[Zakattack]

hey guys zak here iv been playing mainly as a protoss and haing some sucess but i really love playing terran even more just want to know some basic builds and stratergy... sorry if there allready posts like this im new to sc2 and pc gaming in general.

thanks alot guys

zak

[Bash]

Theres some good pointers in this thread : http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=5950

Also one of the ToR dudes did a nice guide on terran everything, which can be found here - ToRPeek "Everything i know about terran"

+ [Iaguz in some thread] +

Originally Posted by iaguz

If all you want is a good build variety then yea sure here you go
TvZ


11/11 rax (tests cheesing and micro. These are good skills to have, even if they don't require the deepest game knowledge to execute)
reactor hellion expand (most standard way to play, low on gimmick high on fundamentals of good execution, multitask and all that good stuff). There are so many variants of the basic 10 depot 12 rax 13 gas 15 OC 16 factory, reactor, switch for hellions, 21 CC opening that I'm not really going to bother going into it. But they are all cool!

TvP

1 rax gasless FE (basic macro build. You get some raxes, you get medivacs, you have 2 bases and you get to enjoy the pure rage of learning how to hold everything off with the barest minimum required to do so.)
12/14 rax opening (slightly newer build, hides a second rax and gets some marines for some early pressure. you'd be surprised what 7 marines and an scv can do to a greedy or under prepared protoss.)
2 rax, reactor/tech lab (Great way to open with some heavy pressure. There's a shitload of variety with this one in terms of what bio tech you attack at and how you transition afterwards).
1/1/1 (Cloak banshees into tanks, weeeeeeeee! Punish shitty low level players who don't know how to time an observer properly!)

TvT

Reaper FE (scout, harass a tiny bit, eco up and marine/tank that shit)
Cloak banshee. (you can expand off of it or do a 2/1/1 timing to take out a weakened opponent. Good to test both, 1/1/1 is a very strong build in TvT)
12 gas 13 Rax openings (**** these can be gross, and in lower leagues especially you can get a lot of fun free wins)

Theres also the obligatory plug for The Grandmaster Manual

Other than that theres the obvious things- marines are good, macro wins games (constantly building SCV's!, use your mules! dont build a planetary fortress in your main!) , make sure you're using your hotkeys, and above all else- have fun.

[mGGAequitas]

- Push F2 while in starcraft
- Select Terran
Congratulations you are now playing terran!

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Bash:

i laughed

[Zakattack]

Originally Posted by sRAequitas

- Push F2 while in starcraft
- Select Terran
Congratulations you are now playing terran!

wow someone missed the point of the question

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	TheGentleman:	He was just being funny, d/w about it. But I did lol.
	SLCN.Kez:	had a good lol as well

[TheGentleman]

Bash's advice looks pretty solid ^^

[mGGAequitas]

Originally Posted by Zakattack

wow someone missed the point of the question

wow someone missed the point of a joke

but in all seriousness if you want to learn to play terran:
1. learn to make scvs. so play a couple of games where you max out on 200 scvs, but constantly keep your money low, don't get supply blocked when your money goes over 400 make another expansion until you're maxed. There should be no gaps in worker production, money should not go over 600

2. Learn to drop mules, same as above but get a barracks first and then make orbital commands as soon as you can for each expansion drop mules whenever you have the energy to do so. Energy should not go over 100

3. learn to make marines. So now you make 1-3 barracks and then expand when your money starts to go high again, or if you are becoming oversaturated. You should have constant marine production unless you are saving up for an expansion.

4. add in gas and other T1 units, add upgrades, then T2 etc etc. add in steps like the ones above and keep doing it until you feel comfortable with each step and you can easily complete the step without breaking the limitation of that step and all the limitations before it.

[dman123]

Originally Posted by sRAequitas

wow someone missed the point of a joke

but in all seriousness if you want to learn to play terran:
1. learn to make scvs. so play a couple of games where you max out on 200 scvs, but constantly keep your money low, don't get supply blocked when your money goes over 400 make another expansion until you're maxed. There should be no gaps in worker production, money should not go over 600

2. Learn to drop mules, same as above but get a barracks first and then make orbital commands as soon as you can for each expansion drop mules whenever you have the energy to do so. Energy should not go over 100

3. learn to make marines. So now you make 1-3 barracks and then expand when your money starts to go high again, or if you are becoming oversaturated. You should have constant marine production unless you are saving up for an expansion.

4. add in gas and other T1 units, add upgrades, then T2 etc etc. add in steps like the ones above and keep doing it until you feel comfortable with each step and you can easily complete the step without breaking the limitation of that step and all the limitations before it.

Yeh this ^ when playing terran you want to be in a constant macro cycle. something similar to this:
-constant scv production (preferably 2 queued at all times)
-army production producing (2 units out of a building at all times)\
-building supply depots (ideally one scv dedicated to making depots, if you see your about to be supply blocked or you hear the "additional supply depots required" build 1 or 2 more)
-when your money spikes, progressively add production facilities and command centers as you see fit. When playing terran there is no excuse to have a bank at any stage of the game, exception being the super late game. So add a good number of production facilities and OC farm so u can sack your scvs for a strong late game army.
-and finally checking progress of upgrades and making sure u start them asap.

As far as builds go. I think u should 1 rax fe in every match-up. Its a macro oriented opener which will improve your mechanics and overall game play. Feel free to ad me on bnet if you have any concerns or need advice about anything. dman 739

[FS.Kezz]

Originally Posted by dman123

Yeh this ^ when playing terran you want to be in a constant macro cycle. something similar to this:
-constant scv production (preferably 2 queued at all times)
-army production producing (2 units out of a building at all times)\
-building supply depots (ideally one scv dedicated to making depots, if you see your about to be supply blocked or you hear the "additional supply depots required" build 1 or 2 more)
-when your money spikes, progressively add production facilities and command centers as you see fit. When playing terran there is no excuse to have a bank at any stage of the game, exception being the super late game. So add a good number of production facilities and OC farm so u can sack your scvs for a strong late game army.
-and finally checking progress of upgrades and making sure u start them asap.

As far as builds go. I think u should 1 rax fe in every match-up. Its a macro oriented opener which will improve your mechanics and overall game play. Feel free to ad me on bnet if you have any concerns or need advice about anything. dman 739

One thing I'd say about SCV production is that if from the very start of the game you have 2 queued up all the time, it can put your timings out a bit. I'm talking about the very start, where you are between 6 and ~25 supply. You don't want to get yourself supply blocked every game because you were focusing too much on double-queueing SCV's and then didn't have the minerals to build your supply depot on time. Between Bronze and Gold it's an acceptable and encouraged thing to do, but once you start trying to optimise your play and make it efficient, double-queueing of any unit becomes a problem because you are spending the resources long before you actually start producing the unit. This can have the effect of delaying expansions, making it easier to supply block yourself by spending the minerals on a queued unit instead of the depot, delaying upgrades and other tech, and making it hard to adjust your play if you scout something different.

Also, with any build involving reactors (which includes the build I posted about earlier) or large amounts of production facilities, you will need to be building 2 supply depots at once when the reactors kick in all the way to the 200 supply cap. For example, if you are on 2 bases and have 3 barracks (1 tech lab, 2 reactors), a factory (tech lab) and a starport (reactor), you should be producing 5 marines, a tank, 2 medivacs and 2 SCV's all the time (until you expand again, max out, or add more production). 1 supply depot at a time is not enough to keep up with this production and you WILL supply block yourself doing this. Don't get into the habit of waiting for the verbal queue "Additional Supply Depots required!" to start adding on more. As soon as your 2 base production is into full swing, you need to be putting down 2 simultaneously. This can mean the difference between attacking with 105 supply at 11 minutes and only attacking with 85-90 supply.

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fur:

Unless you're at masters level queue away. People at lower levels aren't hitting timing anyway, macro is what counts.

[FS.Kezz]

This guide HERE by FilterStarCraft (Canadian Masters Terran) is a very valuable asset when learning Terran. It's a series of YouTube videos that cover macro-based bio play from Bronze league level all the way up to Masters. Pay attention to the benchmarks, play games vs AI to make sure you're hitting them, and then get ready for some sick win streaks on ladder. A lot of "how do I improve?" threads are answered by "Improve your macro!", and these videos show you exactly how to do that with insightful and clear commentary.

Good luck have fun!

[x5_Potter]

I just checked out a bit of the FilterSC thread and it looks pretty good for a new player, or someone like me who hasn't played in a long time. I'll definitely be giving it a proper look some time

[terranmilf]

lol yay terran i guess u will workk out a build that you are comfortable with and suits your play style i like to run around the map building pf on the expos and then attackin their workers with mass cloacked banshees when they attack

[Zakattack]

thanks very much guys for all your help much appreciated but still not having much luck maybe ill just stick with protoss instead

[mGGPrometheus]

Nobody said it would be easy... you've been going at it for 5 days. Terran is the most rewarding race to play (though not in terms of tournament wins).

[Zakattack]

Originally Posted by mGGTitan

Nobody said it would be easy... you've been going at it for 5 days. Terran is the most rewarding race to play (though not in terms of tournament wins).

good point my friend but its so disheartning losing all the time and then as soon as i go toss i win lol maybe i need to give it more time

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breadfan:

This attitude is a sure way to be forever bronze, suggest you take an improvement-focused from results-focused approach

[VB_heathen]

Give it time mate, i personally find terran to be the hardest race. Thats why i went with them. Being playing only terran for the past year, i still suck but i at least can play at gold level and hold my own. I also rage frequently though V protoss in general and V Zerg lategame. I always think to myself this is not balanced but then i remind myself i am bad and am being a giant pussy. Give the filter starcraft thing a solid go, like practice it for a couple of weeks and just use it as a way to get used to everything.

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breadfan:

Haha I like your honest self appraisal, keep that up and you'll enjoy many a promotion to come

[Zakattack]

Originally Posted by BLNFheathen

Give it time mate, i personally find terran to be the hardest race. Thats why i went with them. Being playing only terran for the past year, i still suck but i at least can play at gold level and hold my own. I also rage frequently though V protoss in general and V Zerg lategame. I always think to myself this is not balanced but then i remind myself i am bad and am being a giant pussy. Give the filter starcraft thing a solid go, like practice it for a couple of weeks and just use it as a way to get used to everything.

yeh man will defo take your advice and keep trying playing as terran.

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VB_heathen:

:) gl mate

[DotAKinG]

i'm pretty bad at terran and bad against terran, especially hellion banshee combo. how to counter?

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FLuX:

Queens, a spine, and a spore if he has cloak

[Zakattack]

hey peeps thanks for all your help just come off a 12 win streak and boosted my ladder rating to 4 in my league thanks for some epic advice KUDOS

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VB_heathen:

nice one dude

[CUSupreme]

when i was off racing as terran i found it really fun to play but i never followed builds from TeamLiquid or anything i just spend hours watching DeMuslim and friskyqt and they played alot of game and while playing as terran and watching terran players i learned quite alot from them and how to deal with many styles in TvZ and ZvT

[TCPKerO]

Starting off as terran,

I would suggest building marines and scvs and rax and ccs, do that until you can constantly produce scvs/marines then go from there

[Zakattack]

Originally Posted by TCPKerO

Starting off as terran,

I would suggest building marines and scvs and rax and ccs, do that until you can constantly produce scvs/marines then go from there

sound advice that mate, thats what i have been doing and then after expo thors and medivacs and its working well. also throw in some mauraders/tanks at times depends on what i see scouting

[RuineD]

Alright buddy, here's what you're going to want to do.

Bear with me on this one, it might be quite intense.

First off you're going to make an SCV. Yeah, that's right an SCV. You probably wouldn't have ever thought it since you play Protoss, but its 100% true. Next up, another SCV. You're probably thinking "WTF 2 scvs? The **** is this shit I want to win already" - don't worry man, your time is coming.

**** the third SCV and drop a depot. You know the supply depots. They are worse than overlords because they can't EZ scout and worse than pylons because they can't insta-warp in an army anywhere. BUT, they go up and down - pretty good right?

Forget about making any more SCVs and make thirteen barracks. THIRTEEN. What you're going to want to do after you make those 13 barracks is make 1 marine from each. That way every barracks is 'blooded', or knows what it's like to perform in combat. With each barracks being equal this will prevent any uprisings in the future. Communism best, right? With those 13 marines, you will move command into the opponent's base, exclaiming - "WE ARE USA AND DECLARE THIS LAND OURS", and upon doing so nuke the shit out of everything.

This will leave you with a desolate wasteland, but also a victory.

Please enjoy.

P.S - alternatively make 1 siege tank and win vs every race.

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	SLCN.CautioN:	+1
	OSL0rd:	+1 LOL
	Malice:	10/10 would do good build order
	BearPack:	trollverlord
	VB_heathen:	i think i'm falling in love with ruined.

[VB_heathen]

http://www.gosubuilds.com/

Good info there, everything seems fairly up to date and not filled with all the fluff that the liquipedia has

[pulsePsych]

Starting playing as Terran:

1. Learn some basics: Hotkeys and Mechanics. Mechanics like: Macro, Scouting, Game Sense, MetaGame, etc. You should have like 5 to 6 hotkeys (I don't really use the saved screen buttons, but I suggest you learn them).

2. After getting some solid Mechanics like Macro, you're ready to go for some build orders. You can check some sites like VB_heathen posted, www.GosuBuilds.com. It has B.Os for all matchups with it's Pros/Cons. But here are my Openers I love to use with TvX.

----TvZ:
***1 Barracks Gasless Expand into 3 Barracks (2 reactors / 1 Techlab) Stim-Medivac Timing into 5 Barracks Aggro or getting your 3rd Base early and go for fast 2/2. (BIO)
=Favorite Build

***1 Barracks Gasless Expand into Hellion/Banshee to fast 3rd Command Center to Marine/Tank Composition

***Reactored-Hellion Expand into Bio or Marine/Tank.
(It's an old opener, but it's effective for map control and creepy denies)

---TvP:
***1 Barracks Gasless Expand into an aggress 5 Barracks Aggro
(TvP Bomber Style)

***2 Barracks Pressure with Concussive Shells to Combat Shield = Favorite Build
(then expanding into your natural and going for that 2 Medivac Marine/Marauder timing push around 10:30 to 11:00 minutes. You should have damaged the Protoss with your pressure)

***2 Barracks Pressure with Stim into a 2/1/1 all-in. (Cheese)

---TvT:
***1 Barracks Gasless Expand (ThorZain's Variation)

***1 Barracks Gasless Expand into 3 Barracks Timing = Favorite Build
(it's very effective if you see your opponent going for that all-inish Fast Tank pressure/allin, you can start your Marauder and with good positioning, you already put your opponent behind in terms of economy)

***Banshee Expand

***Fast Tank All-In

***Reaper Expand

***Marine/Hellion Elevator Build

3. Learn to micro and split your units especially in TvZ. You need to split your army insane so you wont die with MoneyFungals+Baneling bombs.

4. Multi-tasking, pronged attacks, drops. These three are the heart and potential of a Terran user, I managed to climb up to 2nd Place in last 2 or 3 GPD Open and hit Masters because of this. As for my personal experience as a Terran player, I am not afraid to use and abuse my drops as possible as I can. It shows your true potential as a Terran user... just don't forget to watch over your units and pick them up when you know your opponent is going to defend that drop. 1 thing: PUT YOUR OPPONENT OUT OF POSITION.

lastly, 5. Decision-Making. Watching Replays can definitely help you improve your decision making. I, to be honest, am not good on my decision making skills but I'm still trying to put in my head that I NEED to watch replays and know my mistakes on each of my play. So yeah, watch replays and improve that decision making. *looks at LG-IM_Mvp* @_@

That's about it. ^_^

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TCPKerO:

Gj dude :)

[Geney]

Zak you're not bronze -_-

[SFTAElessar]

simply build marines

[ThorMayCry]

learn not to queue ur units production too much and know when to build more production buildings.

[SayfT]

if you are bronze player, just focus on producing only scv , marines and marauders (with stim and upgrades , if you can remember them, stim is most important though!!), constant scv production, try not to get supply blocked (on 2 bases? have more than 4 barracks up and running? make 2 supply depos at a time).

Don't focus on fancy micro, multi control groups for now, for bronze league you should do fine with just constant marine/marauder/scv production and just A moving everything, once you get the hang of Terran production/expanding then start focusing on proper build orders/tactics imo

[Lardols]

Being very new to StarCraft and wanting to play Terran I found this post very helpful. So thank you everyone who has commented and thanks to Zakattack for the post.

[chlippry]

im gold league terran. and reading through the previous comments they are all so correct. constant scv production is a must up untill 70ish scv's. i usually push out around 10minute max with various arrangements of units and i love the way the build works. thanks to FilterStarcraft!!

[osrusher]

EASY RO PLAY TERRAN YOU CAN JUST A MOVE

[osrusher]

I was just kidding, there are alot of things to do playing terran which makes it hard to play

[osrusher]

there are 3 match ups tvt tvp tvz [tvx] tvt marine siege tank tvp mmm tvz marine tank standard build

[ToRSpookToR]

You play protoss how can you be so naive