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FSPYRo · Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 10:26 PM

Just wondering what the *average* bsg player reaches in terms of APM. I'm mainly interested in bronze league players but silver and gold will give me a good idea of what to aim for as well.

Fire away!!

Antel0pe · Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 10:30 PM

I have around 50-100 apm and I'm silver league.

xGKingdelete · Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 10:35 PM

i think i had 70-90 apm when i was in masters league, so if i were you i wouldn't worry about the exact number too much

FSPYRo · Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 10:41 PM

In bronze it isn't so much how quickly you can accomplish what you set out to do. It's more about having a good solid build to follow. But I hit 70-80 APM no probs.

**nirvAnA** · Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 10:39 PM

My apm is around 90 but i play protoss

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Stallion · Wed, 11th-Jul-2012, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

My apm is around 90 but i play protoss

old man hahahaha :P blizzard apm or normal apm?

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FSPYRo:

I'm trying to think what 90 APM in real life would look like.

TwoGee · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 12:01 AM

my average is 50.
can go up to 150 (at least thats what it shows on the replay) but thats like in battle and stuff, then drops right back to like 25-50.

OSPixel · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 12:52 AM

APM doesnt matter too much, as there are times you dont need it and times you do. im diamond and i usually sit on average 70 - 100 APM depending on what kind of game is being played, and 110-150 epm

**TAEdgE** · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 12:53 AM

330 - 350 with 210-225 EAPM

Whatever is most comfortable for your play is all you need. I feel I need that much personally.

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Theend · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 1:00 AM

less than 50, some say 0.

eCKo`Switch · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 3:11 AM

Somewhere in the range of 250-300, with around 150 EAPM. Stronk 50% redundancy.

Fairyking · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 3:15 AM

Terrible APM here. Roughly 80-120 lololol sometimes I can peak 200 super lategame when unleashing hell.

FSDarkNemesis · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 6:46 AM

30-45 APM on average in Bronze League; peaks up to 90 when I'm sending hell or frantically defend my base.

TidaL · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 7:44 AM

I'm

and I average about 30 - 60 apm but, like nirvana, I'm a Protoss

breadfan · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 7:59 AM

Yeah don't read too much into APM - APM goes up as your ability to spend your resources, make your probes and make your pylons improves. It's a byproduct of playing properly, not something to strive for on its own.

I haven't checked recently but when I was in gold my real APM was around 110-130, in Blizzard minutes that's I guess somewhere around the 70 mark? I only go by what I'd see in SC2Gears

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ETL.Branno:

very well said

sREnigma · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 8:24 AM

I had well over 100 apm when I was in bronze (i'm a piano and guitar player so i have fast hands) yet i was still losing to people with 5 apm. So I wouldn't worry about apm too much.

edit:

lawl. Well idk if I have any replays from bronze because I had a different computer back then but I might have some from silver. I will have a look. ^^

edit:

Here is a replay from season 1 when i was bronze/silver. sc2gears says my eapm was 100. I also hit most of my injects with my single queen!

http://drop.sc/219020

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	breadfan:	Calling bullshit. Provide replays?
	TADivinity:	me too. 100 apm, 30 eapm id believe

FSPYRo · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 8:43 AM

Yeah, like I said before it's more important to have a solid strat to follow.

**TheGentleman** · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 8:54 AM

I have 50-80 apm on average in sc2... I'm platinum.

I am of the opinion that each "action" you make should have meaning regardless of whether it's a complete build or just macroing.

Hijung · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 10:28 AM

70-150 Silver Protoss

Fairyking · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 10:33 AM

I feel like APM does matter to an extent. I find even with roughly 80-120 apm I still need more at times and if I had 200APM I feel like I could do anything.

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eCKo`Switch:

APM is only useful if you're using your brain as much as your fingers

Myth.ZenAku · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 9:35 AM

80-200 but it really depends on what point in the game

Sosd · Sun, 13th-Jan-2013, 9:36 AM

I'm a

and I average about 95-100, I can get up to about 250- 300 when im in a battle or frantically defending multiple attacks.

XyborgPH · Thu, 26th-Feb-2015, 9:51 PM

I am doing an average of 90 - 110 APM and trying to make it usable as much as possible.

Apostrophe · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 11:25 AM

On average around 70 APM. I've never hit beyond 80-90 APM on average though.

Certain times of the game my APM could hit as high as 150-200, that's what I observed from some of my replays.

Fadey · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 11:46 AM

I havnt played in a few seasons but I was Diamond with around 60-80... again protoss ftw

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S2Glow · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 12:26 PM

150~200 apm haha!

FSPYRo · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 1:23 PM

Is that your average though?

**ToRSpartaz** · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 1:25 PM

140-160 Epm and 70 apm XD

for the win

BearPack · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 1:43 PM

I couldn't tell you my honest APM, I spam keys for the first 6 minutes, then micro banelings or whatever like a madman for the rest of the game.
Classic zerg

AxS.Sorathez · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 8:30 PM

To paraphrase Day[9], APM isn't something that makes you a better player. Instead, as you become a better player your awareness of what needs to be done increases.
That is, you'll be more aware of whether you need a pylon, whether you're building probes/SCVs (or whether it's safe to build drones as zerg), what's happening on the minimap and so on.
As your awareness of these things increases, so does your ability to do them, and as a consequence your APM increases as well.

Essentially, having high APM does not make you a better player, but good players generally have higher APM due to what I stated above.

Personally my APM (EPM in replays, in Blizzard time) hovers between 60 and 80 and my EAPM (APM in replays) between 50 and 70. But yea I play Protoss.

AvPoker · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 9:25 PM

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x5.NotoriouS · Thu, 12th-Jul-2012, 9:31 PM

my apm starts off really low but eventually is like 70-80 and up to 100+ if it's a long game ..

mGGDrGooSe · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 1:08 AM

155 with 25% redundancy. Gold. Need to actually keep track of my larva cycles, that would put it out to like 180 or something. Although the epm wouldn't change.

ETL.Santi · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 2:19 AM

my apm is over 9000

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breadfan:

I was waiting for this, surprised it took so long

Bloodmyst · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 9:07 AM

My APM sits between 75 - 95. I've noticed for some reason it seems very dependant on what build I do.

My EPM sits at around 280 - 320. Goes sky high when in engagments.

TADivinity · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodmyst

My APM sits between 75 - 95. I've noticed for some reason it seems very dependant on what build I do.

My EPM sits at around 280 - 320. Goes sky high when in engagments.

Holy shiznit batman that is a massive redundancy

Bloodmyst · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TADivinity

Holy shiznit batman that is a massive redundancy

Yep, and for the past few weeks I have been trying to slow things down. It's definitely more of a curse then anything. The amount of times I have screwed up because my fingers seem to move more faster then I can think..... not even kidding.

Let's just say I get super paranoid about my army too much. There is nothing worse then looking away from your army for a split second to see it all gone....gg.

QEDjuslai · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 11:00 AM

i am gold 250-350 EAPM protoss

TAminimat · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 11:01 AM

I think you mean APM

or CPM or whatever the **** blizzard calls it now.

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FLuX · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 12:16 PM

APM doesn't really matter; I usually average about 140-160 APM over the course of a game, with 90-100 EPM and I'm mid-diamond. Spikes can go up to 900 though if microing/macroing hard, but I'm going to attribute that to lag and delay to servers etc.

EDIT: Now more like 200-250 APM with ~130 EPM, NA midmasters

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FSPYRo:

Lol.. Flux was the name I was looking to change too... xD oh well.

**inFeZa** · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 1:12 PM

ITT: Brag about your APM. Even if you're not BSG Like the Sub-Forum/OP Suggests.

Trinion · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 3:05 PM

I have something like 50% to 60% redundancy.
I find it a lot harder to play if I don't spam through my control groups and spam production keys even if I don't have enough resources.

90~100 APM and 150~200 EPM so a lot of my keystrokes don't do crap

Oh, I play protoss

mGGMueX · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 7:20 PM

here, My APM varies massively depending on the situation. On average its about 80 blizzard apm, 140 blizzard epm, but if i'm zerg it can get up to 200 thanks to szzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

neKo · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 8:12 PM

usually 30 or so

Reere · Fri, 13th-Jul-2012, 8:50 PM

Back in my BSG days I remember I was around 40-70apm. I think i only broke 3 digits in Plat~

faithHunter · Sat, 14th-Jul-2012, 7:23 PM

I think my APM is around 120, but most of it are just spam :P

Lokth · Mon, 23rd-Jul-2012, 3:41 AM

between 50 and 110 depending on what race. 230 when im micoing a terran bio ball

memo619 · Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 2:13 AM

Well my apm on average is 150, eapm is 120-130 or so I don't really know where I get all that apm from since I don't really micro my army lol

Zealo · Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 2:26 AM

as mid - high master, mine is usually about 40-60 depending on race i spawn (zerg most, protoss least), mostly spam though

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mushistar · Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 4:58 PM

170-240 avg

RVLiveR · Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 8:29 PM

Aim for 80 apm in BSG, but apm doesn't really matter. It's more about the brain than the fingers until about diamond masters. 80 is generally enough to out-multitask your opponent.

KeyboardWarrior · Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 9:35 PM

I did check my apm occasionally at sc2 gears. The latest replay states my APM is 152. However EPM is 92. So, there is about 30 - 40 % redundancy going about in my play.... >_<

ToRMaverick · Tue, 24th-Jul-2012, 10:53 PM

My average over the game is 90-100 and I was a plat toss (now back to gold).

As per most of what people have said here... it really dont matter if your apm is 200-300 if your general mechanics / macro is bad then you will lose more often than not.

TASalvatioN · Wed, 25th-Jul-2012, 6:46 AM

on a bad day, maybe around 550, on a good day bout 650

Spud · Wed, 25th-Jul-2012, 6:55 AM

I use all 3 timeouts every game to stay composed.

FSPYRo · Wed, 25th-Jul-2012, 6:35 PM

There's timeouts??

DUCKVILLELOL · Thu, 26th-Jul-2012, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zypher

There's timeouts??

I presume he's talking about pauses? Very interesting philosophy to pause to "calm" yourself though! Maybe I should try that...

I have about 115 eapm when I'm playing P (main) when I'm offracing with T it goes down a lot because I'm still learning heheh.

QEDPostage · Mon, 30th-Jul-2012, 10:30 AM

When I play Z i average around 140eapm at the end of say a 20 minute game, I tend to play a bit better when I spam so sometimes it goes a bit higher

RVLiveR · Mon, 30th-Jul-2012, 4:24 PM

I should definitely use pauses to calm myself, that seems like a very smart idea.

FSPYRo · Tue, 31st-Jul-2012, 6:38 PM

Soon we're gonna see top level grandmasters introducing pauses into their average match. Could you imagine competitions? Uhkk.

AssyrianKing · Tue, 31st-Jul-2012, 11:43 PM

Guys how do we get real apm not sc2 apm

QEDPostage · Wed, 1st-Aug-2012, 8:01 AM

You can use sc2 gears to find out what your "real" amp is

SLCN.StoicWilly · Fri, 3rd-Aug-2012, 5:11 PM

spamming helps you improve apm but spamming usually is just to warm up your hands. 100apm is enough to build everything and micro.

FSNiseH · Fri, 3rd-Aug-2012, 5:13 PM

If I recall correctly, your "real apm" is now labelled under EPM in game. Mine's about 100 or lower, I think it's enough.

AxSGRiM · Sat, 4th-Aug-2012, 4:03 AM

im protoss i use lasers and a move no apm required

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Antel0pe:

^ this guy plays protoss right

Shieldz · Sat, 4th-Aug-2012, 4:04 AM

i think i have around 120 epm and its not as good as i want but its pretty enough for top 16 gm in sea so i think fs battle toaster focus on other things except apm

A3Mercury · Mon, 6th-Aug-2012, 1:42 PM

I never really look but I know its not high.. I can sit comfortably over 100 but mostly because I switch between rax and ccs as a nervous twitch lol. I would think it'd be better to be more accurate than fast. like sending a army and clicking the same spot 5 to 10 times when 1 will not make them move any slower lol.

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syfCabracan:

Sometimes clicking 5-10 times make it slower because you reset the pathing each time.

Fenner · Mon, 6th-Aug-2012, 1:44 PM

290 average sc2gears apm

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	ROOTPetraeus:	lol dry
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SLCN.Wally · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fray`fenner

290 average sc2gears apm

I average 9 more skills per minute then fenner

ProAnnn · Mon, 6th-Aug-2012, 1:45 PM

Plays protoss 120 is enough

ToxicTiger · Mon, 6th-Aug-2012, 8:23 PM

Hmm like 70-90 I do find even if I'm spam clicking its keeps my mind active not sure if its the same for anyone else lol

Noxgazer · Mon, 13th-Aug-2012, 8:34 AM

Im a

and my APM is about 40-75. I can reach about 130 in micro custom games, but can never quite pull off that in a ladder match. It's probably because I panic in game.

FaMe · Mon, 13th-Aug-2012, 11:23 PM

here. normally average about 80, in engagements 150-200 (both APM/EPM) though that's going off replay data, not sc2gears.
Only just coming back off a loooooonnnng break so i'm trying to go pretty quickly and could probably lose a bit off a regular game

ToRPandarine · Mon, 13th-Aug-2012, 11:25 PM

hover from 55 to 80 in all MU...I feel like it's mostly me spamming my RMB XD

highest amp was 93...twas intense TvP...miss those days :3

Omny · Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 2:36 PM

Pretty sure i was sub 70 in high plat.

TABjornbrandr · Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 3:01 PM

Diamond at the moment; my sc2gears APM is around 190-ish, in-game it's 150-ish and the new EAPM in-game is around 100-ish.

The very first time I hit Gold was as Protoss in season 2 or 3, I was probably playing at like... 40 apm. If that.

Bugalugs McScruffin · Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 3:11 PM

Hahahaha. Just checked this out. Currently (forever)

and I have an incredible EAPM average of 30. I think I peaked at an EAPM of 180-ish at one point and get over 100 every now and again. That being said, when I'm doing stuff it hovers between 30 and 60.

Shieldz · Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 3:35 PM

now my apm when i actually do things is around 100-120 but most of the best players still have around 150 so im trying to hit 150 thats my goal

ThatGuyDoMo · Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 5:18 PM

I get around 210-220 according to sc2gears. Ingame measurement I think EPM is 115-130 and APM 150-170.

Dia zerg btw.

utlanning · Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 6:42 PM

~100-120 APM, ~80-90 EAPM

I figure it's a pretty meaningless statistic at least for me, since whenever I lose it's because I did something dumb, not because I didn't do the dumb thing quickly enough.

ToRPatto · Tue, 21st-Aug-2012, 4:17 PM

Silver Terran.. I get around 100 average post patch

YoonBaekHee · Tue, 21st-Aug-2012, 4:19 PM

~110 apm ; masters (NA) toss -1000pts

FSPYRo · Tue, 21st-Aug-2012, 5:11 PM

After reading most of the replies I can see that I'm pretty much where I want to be now. I'm comfortably hitting 70-80 apm every match.

Hunter999 · Fri, 12th-Oct-2012, 12:49 PM

I'm new zerg player,

My APM is about 50-80, but when comes to battle, sometimes will hit up to 120 APM (very rare)

ZixmaSRG · Wed, 29th-Aug-2012, 2:23 PM

50-100 apm

NighTerra · Fri, 12th-Oct-2012, 5:40 PM

eAPM is more important than APM. My APM isn't too high (120ish) but I'm really efficent (about 100-110 eAPM)

I've seen a lot of people with like 250 APM when their eAPM is under 100. That extra APM is basically useless, becasue your not actually doing anything with it.

ToRMcLovin · Fri, 12th-Oct-2012, 8:16 PM

inefficiency ftw!
apm = 200
eapm = 80

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RVLiveR:

mine's more inefficient - 380 apm, 150 eapm :D

ToRSoul · Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 8:27 AM

Mine is between 120-150 but i'm toss and my cpm is around 110

SanG · Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 11:08 AM

I didn't realise this at first, but doing replay analysis of recent games, my current apm is around 250, epm 200 ish on sc2gears.

mGGPrometheus · Thu, 18th-Oct-2012, 2:53 AM

APM has long been at 70-80. Recently it's bumped up to about 90-100. EPM is about 80% of my APM.

**mGGNemesis** · Thu, 18th-Oct-2012, 7:46 AM

I watched a few of my replays just to answer this question... apparently it varies depending on my matchup and strat I choose. So APM ranges from 70-102, EPM ranges from 55-89.

FS.Kezz · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 9:07 AM

120 APM on average, with ~100 EPM.

ROCCAT_Savior · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 9:08 AM

I have around 200 apm, 100 eapm

RVLiveR · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 4:27 PM

what is it with people being so efficient with their apm? 380 apm/150 epm here

FSDarkNemesis · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 4:55 PM

Just checked mine again... my APM is between 40-60, 80-120 when building researching stuff. Average is 30 EPM.

**nirvAnA** · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 4:58 PM

My apm is 90
Me epam is 80

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Stallion · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 5:03 PM

wow turns out i shouldn't laugh at bryan

just played a game had cold hands but was only going at 130 apm and an epm of 90 :/

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FLuX:

It's okay you're protoss ;D

ETL.noTTuh · Fri, 19th-Oct-2012, 9:33 PM

apm 150-170
epm 100

Mukade · Mon, 22nd-Oct-2012, 4:56 PM

My apm is 80<x<150. Somewhere in that interval.

AssyrianKing · Mon, 22nd-Oct-2012, 7:37 PM

Best thing to improve your APM is to play BroodWar, or else it doesn't really matter

ToRPatto · Tue, 23rd-Oct-2012, 6:43 PM

Gold at about 110... about 50% spam lol

HuT · Tue, 23rd-Oct-2012, 6:50 PM

around 250~

ryrymanpie · Wed, 24th-Oct-2012, 6:28 PM

I think i sit around 70-85ish? Although do you guys go by blizzard apm or real apm?

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ROCCAT_Savior:

blizzard

RuineD · Tue, 25th-Dec-2012, 12:06 AM

300-350 apm
130-145 eapm

Malevolence · Fri, 26th-Oct-2012, 7:28 PM

My APM ranges from 120-180 and is usually sitting around 160 at the end of the game.
I'm a Gold league Protoss.

yichongteo · Sat, 27th-Oct-2012, 11:39 AM

My APM is around 100-120 throughout the game, but I play poorly like 60% of the time, too inconsistent..

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FLuX:

It's okay, I play poorly 100% of the time.

MinosaurBunny · Wed, 21st-Nov-2012, 10:25 AM

I'm Platinum league and I have about 120-150 APM but sometimes I play good or bad.

Stokes · Wed, 21st-Nov-2012, 8:25 PM

just started playing got in bronze avg 40 apm its bad i know lol

ke_ivan · Thu, 22nd-Nov-2012, 1:53 PM

I have an avg 30 apm haha that's why i'm in BRONZE lolololol

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Antel0pe:

apm =/= skill

RVLiveR · Fri, 23rd-Nov-2012, 11:38 PM

To all the people who think that 30-50 apm is bad, 30-50 is actually not bad at all and is definitely sufficient for ~plat or so. Honestly, I had 65 apm (with some spamming) in plat and I did just fine.

**syfSoundwave** · Fri, 23rd-Nov-2012, 11:46 PM

I have no idea what my apm is. It's not too high, though.

wλveLength · Sat, 24th-Nov-2012, 7:28 PM

I'm in Silver and my EAPM is around 50-60. I find I need to be in the zone to get any higher than that!

HunterCG · Mon, 3rd-Dec-2012, 4:47 PM

was averaging 25 - 35. But now I am up to 50 average. I can get 180 in engagements. Sucks being bronze in general. Although I am protoss so it shouldn't be that high anyway.

CUSupreme · Wed, 5th-Dec-2012, 1:14 AM

my APM is roughly 200-250 and eapm of 140

yuu · Fri, 7th-Dec-2012, 7:52 PM

average of 25 most games

OSL0rd · Sat, 8th-Dec-2012, 3:42 AM

APM really dosent matter all that much, important part is where you use that APM.

I play on 160 APM

EPM is about 80-100

Typhoon · Mon, 24th-Dec-2012, 10:31 AM

I dont spam (spam is useless i think). By going off bliz apm at the start of a game i average 40, by finish 100+. The longer the game goes on, the higher it gets. So i'd say i have about 120 - 150 apm to use when i need it.

edit to chow: Cosidering I sit at 50 apm for like 10 - 12 minutes or even 15 minutes (all depends on the game plan) takes awhile for the average to catch up once i start attacking.

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ChowMuddha:

Yeah im just gonna casually pull some spare apm when i feel like it lol

sRDreaM · Mon, 24th-Dec-2012, 6:45 PM

League I avg about 30-40

MezjE · Tue, 25th-Dec-2012, 8:05 AM

70-90apm

I presume it is all eapm apart form at the start :\

Malice · Tue, 25th-Dec-2012, 12:36 PM

10apm. (I'm a Protoss player.)

TidaL · Wed, 26th-Dec-2012, 9:10 AM

my APM is stable at about 60-70 hasn't improved much over 6months, checking from my previous post when i was

i had 30 - 60 now im high

/

and have got a more stable range but not improved that much :O

AxS.pinealan · Wed, 2nd-Jan-2013, 11:48 PM

Apm: ~140 Epm: ~80 Peak: ~300
I am a platinum toss

, but I spam an awful lot

ThorMayCry · Sat, 12th-Jan-2013, 10:49 AM

sometimes I have this feeling of having alot to do in mind, but my apm couldn't keep up

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AxS.pinealan:

there is never enough apm

PengU.Dinofungus · Fri, 26th-Jul-2013, 7:24 AM

I have about 25 apm, but then again I am crap

sR.Kumo · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 4:56 AM

+ [Necroposter!] +

Anyways, on WoL I had around 70 as Toss and when I switched to Zerg right before I got HoTS I was around 80, but now I get around 60 T_T I think the fact that I go for really early roach allins sorta drops my APM, but even in longer games it's no higher than mid 60s >.>

ToRSpookToR · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:19 AM

This thread = "my dick is this big"
EDIT: and i love dick

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FLuX:

ITT: How much spook loves dick

SLCN.NXZ · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:24 AM

Not that much

**syfRize** · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:27 AM

As

- Avg 90 - 110

Switches to

for a week - Avg 150 - 210

Terran too hard.

**mGGNemesis** · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:35 AM

Looking at this thread being revived... So used sc2gears opened up my replays... curious how much has changed since before...

My APM is around 102 and EPM 78

[computed from 168 1v1 games from the servers I seldom play teams on for more accuracy]

about 10 months ago :

Quote:

Originally Posted by mGGNemesis

So APM ranges from 70-102, EPM ranges from 55-89.

sR.Kumo · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:41 AM

Shoo shoo, go away all you non BSG players! >:C This thread is clearly in BSG Discussion, it's a private section just for us special BSG people!

SLCN.Wally · Sat, 27th-Jul-2013, 9:42 AM

I am gold on EU

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syfRize:

I'm also gold.

autopsipath · Mon, 29th-Jul-2013, 9:16 AM

hi everyone i'm bronze league on sea silver on kr(prolly just cause i play kr more) i been working on trying to minimap click more and mouse scroll less and just mouse precision in general, still sitting around 95 -110 (new system) end of game average but i feel like its all useful now as i'm not spamming clicks stupidly thinking i'm pro or whatever, i try to click on individual things rather than box, smallest boxes possible and minimap the **** out of it, i also look at the minimap alot more now which helps alot too, for the swarm

Narse · Tue, 30th-Jul-2013, 9:23 AM

I between 100-130... Not sure how to improve this :s as zerg

DarKcS · Tue, 30th-Jul-2013, 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Narse

I between 100-130... Not sure how to improve this :s as zerg

Start looking at your mechanics a lot more. You'll still need to internalize a lot more, usually one or two things at a time.

Look at your hotkey setup, your control groups. Are they optimal?

I used ~ for basecamera injects for years and recently ditched it for TAB as it's even closer to V and fits my hand more naturally.
I use W for idle worker, Q for patrol allows me to set up worker/ling routes quickly.
Since it's bad practice to have multiple spell casters on a hotkey as zerg (infestors with your main army, no no no!) you won't have to tab through spells, but I find this a problem off-racing, needing a separate profile generally.

Rebinding all my upgrade keys (evos/ spire etc) going ASDF (or ZXCV or QWERT, whatever makes sense to you) means I'm never moving my hand off the WASD cluster for some retarded P or O upgrade - and no the GRID setup is not optimal either as it makes upgrades on other rows weird).

With idle worker on W, I can use F1-F5 for my bases. I use space as another camera for my rally point (also my natural expansion early) which saves a lot of manual fiddling early game.

Camera hotkeys....you never want to be scrolling around the map, it's effectively 0 APM. This is why you want the highest possible mouse scroll speeds, you only ever want your screen to be moved where you need it asap, not precisely.
It did take me a long time to get used to F1-F5 but once you get used to doing worker transfers using F1-F5 it'll save you even more scrolling.
I started off using space as my main camera for a long time as I wasn't comfortable reaching for the F1 keys straight away. Course these are only examples. Don't force yourself to use suboptimal hotkeys or methods that are inefficient, look for those things that slow you down.

Anyhoo, goodluck on your road to

.. SEA at least. It'll be 100 little steps you'll almost never know when you break the plateau but you will.

Quick Comments

RuineD:

"you only ever want your screen to be moved where you need it asap, not precisely" this is so wrong lol

Narse · Tue, 30th-Jul-2013, 7:33 PM

Hmmmm interesting.... i never thought of using the F keys before.... i would need to practice the crap out of that to get out of being use to what i am doing now.

sR.Kumo · Wed, 31st-Jul-2013, 1:27 AM

Yep, when I was getting help from a friend once, one the main things he enforced on me that F1-5 were extremely important as Zerg, for injects and worker management.
(I previously used to assign one hatchery to a control group each :3)

Narse · Wed, 31st-Jul-2013, 4:52 AM

Ya that's what I do currently.. Do you just do ctrl f1 ctrl f2 like you would normally with 1-0?

sR.Kumo · Wed, 31st-Jul-2013, 11:08 PM

You mean to set them? Yeah, I believe the key is the same as the 1-9 setting key (for me, at least, but I've tinkered with the key bindings a fair bit for camera keys and control groups)

theFrOstSoul · Thu, 1st-Aug-2013, 4:45 AM

Well as a Mid-Masters [EU] , Low-Masters [KR] meching

I have around 90-110 APM, which is 90--100 EPM. How ever when i play bio or

which i also play at similar levels i get around 120-160 apm.

unthunder · Mon, 5th-Aug-2013, 8:18 AM

220 as gold, high plat and low diamond

eCKo`Pokemon · Mon, 5th-Aug-2013, 9:14 AM

Around 300

Snx.Mufasa · Mon, 5th-Aug-2013, 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon

Around 300

you kr gm or something?

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syfPhoenix:

I lol'd

eCKo`Pokemon · Mon, 5th-Aug-2013, 9:27 AM

nah hahaha, just high apm, my epm isnt anywhere near as high;

Novice Pandamarine · Thu, 8th-Aug-2013, 7:37 PM

I get around 70 apm, and spike to around 100+ apm in the heat of the moment. Where "heat of the moment" may be waging battles or multiple actions for research and planting new bases.

Delinquio · Sun, 11th-Aug-2013, 1:47 PM

Mine is only like 60 as Zerg I am silver but have only been playing for a few weeks. Brought it up from an average of 20 when I was Bronze xD

Braxeo · Sun, 18th-Aug-2013, 10:14 PM

my average is about 130-140 and i'm in gold, probably going to get less with improvement and not so much spamming haha

AxS.VentraL · Sun, 18th-Aug-2013, 11:16 PM

I'm a protoss bronze player, and my av. game APM goes to around 70-80; however, looking at my replays, while macroing up, it goes to around 50-60, and the times it shoots up is during intense microing, to around 70-90.

SLCN.CautioN · Sun, 18th-Aug-2013, 11:30 PM

avg 170 - 180 as Terran

Dominator · Sun, 18th-Aug-2013, 11:37 PM

About 170-190 average.It increases a bit the longer the game goes on

ZigZiglar · Wed, 4th-Sep-2013, 7:32 AM

What is epm? My performance summary average says 170apm. I spread creep with 2 queens every game fanatically and rarely miss an inject and have decent unit control, however I either forget to scout a lot or simply respond to what I see stupidly. For example last night vs a turtling terran, I played ling bane Muta into ultras. Ling ultra was obliterated by hellbat mass Thor. I held him back for like 10 minutes with pure roaches after I realised ultras sucked, but eventually got steam rolled. So stupid - he was not a good player lol note to self - brood lords!

sR.Kumo · Wed, 4th-Sep-2013, 2:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AxS.Kumo

+ [Necroposter!] +

Anyways, on WoL I had around 70 as Toss and when I switched to Zerg right before I got HoTS I was around 80, but now I get around 60 T_T I think the fact that I go for really early roach allins sorta drops my APM, but even in longer games it's no higher than mid 60s >.>

well, I've started playing actually properly (bronze league properly) and not allin`ing nearly as much, and my APM has gone up to an average of 80-90 :333

Also, ZigZiglar, EPM is your effective actions per minute, so basically your APM with all the spam and pointless clicking / camera jumping etc. removed. (I believe)

L0N3R · Tue, 1st-Oct-2013, 10:27 PM

My highest was 214 as Protoss vs. Harder Protoss A.I, but I usually go with 100-150 on most games.
Currently Silver league.

DilboBaggins · Wed, 2nd-Oct-2013, 12:33 PM

Averages at around 150-170 APM, dipping to 140 occasionally, and maxing at 190 on rare occasions.
Currently Gold League (

)

syfChase · Fri, 4th-Oct-2013, 5:49 PM

How do you silvers and golds get 150+ apm when I was in gold I would average 80ish APM
I average 130-190 now but I don't even know how its possible to get more than I didn't know you guys were Korean

Quick Comments

	sR.Kumo:	75-85 average as bronze (y)
	Matt93:	I was 45-60apm for the longest time, then I found out what control groups were.

sR.Kumo · Fri, 4th-Oct-2013, 5:50 PM

what's your apm
what's your rape E.M.
idk bye

**syfRize** · Sun, 25th-Jan-2015, 12:12 AM

This seems like an appropriate time to bring the e-peen thread back

(Supply block was mostly overlords getting killed at the start, don't h8 m8)

http://i.imgur.com/v9Du87z.jpg

Swarmstika · Sun, 25th-Jan-2015, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fray`SouL

This seems like an appropriate time to bring the e-peen thread back

(Supply block was mostly overlords getting killed at the start, don't h8 m8)

http://i.imgur.com/v9Du87z.jpg

Someone learnt to Losira spam...

I average approximately 200-210 APM per game, on a good day/game however i'll peak at about 230-240 average.