[ToRPandarine]

Calling all ToR-ians! After a long time, it is finally here. The moment you all have been waiting for. I give you

ToR In-House Tournament

The prize? Bragging rights as the unltimate ‘ Bossman’ as well as a sc2sea shirt with the EXACT same title printed on it!

Here is what the Event Managers (well, Liam and I. Zac, Y U NO FB ) have thought up to combat skill differences,

Handicap Levels

Each league has been reviewed and we have decided the amount of Handicap Percentage of the HIGHER league players will have to play at. The table below explains better, I hope.

We will be open to suggestions on the modification of the handicap levels (cause I tried playing with a Hard AI on 50% handicap and it was a massacre). Players of the lower leagues are encouraged to play with no handicaps, especially if they are confident of their skills.

We also have not released a date and time as well as the map pool (most likely a list of current 1v1 maps as well as smome MLG and GSL maps) yet as we want to see the number of ToR-ians playing before we decide a format and how long we will need to run the tournament.

So, what are you waiting for? SIGN UP!

PS: Liam, Zac, post now! :P

Date and Time
21st of April 2012
5pm :: 7pm :: 9pm

RULES:

• ABSOLUTELY no 6-10pool, Worker Rushes or some other weird crap that once reviewed is considered an exploitation of the handicap system.
  
  + [list of no-no's] +

  • Bunker, cannon or spine crawler rush
  • Worker rush
  • Allins involving workers
  • Proxies of anything
  • Anything else and the organisers will have to look through it
• In regards of the above, a player found doing the above will be given a warning and a replay will occur,
• Once a player has received THREE warnings, said player will have to be regrettably removed from the tournament.
• Do not BM, QQ or rage as this is all in fun and laughter (with some pride at stake :P)
• Organisers have full right to tell players how much handicap they must play at

Signups

• Paroxysm
• Psych
• Spook
• Baldie
• Spartaz
• Danosaur
• Djvillian
• Trusty
• Futureboy
• Suipr
• Badman
• JoFritzMD
• Venom
• Kringe
• EchoFive
• superman
• Omallie
• QwerTy
• Shadowz
• HuaJooPark

Groups

Alpha Centurio
LgNPsych
ToRSpook
Kringe
ToREchoFive
Shadowz

Beta o Gamma
Baldie
ToRDjvillian
Venom
superman
ToRQwerTy

Crescendo A
ToRParo
ToRSpartaz
Suipr
Badman
ToRJoFritzMD
Zanderax

Delta Party
ToRDano
Trusty
Futureboy
Omallie
ToRHuaJooPark

Quick Comments

	Baldie:
	ToRVenom:	♥

[ToRFutureBoy]

Hmmmm, yes sorry about the fb thing, I was afk.

This sounds like a brilliant idea, an opportunity for someone like myself to beat Trusty.....loving it.

The handicap thing will be interesting to work out. We should test this more.

[ToRozliam]

very nice owen and yes we shall try the handicaps jut to work out what it should be

[Baldie]

BAM things being organised.

Persoanlly I think it will read easier if you do it from left to right. That is people look at their race on the left and follow it across and at each point it tells them what THEY need to handicap THEMSELVES. So you would need to clear all bronze/silver/gold to 0, and change plat/dia vs masters/gm to 0.

That is just my 0.02.

Handicaps are always a challenge because they skew the match so much, it not only affects units but buildings too I hear.. and even if you are terribad, if you have a GM trying to fight you when you have 1 tank up and it is 1 shotting gateway units.. just lol. It's probably something you would need to do some customs with people or varying leagues and play around with handicaps until both players feel it is appropriate level if this is the model you want to run with!

Quick Comments

ToRPandarine:

i agree...saw a tank 2 shot an immortal...just dont remember wht handicap XD

[ToRozliam]

yea baldie thats why we are going to try it more, the whole idea of that is that a silver league player atleast has a chance of winning not just a top gm in the clan smashes everyone, if you get what i mean

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by ozliam

yea baldie thats why we are going to try it more, the whole idea of that is that a silver league player atleast has a chance of winning not just a top gm in the clan smashes everyone, if you get what i mean

Yeah mate no worries I totally understand what the intentions of this are and as an in-clan tourny you have the added benefit people are all mates and in theory there shouldn't be much, if any, T_T about something being unfair given it is a new idea

It would be a headf**k trying to balance it for a competitive external comp ha!

[Paroxysm]

Im interested

[Kringe]

geez how would gms deal with plat lvl mutas

[ToRFutureBoy]

I believe the handicap changes the HP on units and most likely buildings, I'm ok with a 50% reduction to play a GM.

[pulsePsych]

Sign me up.

[Baldie]

I might as well jump in on the fun too! Let me know if you want a banner done up (I may even contemplate doing a promotional video - depends on time availability)

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=4307 for original thread.

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by Baldie

I might as well jump in on the fun too!

I could play or stream/cast it? Or I guess I could do both and just PoV my gosu play when it's my turn.

All depends on when it is. When we nut out the final details I might see if I can get a co-caster or the like.

[ToRSpookToR]

this is bullshit a silver toss can beat gm terran dont need anymore help lol anyway sign me up GOGO

Quick Comments

ToRFutureBoy:

I look forward to taking you down

[pulsePsych]

^Please do make a video.

[crAzerk]

Won't handicaps mean a 6 pool or worker rush will easily win?

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

Won't handicaps mean a 6 pool or worker rush will easily win?

Insta kick from ToR for that kind of outrageous play. But yes it was in the back of my mind.

Conceptually it has potential, strategically it might not work but hey I like people who think outside the box!

[ToRSpartaz]

ZOMG COME AT ME

I caaaaant waiiiiit this will be a lot of fun guys

[ToRdanO]

Sign me up !!!!!!

[ToRDarKnoob]

how can u win at 50% the bronze guy scv rush = GG

[ToRdanO]

Originally Posted by DarKnoob

how can u win at 50% the bronze guy scv rush = GG

You can wall !

Quick Comments

|Erasmus|:

Terran Imba

[ToRDarKnoob]

Originally Posted by Danosaur

You can wall !

somewhere a zerg guy is crying

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by DarKnoob

somewhere a zerg guy is crying

i wonder how hellions do against 50% health spine crawlers

[Baldie]

Stim marauder vs 50% buildings.. that will be a sight

[ToRDjvillian]

sign me up to play! you know ive been bugging the ever changing organisers for the past year since the last one

[ToRDjvillian]

also when will the event be?

[ToRozliam]

we are working out a date, this weekend we couldnt do it as im going hunting for dogs, but if we have enough people we may be looking t next weekend. and yes we might put in rules that you cant worker rush or 6 pool with someone that has 50 handi, just a suggestion

[Trusty]

Sign me up,

I wouldn't mind playing some test against against BSG, to test out the 50% handicap.

At first thought, it seems really imba..

[ToRFutureBoy]

Originally Posted by trusty

sign me up,

i wouldn't mind playing some test against against bsg, to test out the 50% handicap.

At first thought, it seems really imba..

come at me

[ToRFutureBoy]

A pro should be able to micro well enough....hehehhee no?

[Trusty]

Originally Posted by FutureBoy

A pro should be able to micro well enough....hehehhee no?

a 22hp marine vs a 60/100 zealot :P???????

[ToRFutureBoy]

Originally Posted by Trusty

a 22hp marine vs a 60/100 zealot :P???????

I'm terrible remember?

[ToRPandarine]

looking a the concerns of worker rushes and all...im discussing it right now...will update uguys and like the OP said, we will look at the response thn come up wit something :P

EDIT: voting has been passed! will update OP soon

[Trusty]

I can see FutureBoy playing me, and waiting till the "no worker rush" time-limit has been reached, then a moving all his probes + some zealots......

Quick Comments

	|Erasmus|:	get a void ray out by then :p
	mGGNemesis:

[ToRFutureBoy]

Would I do that to you? Just to say I've beaten an iMaster player?

Yes

Yes I would

Quick Comments

Trusty:

salty. salty toss.

[ToRPandarine]

UPDATED OP!

Its all in fun and shizz anyways...that and if all our and players want that Bossman shirt, you gotta earn it. And what better way thn to show,

"50pc handicap? Come at me bro!!! CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!!! "

[ToRFutureBoy]

Oh yeah depending on time and date I'm in too....

[Trusty]

Yeah true need a date/time

[AsylumofSouls]

Put me on the list.
Still happy to be

[ToRSpookToR]

i love how this tournament was made by no one over plat? i think sorry if i am wrong lol. TIME TO EZ

[ToRozliam]

stop bming spook

[Badman]

sign me up

[JoFritzMD]

gimme some of dat sweet sweet handicap.

[ToRVenom]

Sign me up!

[ToRPandarine]

ok, we have decided tht the 28th of April, I repeat the TWENTY EIGHTH of April is the Game Day. so, clean ur schedules lads, its gonna be a long ride :P make sure u prac wit all tht handicap! :P

ps: sign ups still open and nothin other thn the rules set abv and day are now fixed locked and un(?)negotiable! :P

will update op whn I get home :P

[ToRFutureBoy]

No correspondence will be entered into

Judges decision is final!

[ToRDjvillian]

unfortunately i must withdraw my application to attend. that day is the second day of my on call roster which means i work from 1pm aest up untill 10:30pm aest and therefore would not be able to compete.

Quick Comments

ToRSmotPokingFish:

awww sooo cute :D

[Kringe]

I'm in and I'm only Dia so **** yeah boi

[Jaywalk]

IN.

10char

[ToRSpookToR]

kringe is smurf also can a friend of mine sign up? Zhunta he is only silver so ezpz

[Baldie]

I'm going to have to pull out too. I have a 21st on that night.. not that I was going to win anyway but will mean i won't be able to stream..

Well actually pre-drinks + casting a clan tournament = potential amusement

Depends on the timing of the event as to whether I can do both

[oo0zula0oo]

ill sign up~

[ToRDjvillian]

any chance of moving it back a week?

[Omallie]

Sign me up, this sounds like fun.

[ToRDarKnoob]

i have an idea instead of handicaps have a point based system 1 point for a 2-1 win 2 points for a 2-0 win and lower the league the more points they start off at for instance bronze starts at 10 points silver at 8 gold at 6 platinum at 4 diamond at 2 and m/gm at 0 just an idea

[ToRPandarine]

Originally Posted by DarKnoob

i have an idea instead of handicaps have a point based system 1 point for a 2-1 win 2 points for a 2-0 win and lower the league the more points they start off at for instance bronze starts at 10 points silver at 8 gold at 6 platinum at 4 diamond at 2 and m/gm at 0 just an idea

eg. vs Bo3 0-2 wins. What does get?

it also puts the / players in a diff spot cause they need 10 points to catch which is possible but that means they need to win 5 Bo3s 2-0 to get 10 points! D:

ps dont take bo3 as the format we are going.

pps moving the day back by 1 week :3

[ToRSpartaz]

Sexy
10char

[ToRQwerTy]

=D Sign me Up

ToRQwerTy

[Dexterique]

Love the concept of this crazy idea! Panda and Liam, could you guys set the time when the game starts? I need to know if I could make or not and good luck to those "Bossman" wanna be

[ToRozliam]

i think we were looking at changing the dates i was actually thinking i might have a look if we can run this as a week tournament or a 2 day tournament as some people may not be able to come on some dates?

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

awww man i may have been able to play the 28th, but pushing it back a week means i do not think i can best of luck to any chobos who are going after that title that should be mine
GLHF
ToR FIGHTING!!!!

[KAshadowz]

looks fun!
if this takes place over weekends sign me up
otherwise I won't have time to, fingers crossed for weekends

[ToRDjvillian]

Maybe have 2 tournaments on 2 different weeks but players can only compete in 1 week. Next make the winners from both weeks face off in an grand final

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

Originally Posted by ToRDjvillian

Maybe have 2 tournaments on 2 different weeks but players can only compete in 1 week. Next make the winners from both weeks face off in an grand final

but what if lots of good players are in one while bad ones in the other? then its a bit of one sided final?
IDK?

[ToRPandarine]

Originally Posted by SmotPokingFish

but what if lots of good players are in one while bad ones in the other? then its a bit of one sided final?
IDK?

which is why itll prolly be seeded by the organisers :P ppl like dj, baldie etc who hv commitments will hv to tell us which week free and which not...thn everyone wins!

[ToRVenom]

Put me in!

[ToRPandarine]

updated op with all the following below

Date and Time
20th/21st/22nd of April 2012
5pm :: 7pm :: 9pm

Important note:
To avoid clash with BSG, GPD and possibly ACL, we are going to be a lil flexible and want to hear what you guys have to say.

RULES:

• ABSOLUTELY no 6-10pool, Worker Rushes or some other weird crap that once reviewed is considered an exploitation of the handicap system.
  
  + [list of no-no's] +

  • Bunker, cannon or spine crawler rush
  • Worker rush
  • Allins involving workers
  • Proxies of anything
  • Anything else and the organisers will have to look through it
• In regards of the above, a player found doing the above will be given a warning and a replay will occur,
• Once a player has received THREE warnings, said player will have to be regrettably removed from the tournament.
• Do not BM, QQ or rage as this is all in fun and laughter (with some pride at stake :P)
• Organisers have full right to tell players how much handicap they must play at

Signups

• Paroxysm
• Psych
• Spook
• Baldie
• Spartaz
• Danosaur
• Djvillian
• Trusty
• Futureboy
• Suipr
• Badman
• JoFritzMD
• Venom
• Kringe
• EchoFive
• superman
• Omallie
• QwerTy
• Shadowz
• HuaJooPark

[Fraser]

how do we get involved! :O looks awesome!

[ToRPandarine]

SIGN UPS CLOSE ON THE 19TH OF APRIL!

If you are in and have yet to register, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

Originally Posted by Fraser

how do we get involved! :O looks awesome!

you need to be part of

[ToRPandarine]

oh and to those ToR-ians who posted but didnt clearly say, 'Sign me up' please tell me are you signing up?? D:

[ToRPandarine]

Groups:-

Alpha Centurio

LgNPsych
ToRSpook
Kringe
ToREchoFive
Shadowz

Beta o Gamma

Baldie
ToRDjvillian
Venom
superman
ToRQwerTy

Crescendo A

ToRParo
ToRSpartaz
Suipr
Badman
ToRJoFritzMD

Delta Party

ToRDano
Trusty
Futureboy
Omallie
ToRHuaJooPark

[ToRSpartaz]

YUUUUUS YOU GIVE SPARTAZ DAT PvZ

[Zanderax]

Sign me up.

[ToRFutureBoy]

I get to beat with Dano and Trusty? What a draw!

[ToRSpookToR]

even though i think the handicap thing is crap looks to be a fairly good group also what if master vs master or diamond vs diamond can you just bugger the random rules and play at 100% handicap

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by Spo0k

even though i think the handicap thing is crap looks to be a fairly good group also what if master vs master or diamond vs diamond can you just bugger the random rules and play at 100% handicap

Lame sif I don't get to troll/play you.

If it is same league group vs same league group it becomes a normal game. So dunno what you are concerned about.

The rush rules, as far as I am aware, only affect games where handicap come into affect. If you want to do your standard spook scv all in vs a master or GM I don't see how that is a problem.. will await what organisers say though.

[Baldie]

My availability assuming it is AEST.

Friday 20th I can't make it.
Saturday 21st I will be available.
Sunday 22nd I will be available.

Also what is the plan? We vs each player in our group in a BO1? BO3? Top 2 go forward? Apologies if I missed the post explaining the actual running of it

[ToRPandarine]

Originally Posted by ToRBaldie

If it is same league group vs same league group it becomes a normal game

Originally Posted by ToRBaldie

f you want to do your standard spook scv all in vs a master or GM I don't see how that is a problem

sums it up...i believe we are goin with a bo1 grp where the top 2 will thn duke it out in bo3 qf followed by a bo3 sf...finals will be a bo5...i am aware tht we are goin to conflict with ACL as well as BSG (assuming ACL doesnt cut into it ><) but we'll make the best we can eh?

[breadfan]

GM have to play at 70% health vs diamond?

Looks like diamonds are gonna win this one.

[ToRPandarine]

Originally Posted by breadfan

GM have to play at 70% health vs diamond?
Looks like diamonds are gonna win this one.

i hv thought abt it...tho, idk how the rest of the triumvirate feel abt it...90pc sounds like a good enuff handicap...even no handicap :P but we will decide on tht day me thinks

[ToRDjvillian]

So what is the format of our matches and is it still tonight? Update op.
If we have vs everyone in our group then make my first match a bye so I can get kids ready for bed.

[ToRPandarine]

Format is the following,

GROUP
Best of 1
Matches to be posted soon

QUARTER FINALS
Best of 3
No 1 of A vs No 2 of B (I)
No 2 of A vs No 1 of B (II)

No 1 of C vs No 2 of D (III)
No 2 of C vs No 1 of D (IV)

SEMI FINALS
Best of 3
Winner of I vs Winner of III
Winner of II vs Winner of IV

FINALS
Best of 5

Quick Comments

Baldie:

Organisation bam