question, when will registrations be open for ACL melbourne? I've been checking every few days and was just wondering if there was a confirmed date

[syfChadMann]

Baldie, don't need to rip into anyone or remind us that ACL is more than just SC2.. Don't need that broken record. You should try and focus on replying to the questions raised. The lack of info, hype and build up for ACL over the past few events has been a bit disappointing :-(

What are the groups? When will we find out groups? When wil info on open bracket be available? How are pc numbers set up this time? Considering LoL is now in the mix? And any other question people might want to know. Just answer, no need for 'we have more important things to worry about ya know, think of the big picture'.. The answer is good, but just replying with 'we are working on it and expect details over this week' would be a great response if you do t have the info yet.

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Plottel:

+1

[Loach]

Yeah I've booked flights to go down - and I'm sure I'm not the only one in the same boat.. But more details are always appreciated.. But we as a community have to also be patient

+1 to chaddyface

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syfSoundwave:

sicko!

[HuT]

Confirmed if it comes down that far.

[ToRSpookToR]

relaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Matt93:

don't care about date/times as long as spook comes. So make spook come.

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by Baldie

Chris you of all people I would of thought would realise the impact and challenges of changing an event date for an event as large as ACL, let alone realise Starcraft 2 is only part of the picture.

We probably all realise and understand this, but Chad raises some valid points regarding the build up to this event - despite the other tournaments being organised along with SC2, the fact remains we should be kept relatively informed regarding any plans being made for the StarCraft community.

Please let us know what's happening >< for what is going to be my first major LAN I would like to know what's going to be happening well in advance regarding registration etc

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asdfSchnitzel:

nick to win acl melb

[Dox]

Originally Posted by ToRSpartaz

despite the other tournaments being organised along with SC2

LoL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> SC2

[nGenLight]

I'd like to withdraw my inevitable championship presence so others may have a chance. Thanks =]

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syfChadMann:

:-(

[ROCCAT_Savior]

Looking forward to meeting some of you qtπ's

Quick Comments

	Malice:	who r u
	asdfSchnitzel:	who?
	Pox:	wtf
	ToRSpartaz:	wtf you're going?
	Dox:	wtf then who was phone?

[ToR.Arnor]

http://registration.aclpro.com.au/?e=116

registration is up kids ^_^

[Baldie]

Full details have been announced and main post has been updated. Thank you all for your patience in the past weeks.

Pro players have until 11:59PM AEST Sunday 28th July to register before groups are announced Monday 29th.

[Baldie]

For anybody who was not already aware we have a more detailed explanation of Starcraft 2 Rules and Regulations from map pool to structure to point allocation here: http://www.aclpro.com.au/procircuit/sc2-structure-2013

As you can see we are mixing things up for ACL Melbourne trying to find the best structure for Starcraft 2.

[SLCN.Petrify]

Love the top 3 go through and first goes to ro8 change. Really cool!

[syfSoundwave]

Agreed with Petrify, I like the new format, both for open bracket and the groups/championship bracket.

[Eddie]

New format/structure sounds cool!

[teddyoojo]

Originally Posted by teddyoojo

i think making 6 player groups with only 2 advancing is bad, especially seeing how stacked some groups were (kingkong iaguz deth mafia for example).
the system that iem uses seems superior (6 player groups, 1st player in ro8, 2/3 in ro12, no LB)
makes for a more exiting final, should be about the same time used because no LB and is more forgiving in the group stage rather than in the final 8 (how it should be imo)

too bad this collides heavily with ti3, will tune in some time for sure!

Quick Comments

	asdfSchnitzel:	teddy no playing ;(
	SLCN.NXZ:	teddy genius level format suggestions

[Baldie]

Remember Pro Bracket Registration closes 11:59pm tonight for Starcraft 2. Please register here: http://registration.aclpro.com.au/?e=116

Groups will be announced live tomorrow night TBA.

[Lokth]

Originally Posted by Baldie

Remember Pro Bracket Registration closes 11:59pm tonight for Starcraft 2. Please register here: http://registration.aclpro.com.au/?e=116

Groups will be announced live tomorrow night TBA.

Im presuming this isnt where to sign up for us plebs? How do you sign up for the open bracket?

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by Lokth

Im presuming this isnt where to sign up for us plebs? How do you sign up for the open bracket?

All registrations go through same just tonight is cuttoff for pro bracket so please use the registration link above for open bracket too

[Another]

i normally enjoy watching ACL, but competing with TI3 and WCS, i dno how much ill get to watch T_T

[Baldie]

Groups being revealed very shortly over at www.twitch.tv/aclprosc2

VOD will be put on YouTube

Quick Comments

rezyn8:

Can you update the ACL website and maybe liquipedia as well please

[AvMyuu]

just curious, but any idea on how seeding for open bracket will work ^_^? ty! ;p

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by ACLPRO Website

Open Bracket
All competitors who do not make Pro Status (explained below) enter into the open bracket. The open bracket consists of four double elimination brackets run simultaneously. Each bracket will be played until all but one competitor has been knocked out with the top two from each bracket advancing to Pool Play. Competitors are split into one of four brackets based on their seeding. Top eight seeding will be determined by position finished in bracket followed by map ratio and further comparisons if necessary.

Seeding is based on Online Round 3 and 4 for Season 2 and anybody who did not receive points in either of those rounds will be randomly seeded among other competitors on 0 points.

[Baldie]

OP Updated with Groups.

[syfPhoenix]

OMG OMG OMG OMG
I GOT IN!
Good luck to everyone! Practice hard!

[TCPDecas]

Go Stormz, gl bro

[Philosopher]

I look forward to meeting and getting crushed by those entering into the open bracket

[ToR.Arnor]

Not starcraft related but sick news coming out of ACL

http://www.aclpro.com.au/forums/topi...pool-increase/

TLDR: Riot gives ACL a bunch of money now the LoL tournament is worth $12,000

your move blizzard your move :P

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ToRGreenArchon:

Wow, gonna go be pro at LoL now

[Dox]

YOUR MOVE lNFINITY WARD / TREYARCH / ACTIVISION

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TtSYF.tRoy:

This ;)

[rezyn8]

Blizzard et al need in-game micro-transactions in order to do this. Its why LoL WoT and DOTA2 get large prize pools.

[ROOT`iaguz]

Originally Posted by rezyn8

Blizzard et al need in-game micro-transactions in order to do this. Its why LoL WoT and DOTA2 get large prize pools.

Starcraft really does not support that kind of thing. For a start it's a pay up front game whereas league and dota are F2P. Secondly, there's not a lot of things that can be microtransactable. There's unit skins but D Browder explained they aren't doing a lot of those because of potential graphical strains on lower end PC's. So what do you do?

I imagine blizzard has racked the shit out of their brain to try and microtransact Starcraft but I suspect they're trying to turn other games into cash cows and Starcraft into this far less profitable yet otherwise really cool thing they have and support.

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rezyn8:

Completely agree - SC2 was never intended for the F2P model - Titan will be F2P micro-trans

[s_todd]

So does this mean for me i pay $30 at the door
If you advance to pro bracket thats another $25
Does this mean i might have to pay $55 dollars if i do well? (or someone else was to do well in open brackets)

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Baldie:

55 is the full cost we make it cheaper for open bracket to make it more affordable (pay outstanding if make groups)

[Narse]

Originally Posted by s_todd

So does this mean for me i pay $30 at the door
If you advance to pro bracket thats another $25
Does this mean i might have to pay $55 dollars if i do well? (or someone else was to do well in open brackets)

Now that i read it over like that... it seems sort of cheese to double charge someone for doing well.

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by Narse

Now that i read it over like that... it seems sort of cheese to double charge someone for doing well.

It's not cheese we are actually making it cheaper for open bracket. We could charge everybody full price to compete but we choose to halve it to compete in open bracket and if you make it to group stages then you pay the remaining balance. The pros pay full price straight away.

[Narse]

Originally Posted by Baldie

It's not cheese we are actually making it cheaper for open bracket. We could charge everybody full price to compete but we choose to halve it to compete in open bracket and if you make it to group stages then you pay the remaining balance. The pros pay full price straight away.

Thank you for clarifying this.. I understand where you are coming from now.
I apologize for my ignorance.

[Dox]

They kinda already started down the road of microtransactions, with unique Transmog helms being purchasable in WoW.

D3 will probably receive similar treatment, and some day BlizzDotA will probably follow the same MOBA model as LoL.

[SLCN.Petrify]

Wow, Riot just keeps winning my respect over and over. It's getting frustrating watching Blizzard doing nothing for the Australian scene while LoL is getting all these benefits.

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Fenner:

I know right T_T

[Dox]

Originally Posted by SLCN.Petrify

It's getting frustrating watching Blizzard doing nothing for the Australian scene while LoL is getting all these benefits.

When the hell did we become so ungrateful? It's always, "more, more, more."

Quick Comments

	Snx.FigJig:	because it isn't enough when everyone else is doing 10x better
	RuineD:	yes but when riot is pouring all this money into the community of course we're going to compare.

[SLCN.Petrify]

Originally Posted by Dox

When the hell did we become so ungrateful? It's always, "more, more, more."

Well, Blizzard shafted us for WCS, whilst Riot decides to inject tonnes of money into the scene continually. It's hard not to be asking for more when every LAN event you go to that has SC2 and LoL these days is just full of people there to see one game.

[ROOT`iaguz]

League deserves it as far as I can see. Ignoring whatever you think about the game, the australian fanbase for the game is ******* enormous and as far as I can see is well herded. They got Aus servers. You know what you gotta do to have aus servers? Have enough players in Australia to merit them.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. That's not a pleasant thought.

[ElectricAngel]

Originally Posted by fray`iaguz

League deserves it as far as I can see. Ignoring whatever you think about the game, the australian fanbase for the game is ******* enormous and as far as I can see is well herded. They got Aus servers. You know what you gotta do to have aus servers? Have enough players in Australia to merit them.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. That's not a pleasant thought.

Wise words... I don't think people understand that if they want something they need to support it .. not yell abuse at the party to get it.. pretty sure that's how LoL did it ^-^

[CarbonTwelve]

Originally Posted by ElectricAngel

Wise words... I don't think people understand that if they want something they need to support it .. not yell abuse at the party to get it.. pretty sure that's how LoL did it ^-^

The problem occurs when people are already supporting it as much as they can (by buying the game, playing it, watching tournaments, etc.), but there just aren't enough of them. I think the SC2 players complaining here are in exactly this position - they've done everything else they can towards encouraging Aussie/SEA support from Blizzard, but it still isn't happening, simply due to the lack of numbers. It's got nothing to do with not understanding that they need to support it.

I agree with what I think is Dox's sentiment (namely, that we shouldn't dump on Blizzard because they did do quite a bit despite the small scene), however that still doesn't change the fact that, regardless of the past, the SEA SC2 scene has all but been abandoned by Blizzard.

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by CarbonTwelve

The problem occurs when people are already supporting it as much as they can (by buying the game, playing it, watching tournaments, etc.), but there just aren't enough of them. I think the SC2 players complaining here are in exactly this position - they've done everything else they can towards encouraging Aussie/SEA support from Blizzard, but it still isn't happening, simply due to the lack of numbers. It's got nothing to do with not understanding that they need to support it.

I agree with what I think is Dox's sentiment (namely, that we shouldn't dump on Blizzard because they did do quite a bit despite the small scene), however that still doesn't change the fact that, regardless of the past, the SEA SC2 scene has all but been abandoned by Blizzard.

The SEA Scene hasnt Been abandoned, Over the last couple months Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines have all have national championships, next month theres going to a regional finals (top 2 from each event) to wrap it all up. The Oceania Scene however is an entirely different ball game.

The fact is true, our scene is small and for it to improve 1 of 2 things need to happen (well 3 if you include a combination of the 2 strategies). Either A) The community needs to continue to grow to the point where Blizzard has to support it and it becomes financially viable/sustainable to do so. On the other hand they can look into more ways to help grow the scene by investing more at the local level.

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TtSYF.tRoy:

^ VENGEANCE CUP!

[Dox]

Originally Posted by ToR.Arnor

The community needs to continue to grow to the point where Blizzard has to support it and it becomes financially viable/sustainable to do so.

There is no such thing as sustainability. They don't turn a profit from this.

Originally Posted by CarbonTwelve

regardless of the past, the SEA SC2 scene has all but been abandoned by Blizzard.

Melodramatic much? We miss out on 1 year of Blizzcon/WCS and suddenly Blizzard has abandoned us? I'm really uncomfortable with the pseudo-precedent that has been set by Riot/Valve. Suddenly the publishers are expected to grow the scenes while the rest of us just sit back disgruntled or spoonfed. It's great to see these companies growing their own games, but it's taking responsibility away from the community. And I know it's just going to get worse and worse as new generations of gamers enter the industry and take it for granted.



Some more (purely speculative) food for thought: Blizzards plans for WCS 2013 were locked in before the 2012 financial year had ended. Which meant budgets had been allocated and anyone who has worked in project management will tell you - that means any revisions to the plan get pushed over to next FY. With the recent addition & reshuffling of the Blizzard eSports team and a new financial year, I think it's very likely that we'll see them take some very positive direction between now and 2015. Something else to consider is that when WCS was conceived, they didn't really have an eSports team. What was merely an afterthought 12 months ago now has a dedicated team driving it. Those additional resources are gonna mean a world of difference.

I know it's easy to mindlessly kick up a tantrum and whinge about how nothing is changing, but you have to consider it from Blizzard's angle. The amount of money Riot is sinking into Australia would have blindsided them, and they can't just pull money from a non-existent budget and follow suit. It's not that simple. They have multiple franchises to support, and it's safe to say they currently have 6+ titles (Legacy of the Void, WoW XP, D3 XP, Titan, Hearthstone, Blizzard DotA) in development. I'd expect WCS to become a lot more generous, accommodating and competitive over the next two years.

In my line of work, we've been caught off guard by market competitors (technology, services, marketing) on numerous occasions. It was critical for us to keep up with our competitors, and we had the resources to match/exceed them. But our budget for the year had already been exhausted, so we had to wait until the new financial year before we could charge out the gate at full speed.

I guess all I'm saying is, don't expect immediate change. And don't be so bloody fickle.

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[ElectricAngel]

Originally Posted by CarbonTwelve

The problem occurs when people are already supporting it as much as they can (by buying the game, playing it, watching tournaments, etc.), but there just aren't enough of them. I think the SC2 players complaining here are in exactly this position - they've done everything else they can towards encouraging Aussie/SEA support from Blizzard, but it still isn't happening, simply due to the lack of numbers. It's got nothing to do with not understanding that they need to support it.

I agree with what I think is Dox's sentiment (namely, that we shouldn't dump on Blizzard because they did do quite a bit despite the small scene), however that still doesn't change the fact that, regardless of the past, the SEA SC2 scene has all but been abandoned by Blizzard.

I will leave the term "abandoned" alone.. cause I could go on all day on how ungreatfull people are to the service they receive from Blizzard.. I come from the COD community..

And I still see no reason to turn on a company that has done so much for the community.. If its support they need, then it's support they need! Again turning your back on a scene because you compare it to a totally different scene and are not getting the same result..makes no sense to me.. If people like companies who throw money at people screaming "love me!" go for it.. but personally I'll play a game I enjoy thank you.. made and supported by a team that DOES listen and support its community.. just not in a superficial, materialistic way..

My opinion take it or leave it..

[CarbonTwelve]

Originally Posted by ToR.Arnor

The SEA Scene hasnt Been abandoned, Over the last couple months Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines have all have national championships, next month theres going to a regional finals (top 2 from each event) to wrap it all up.

Apologies for my ignorance of these. Just looked this up and found the info, and looks like a good tournament, although I'd be interested to find out just how much was invested by Blizzard.

Originally Posted by ElectricAngel

I will leave the term "abandoned" alone.. cause I could go on all day on how ungreatfull people are to the service they receive from Blizzard.. I come from the COD community..

Well, I don't think it's about being ungrateful. I mean, some people are, but please understand that I'm not using the term "abandoned" to sensationalise it, it's just that the support that once was there (WCS Australia / Oceania) no longer is.

If its support they need, then it's support they need!

What more kind of "support" can the people here provide? I'd say at this stage nothing is going to lure back enough people to the SC2 scene here to suddenly change whether hosting large events like WCS Australia is a worthwhile venture.

personally I'll play a game I enjoy thank you..

Which is what a lot of people in this thread are also doing. Wishing & hoping it was more isn't a bad thing.

Incidentally, I don't think the comparison to LoL is unfair either. The comparison does need to be made while taking into account the playerbase, but it's still true that Riot is currently investing in Australian tournaments and Blizzard is not. Things don't improve by hiding from the facts.

[fur]

ACL is without a doubt the high point of my gaming year.

$30 is an absolute steal for what a great time you will have.

Good for LoL, great to see eSports and ACL being further supported in the country.

[ToRDjvillian]

Originally Posted by fur

ACL is without a doubt the high point of my gaming year.

$30 is an absolute steal for what a great time you will have.

Good for LoL, great to see eSports and ACL being further supported in the country.

Same for me. I've been hanging out for melbournes announced dates since ACL Brisbane. Getting really excited for next week now.

What i have been saying over the past few days is play in the open bracket because then you satisfy the urge to play early in the event allowing you to spectate the rest of the games afterwards.

besides what is $25-55 for a good time and a chance at more money?

[Dox]

RE: Comments -

Originally Posted by Myth.PickleWeasel

because it isn't enough when everyone else is doing 10x better

Everyone? Are you under some deluded impression that the rest of Australian eSports is being showered in money as well? LoL is the exception, NOT THE RULE.

Originally Posted by Av.RuineD

yes but when riot is pouring all this money into the community of course we're going to compare.

Do you compare NBA prizes with PGA? Does anyone compare Grand Prix with World Rally Championships? Why does this community feel the need to compare everything between SC2 and LoL? And why is the view so narrow? If you're going to draw comparisons, why not include the entire spectrum? Compare with Call of Duty, Halo, Gears of War, DotA2, FIFA & the FGC.

Originally Posted by SLCN.Petrify

Well, Blizzard shafted us for WCS

We shafted ourselves for WCS... It's not their fault our scene is so small/isolated. Besides, they extended the olive branch last year, and look how quick we are to bite them? We're lucky we got what we did.

Originally Posted by SLCN.Petrify

whilst Riot decides to inject tonnes of money into the scene continually.

... Stop for a second and think about how much money Blizzard has injected into the scene over the past 10 years. Riot set up shop in AU a few months ago and suddenly that's overlooked?

Originally Posted by SLCN.Petrify

It's hard not to be asking for more when every LAN event you go to that has SC2 and LoL these days is just full of people there to see one game.

So when you say "every LAN event" you're referring to just AVCon right?

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TtSYF.tRoy:

Dox is on the money here

[TABjornbrandr]

There's a whole slew of issues that arise when comparing sc2 and LoL, given that they're different games (one has a much higher drawing power due to the team aspect) and they're owned by different companies, one of which has a habit of throwing money out in an attempt to draw attention to it (which has evidently worked).
It's very hard for me to understand why people are expecting the same reaction from two different companies when one of them caters to smaller audience that doesn't have the same marketing appeal as the other game.

Whilst I can understand that it's frustrating being stuck in a "if blizz don't give us money we don't get attention so we have less players so blizz doesn't give us money ..." cycle, but in the scheme of things, Blizzard are company that have to prove they are doing the right thing for their share-holders and whilst it'd be fantastic at our level for ten grand to be thrown into every ACL, it's easy to understand why it isn't.

There's way too many people looking at this from one side of the argument. I know it sucks that Blizzard didn't give us WCS this year and I know it sucks that Riot is giving smaller tournaments financial support, but I can see why Blizzard might be acting the way they are.

If anyone here can find the spare money in Blizzard's budget, I'm sure Blizzard would love for you to tell them because chances are they want just that, too. If, however, you can't conjure up the cash, don't be surprised that they can't, either.

[Snx.FigJig]

Don't really understand how a reply to a tweet is meant to change peoples' minds on feeling abandoned

"It's great to see these companies growing their own games, but it's taking responsibility away from the community."
This sounds like a giant excuse to excuse Blizzard for falling behind. Valve and Riot are taking an extra step by getting more involved with their communities and Blizzard isn't, this is nothing new. Sports do it by supporting grassroots clubs all the time to promote their game, it's their job to nurture and grow future players otherwise they risk the chance of being taken over which is what's happening.

Regardless of how blindsided Blizzard have been if they don't react quick enough to fix things (1-2 years is far too long for a game) it's no ones fault but theirs. You can't tell people to just keep waiting and have faith in them because that isn't enough now with the prospects of other games out there to jump to, people here are concerned for legitimate reasons. Everyone here wants to stay around with SC2 but if Blizzard doesn't act fast and give them a reason to stay people will slowly drift off to other games.

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TAEdgE:

LoL doesn't need money from Riot to stay around, the fan base is just that good for it naturally.

[TtSYF.tRoy]

You cant blame them for not putting thousands of dollars into our scene when we get no where near the amount of players or interest that other countries get.
If we somehow get a larger interest base ( EVERYONE TO ACL MELBOURNE) then we will start getting rewards, its not a topic of 'Blizzard don't like Australia'
Because thats not true, we had a dedicated HoTS launch and a WCS last season. The WCS didn't pull much so I'm not surprised we don't have another but the HoTS launch was massive according to reports.

[ToRDjvillian]

Would you like to know what I think about blizzard and contributing to sea? Well here it is:
Blizzard purposely scheduled the other season 2 finals (kr/Na) for the same weekend as acl so that they can announce as a surprise that the winner and runner up of acl actually end up being the 2 sea qualifiers for WCS season 2 BAM!.
And here you are all nay saying.

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by ToRDjvillian

Would you like to know what I think about blizzard and contributing to sea? Well here it is:
Blizzard purposely scheduled the other season 2 finals (kr/Na) for the same weekend as acl so that they can announce as a surprise that the winner and runner up of acl actually end up being the 2 sea qualifiers for WCS season 2 BAM!.
And here you are all nay saying.

This would be amazing

[mGGJuggerGOOSE]

Next year Ima go to ALLLLL DA ACLs!!! I love LoL, and DotA 2, But SC2 is my game and I will always try my best to support it. Everyone should make the effort to do so as well.

[fur]

Meh, the sc2 scene are a pack of whiners.

There is round the clock, non-stop starcraft of a ridiculously high standard, HotS addressed a huge number of the issues with WoL, there are more top-level tourneys and progamers than you can poke a stick at, but because some new kid on the block has shiner toys suddenly Blizz are a pack of incompetent bastards.

Get down to ACL and enjoy it guys

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[Ice714]

So wish I had the money !

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ToRDjvillian:

Find the money, could possibly fit you in the car if you wanted to car pool with us.

[Maynarde]

Flights and accom booked, see you there friends!

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[SLCN.Petrify]

So daybreak is definitely in the map pool?

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by SLCN.Petrify

So daybreak is definitely in the map pool?

Good pickup! I'll find an amicable replacement and update you.

I guess the three most likely options would be Red City, Korhal Sky Island or Derelict Watcher.

[SLCN.Petrify]

I don't know anyone elses opinion, but Sky Island is just a crappy ladder map... the other two both are pretty relevant!

[SLCN.Kez]

Put in derelict watcher, its the map most tournaments are using atm

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[Eddie]

Is there going to be an official after party like Brisbane?

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[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Is there going to be an official after party like Brisbane?

not sure if there will be but we were able to get majority of the peeps into the after party at Brisbane LAN, but everyone left due to the need to eat. So that needs to be taken into consideration. Avcon after party was awesome as it was at a thai restaurant, everyone paid $20 for food and they just kept bringing it out and people paid for their own drinks... not sure how viable that would be in melbourne but its a good example nonetheless

[Eddie]

Originally Posted by NvRossi

not sure if there will be but we were able to get majority of the peeps into the after party at Brisbane LAN, but everyone left due to the need to eat. So that needs to be taken into consideration. Avcon after party was awesome as it was at a thai restaurant, everyone paid $20 for food and they just kept bringing it out and people paid for their own drinks... not sure how viable that would be in melbourne but its a good example nonetheless

Cool Cool. Not sure if that would work so much this time, as probably more sc2 people going than Avcon.

Plus La Trobe University isn't really near anything. Have to drive to get food. And a fair distance to the city.

That's why i was just wondering if ACL had organised something, so everyone ends up same place, rather than people go off and do their own thing.

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Cool Cool. Not sure if that would work so much this time, as probably more sc2 people going than Avcon.

Plus La Trobe University isn't really near anything. Have to drive to get food. And a fair distance to the city.

That's why i was just wondering if ACL had organised something, so everyone ends up same place, rather than people go off and do their own thing.

I don't know about Sunday night as I'm a slave to the man and need to be back at work on Monday morning.

Regarding Saturday night though, I'm hoping to car pool with a few guys to enjoy a quiet beverage or two at the Barcraft in the city. Looks like it's 20-30 minutes drive, and if you share a full cab with a bunch of fellas it wouldn't be very expensive at all!

[Lokth]

can you pay for open bracket entry on the day or is it best to prepay?

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ToRDjvillian:

I truely wonder how much of the OP you read.

[sR.Kumo]

Damnit I wish lived in Australia so I could come to at least some of these tournaments T_T

[syfSoundwave]

One thing I'd like to address is a bit of confusion around main stage. Back at ACL Melbourne, ZenAku vs Rossi and Rossi vs Pezz were the first two games on the main stage and they were streamed. Afterwards, Azz and Xormentor set up on the main stage, but they weren't streamed. I understand that deth vs NXZ was a much, much more exciting series, but if they started at the same time (which they did) why not have deth and NXZ on the main stage if they're going to be streamed?

Over the rest of Day 1 the streamed match was usually not on stage, but rather on the small things on the side of the stage. I just find this decision puzzling. If there's a sick open bracket match you want to cast, why not just say "Hey dudes hold up, we'll put you on main stage."

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Baldie:

TL;DR Bracket scheduling and time management constraints

[Baldie]

Official Maplist:

Akilon Wastes
Bel'Shir Vestige
Derelict Watcher
Neo Planet S
Newkirk Precinct TE
Star Station
GSL Whirlwind

(Daybreak has been replaced by Derelict Watcher)

[SLCN.NXZ]

I did notice this as well but I think the main reason deth and I played off stage was because that bracket was really behind, I didn't play miles for quite a while then deth vs me was pretty delayed too.

[SLCN.Petrify]

What time do group stage players need to arrive?

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ToRDjvillian:

9:45 am

[Baldie]

Confirmation:
Confirmation for Plantronics ACL Melbourne opens Friday the 2nd of August and at this time you must return to the Registration form and confirm your intention to attend the event by pressing the confirm button, confirming your details and team lineup, as well as agreeing to the rules and terms and conditions of the event. Confirmation closes on Wednesday the 7th of August.

For those of you who haven't realised confirmation is now up. This is a requirement and is used to ensure those who registered are still attending. Yes for a lot of people it is redundant but it makes a difference to our preparation so please ensure you confirm your registration.

NOTE When you confirm your name may be taken off the registered players list. This is a bug with the system and does not affect your registration. If you have a concern please contact me!

[Fenner]

Wanna double check im confirmed, not on the list now

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Baldie:

Confirmed

[Lardols]

We will be driving maynarde and will have 5 free seats if people want them to go to barcraft after ACL

[Baldie]

There will be no official after party as La Trobe University doesn't really have much going around it. We definitely welcome those who are keen to catch a cab to the Melbourne BarCraft. It may even be worth somebody championing it and ordering a bus if enough people are interested but this is not something ACL will manage.

We will attempt to arrange something for Sydney and have noted the valid feedback from Rossi and a few others.

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rezyn8:

<3

[inFeZa]

Barcraft

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rezyn8:

<3

[SLCN.ARze]

Wanna double check if im confirmed please, not on list

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[ToRDjvillian]

Originally Posted by ARze

Wanna double check if im confirmed please, not on list

when you confirm you get removed from the list due to a bug. See Baldies response in the thread:

Originally Posted by Baldie

For those of you who haven't realised confirmation is now up. This is a requirement and is used to ensure those who registered are still attending. Yes for a lot of people it is redundant but it makes a difference to our preparation so please ensure you confirm your registration.

NOTE When you confirm your name may be taken off the registered players list. This is a bug with the system and does not affect your registration. If you have a concern please contact me!

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SLCN.ARze:

yeah i saw that, but just want to double check as well if thats ok :(

[Philosopher]

Confirmed.

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Baldie:

Yep!

[xmoon]

I'm driving anyway! Maynare n whoever wanna go barcraft,let me know! Pm me if u don't mind a girl drive u on gtr ))

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[Eddie]

What time does registration for open bracket close Saturday morning? Only times i have found, is doors open 8.30am...

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Baldie:

Tentative 10:15am will solidify it when I get a green light on times

[|Erasmus|]

I have a receipt for payment, but got no email and when i log and click on the confirm/register button it asks me to register again :/

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Baldie:

You are confirmed :)

[rezyn8]

BarCraft Melbourne: We usually order in food (Pizza/Asian) and can do a couple of runs if needed (there is no kitchen at Paloma) - Just need to pay for your share

Quick Note: We will be showing KR Finals from 6pm AND EU Finals action from 10pm as well.

[Baldie]

Registration for Open Bracket closes at 10am on Saturday 10th August.

I will have a spreadsheet with those who have paid and those who haven't. Please come ready with your money upon arrival.

In regards to pro players I want you on site no later than midday. A complete schedule of events will be released shortly.

The process will be very similar to that of ACL Brisbane where you will be required to rank in order of preference the group you will go into should you qualify through open bracket (for example B, C, A, D)

[FvRphoneheha]

FUUUUUUU, I even set an alarm last Friday to remind myself and everything, but.... still... forgot... Too late to confirm? And does that mean anything if i was just hoping to attend Open Bracket? I already registered.

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Baldie:

Just come see me on Saturday morning we'll get it sorted no dramas

[Myth.ZenAku]

I would like to announce my confirmation of participation within this tournament that is ACL Melbourne 2013 on the 10th/11th August.

Good day

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Baldie:

OK! See you soon!

[Myth.ZenAku]

#shotsfired

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ThatGuyDoMo:

shots fired

[ToRSpartaz]

I am pretty sure that I confirmed for the open bracket and paid last night (Hopefully it went through!) Will see you guys on Saturday/Sunday ^^

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Baldie:

It did mate look forward to meeting you!

[ROOTProbe]

Just double checking that i am confirmed for open bracket.

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Baldie:

Yes!

[Baldie]

Thought I would quickly update you all. The event is shaping up we are still working hard to get everything done!

We are at Union Hall which kind of feels like the heart of this place. It's quite a large space and the main stage which LoL has (and deservedly so with Riot's support) is quite impressive! It's a very large University! It may take a few of you a bit of time to find the hall so I suggest getting here a bit earlier than you think you need to, to make sure you find it!

See you all tomorrow back to work for me!

[SLCN.ARze]

Just letting you know I'll be arriving at about 11 or so and will be paying for the pro bracket then, thanks baldie.

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Baldie:

Ok thanks for letting me know

[FvRphoneheha]

Waking up way too early haha. Someone create a reddit thread!

[Baldie]

Brackets are all at http://acl_melbourne_2013.challonge.com/

[SLCN.ARze]

Hey Baldie what happens if there are players that end up with a tie in groups? Is it decided by set score, head to head, or a tie breaker series?
Thanks!

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Baldie:

Set Score > Head to Head

[Baldie]

Championship Brackets: http://acl_melbourne_2013.challonge.com/PACLMCB

[SLCNPezz]

Thanks Baldie for the awesome work!

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fur:

This x1000

[syfSoundwave]

Was fun to meet all of you, minus the whole best of 1 thing because of the late start, was a very well run tournament. Super fun and I'm sad Sydney isn't open bracket because I wanna do it all again!

[SLCN.ARze]

Shoutout to Baldie and ACL crew for the amazing event!! Gratz to Iaguz! Nice Meeting some of you guys as well

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MezjE:

+1

[nGenLight]

Gratz Guz! Proud of you! Show up em Zergs budday!

[TCPDecas]

Congrats to ACL guys for an amazing tournament, loved the casters and the games. Great to see Iaguz win in the grand final!!