[Doctor]

Hey there peeps ,
so i went surfing on the internet and found out about Lucid Dreaming.

A lucid dream is any dream in which one is aware that one is dreaming. In a lucid dream, the dreamer may be able to exert some degree of control over their participation within the dream or be able to manipulate their imaginary experiences in the dream environment. Lucid dreams can be realistic and vivid. It is shown that there are higher amounts of beta-1 frequency band (13–19 Hz) experienced by lucid dreamers, hence there is an increased amount of activity in the parietal lobes making lucid dreaming a conscious process.

I also found out that we can do this on purpose and with practice we can control our dream ?
Is it real ? Has anyone here happen to deal with lucid dream in your life ?

[nGenLight]

I do this about twice every week, the trick is to get so tired that you will literally fall asleep wen u jump on the bed, then force urself to be alert as possible, enjoy your deepest fantasies from there.

I discovered this 6 years ago; was the central theme of my 4 unit english story, it took a while to be able to do it, you gotta find what works for you and the control you have in it varies. Some people are able to 100% control their dreams from the get-go without even knowing about lucid dreaming. It is all about abusing your alertness whilst at the REM stage of the sleep cycle.

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Bash:

Pro dreamer?

[iMSystem]

It is real, and there are many documented events of it happening, and how to make it happen.
I believe you can't make it happen straight out of nowhere you have to build up to it over a few weeks.

Although, there are also risks to doing it.

[Doctor]

Originally Posted by System

It is real, and there are many documented events of it happening, and how to make it happen.
I believe you can't make it happen straight out of nowhere you have to build up to it over a few weeks.

Although, there are also risks to doing it.

What did you mean by the risks ?
I heard people will hear voices , demon or old woman sitting on top and so on and other nightmares ?

[mGGDrGooSe]

I lucid dream all the time, normally just before waking up. To my knowledge these are the only dreams I have. But yeah I remmeber being able to take control of them and deciding where they go. Not always in logical directions.

[breadfan]

I've had one or two in my life, both when I was younger. Some people experience it more often.

[ToRSpartaz]

This was quite interesting I find watching videos that trigger your senses actually manage to trigger lucid dreams Day[J] DDDD

[Zepph]

Yeah it's for real...i managed it a couple of times when i got stuck with some good old sleep paralysis.

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LiviBee:

ive experienced that too zepph :( its horrible

[ToR.Arnor]

Yeah I go through periods where I have lucid dreams multiple times a week then none for ages

I can say its true, no idea how it happens, I can say its pretty darn cool at times and scary as hell at others

[iM yang]

I've tried inducing it but whenever I tried it never worked. I thought I had a lucid dream, but it was just a dream where I was aware I was in a dream, I couldn't control anything

[Nemo]

Yeah, it happens to me sometimes. I dream I'm good and I hit the find button. Sadly the dream come often at an abrupt end during the game.

[Sc2Clare]

hmm... i havent tried this or had any of this experience. one of my friend has this experience often. he always goes to that state and fantasizes. if you know what i mean...

[nirvAnA]

Speaking from experience, lucid dreaming is actually very real.

The basic premise on how it works is for you being able to realize you are dreaming while in your dream, and then take control of it. If i recall the steps to this were

1. Jumping in your dream, the physics is different so you float usually or theres a slow mo effect and I think something about looking at the time pass on your watch.
2. You are supposed to do these checks in real life till it becomes a habit to check when you're dreaming too.
3. Once you realise you're in your dream world, you can literally dream of anything.

When I was like 18 I had a huge crush on Catherine Zeta Jones.

+ [NSFW] +

So when I realised I was dreaming, I made myself open my door and have her appear loving behind it. Not going to go into anymore details but that was the most amazing dream I have had in my life and till this day I still remember it because it felt SO REAL!!!

Unfortunately after that, I tried repeating it but she was never there again (dunno what i did wrong she just never appeared) and after that I was too lazy to read up how to fix it so that was the end of my lucid dreaming days and I never bothered again as my mission for lucid dreaming was accomplished heheheheeeeeeeee

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[Doctor]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Speaking from experience, lucid dreaming is actually very real.

The basic premise on how it works is for you being able to realize you are dreaming while in your dream, and then take control of it. If i recall the steps to this were

1. Jumping in your dream, the physics is different so you float usually or theres a slow mo effect and I think something about looking at the time pass on your watch.
2. You are supposed to do these checks in real life till it becomes a habit to check when you're dreaming too.
3. Once you realise you're in your dream world, you can literally dream of anything.

When I was like 18 I had a huge crush on Catherine Zeta Jones.

+ [NSFW] +

So when I realised I was dreaming, I made myself open my door and have her appear loving behind it. Not going to go into anymore details but that was the most amazing dream I have had in my life and till this day I still remember it because it felt SO REAL!!!

Unfortunately after that, I tried repeating it but she was never there again (dunno what i did wrong she just never appeared) and after that I was too lazy to read up how to fix it so that was the end of my lucid dreaming days and I never bothered again as my mission for lucid dreaming was accomplished heheheheeeeeeeee

How did you start the phase to enter ur lucid dreaming ?

[nirvAnA]

Originally Posted by Doctor

How did you start the phase to enter ur lucid dreaming ?

Downloaded an audio tape one day, listened to it for 60 mins. Starting "jumping" IRL (i dont really jump tho i just think to myself this is the jump test timing) and in dreams. Then one day i finally remember to do the jump test in one of my dreams and bam i was jumping and realized it was a dream and i could control it to some degree.

As Drgoose says if you control it too much it becomes too fake (or you get too excited lol) your mind doesn't believe it and you wake up so i think theres a delicate balance to maintain.

[Doctor]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Downloaded an audio tape one day, listened to it for 60 mins. Starting "jumping" IRL (i dont really jump tho i just think to myself this is the jump test timing) and in dreams. Then one day i finally remember to do the jump test in one of my dreams and bam i was jumping and realized it was a dream and i could control it to some degree.

As Drgoose says if you control it too much it becomes too fake (or you get too excited lol) your mind doesn't believe it and you wake up so i think theres a delicate balance to maintain.

Can you link me the audio tape ? i want to try but it seems so scary :|

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by Doctor

How did you start the phase to enter Catherine Zeta Jones ?

Oh, Doctor ...

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TCPLemminks:

i too would like to know

[TCPLemminks]

I never seem to be able to remember my dreams T_T, I only remember like 5 in total.

Also surprised no one has made an Inception reference yet

[AsylumofSouls]

You may want to check this site out - BranWave Generator
It's got ideas along the same lines and I find it similarly interesting

[nGenLight]

Lemminks: I was pretty pissed when I saw inception because it was literally the same theme of my 4 unit english story, so I had that feeling of " I DID THIS SHIT 10 YEARS AGO, I COULDA MADE MONEY FROM IT OMG"

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[mGGDrGooSe]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Unfortunately after that, I tried repeating it but she was never there again (dunno what i did wrong she just never appeared) and after that I was too lazy to read up how to fix it so that was the end of my lucid dreaming days and I never bothered again.

I would assume that when you woke up you were so ecstatic that you got it to work, but at the same this imprinted it being very fake, thus you could never fool yourself into believing it again.

Usually when I lucid dream, its probably about 5 mornings out of 7 for anywhere between a long and a little time (dream time). And each and everytime I've no doubt it's just my brain trying to find a way to stay in bed a little longer. The more I try to take control of things, the sooner I wake up though, cos I know what's going on.

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nirvAnA:

Great point. arghhhhhhh!!

[Arma]

It's very real and I've accidentally done it twice - note that it can cause temporary sleep paralysis if it fails . First time I was not sure what was happening as the dream broke and I was in sleep paralysis for a minute - basically was awake and couldnt move my body, with a feeling as if a ghost was holding my body down - scared the shit out of me. Apparently the best way to get out of sleep paralysis is to just focus on moving one small part of ur body e.g. pinky finger - that tells your brain that you are awake and slowly removes you from the paralysis . I'm no expert on this but that's what i've read/heard.

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Zepph:

Thats how it works for me!

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by Arma

It's very real and I've accidentally done it twice - note that it can cause temporary sleep paralysis if it fails . First time I was not sure what was happening as the dream broke and I was in sleep paralysis for a minute - basically was awake and couldnt move my body, with a feeling as if a ghost was holding my body down - scared the shit out of me. Apparently the best way to get out of sleep paralysis is to just focus on moving one small part of ur body e.g. pinky finger - that tells your brain that you are awake and slowly removes you from the paralysis . I'm no expert on this but that's what i've read/heard.

Thats what that is?

Yeah Ive had sleep paralysis so many times I freaken hate it, as a kid seriously scared the utter crap out of me

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Arma

It's very real and I've accidentally done it twice - note that it can cause temporary sleep paralysis if it fails . First time I was not sure what was happening as the dream broke and I was in sleep paralysis for a minute - basically was awake and couldnt move my body, with a feeling as if a ghost was holding my body down - scared the shit out of me. Apparently the best way to get out of sleep paralysis is to just focus on moving one small part of ur body e.g. pinky finger - that tells your brain that you are awake and slowly removes you from the paralysis . I'm no expert on this but that's what i've read/heard.

Sleep paralysis is more to do with when you wake up (i.e. during REM) than the lucid dreaming.

[Antel0pe]

LOL. but there is the danger of it is the dream becoming a nightmare. O.O

[Larotac]

Originally Posted by Antelope

LOL. but there is the danger of it is the dream becoming a nightmare. O.O

i don't believe that is possible, because when you are having a lucid dream, you are in full control of the dream, meaning that if it does turn into a nightmare it is because you wanted to go into a nightmare etc..

also, i read about this last year, attempted to try it but got lazy and stopped trying before i could have one, i will probably start trying again in a couple of weeks

[nirvAnA]

Sleep paralysis is another subject altogether. Yea chinese say its a ghost sitting on top of your body but scientifically its when your mind wakes up before your body. Happened to me once before and it was super scary especially when everyone around me I told said it was a ghost sitting on top of me. (They just didn't know better lol!)

[Asrathiel]

Originally Posted by Drgoose

And each and everytime I've no doubt it's just my brain trying to find a way to stay in bed a little longer.

Bwahahaha, that's funny

And I was gonna say that in a rep comment, but you have 69 points and I like it like that

I don't think I've ever done the dream thing... my dreams are weird enough as it is

ETA: argh Nirvana, you broke it, now he doesn't have 69 points any more...

[nGenLight]

Mild and Wild, look it up, I prefer Wild, its more consistent. But you do have to be pretty damn sleepy.

[nGenLight]

Yeh its heaps scary, sometimes you'll never wake up and shit

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SLCN.NXZ:

thought was serious, then realised it was you who posted it :P

[Doctor]

oh and i find out these on youtube...
scares the shit out of me and afraid to try..

You Tube

You Tube

[nirvAnA]

can't remember the exact name doctor, it was a while back. did a quick google search and these two pages seem like a really good resource.

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_D...ion_Techniques

audio tapes are only good if u're like jogging / cooking and want to be more productive if not learning it in written form is a much faster way to absorb information.

[nGenLight]

Oh and you don't actually die if you die in dream.

There was a theory where if your brain thinks your dead, aren't you well, dead?

The problem is your brain doesn't know how to die, it's never experienced death before. The death that you dreamed about is just your imagination of what death may be like, but as you wouldn't have a clue - you'll always be waking up.

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[FvRsolis]

Yeah, I can say this is valid. I've been doing it since I was around 12-13 years old.. basically I was going through some rough times, and for some reason my dreams and my reality mirrored each other at the time, so I was consciously doing things in my dreams that I would do in real life.. and when I started to realize I was sleeping, well things only got better from there. I started exploring dreams, and finding little annoyances and inconsistencies with my own imagination, and I've done it on occasion ever since.

Except, when I do it now.. I feel like I haven't slept, so I generally avoid it aha.

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breadfan:

missing out on delta wave sleep, so your brain isn't as well rested

[gandalf5000]

Originally Posted by FvRsolis

Except, when I do it now.. I feel like I haven't slept, so I generally avoid it aha.

Everyone I've spoken to about it says the same thing, I don't get enough sleep as it is tho, but at the same time i'm still curious

[ToRVenom]

Everyone night! thats why i love dreaming.. I pretty muhc have full control over them

[deL]

I have at least one of these almost every night, and I dream for like the whole night and some are kinda weird :/

[ZiggyD]

Pretty funny to see a thread on lucid dreaming here. I used to read a lot of Steve Pavlina's blog and he talked a lot about it and his experiences with it. If you are giving it a try yourself then check out his blog.

[raycey]

My dreams are so messed up I couldn't put them into words if I tried. Though there have been a couple of times where I think I was conscious of the dream but had no idea. Never heard of lucid dreaming before so maybe that's what those occasions were. Kinda trippy, like my dreams in general. I hate my dreams, they're almost always bad dreams (not sure I'd go so far as to call them nightmares). Maybe I should try getting into lucid dreaming to force my dreams in a more desirable direction. Oh man that'd be awesome.

[Fourby]

There have actually been goggles that were put in testing (not sure if produced), where they would read your REM's and when it recognized u were dreaming, it would flash a red light.
Not bright enough to wake you up, but enough to make you aware you are dreaming within your dream.

These were meant to be made for artists/etc. something about being able to have a much greater creative ability while dreaming.

[Maynarde]

I either have horrifying nightmares or don't dream at all. My brain doesn't like me

[neKo]

After reading this thread I'm legitimately scared

[dKiWi]

Originally Posted by neko

After reading this thread I'm legitimately scared

lucid dreaming is one of those commonly explored themes on horror/paranormal text and image boards on the internet. It is one of those less scary ones, though. I'm surprised someone started a thread about it here. I would be even more surprised if someone shared their actual experiences.

It is dangerous because you might get addicted to it and never want to wake up. The thrill involved is of course getting into the state in the first place.

[Sedz]

A test I used to do was write a letter on my hand, whenever I saw that letter in real life on my hand, I would touch something solid, based on the theory that if you were dreaming, the objects you touch do not feel 'solid' and therefore if you happened to look at your hand in your dream, you would jump into habit and touch something, and recognise it does not feel solid and therefore would realise you were dreaming.

It worked okay. The first two times I did it I realised I was dreaming, which caused a jump of excitement which woke me up.

A few times after this I managed to control excitement and the dream, they're pretty amazing.

I ended up not continuing on with my routine and got out of the habit, that was about 2 years ago.

Occasionally I will have dreams where I tell myself I am dreaming, I am in a dream, but not realise what I've just said therefore I won't be able to control it.

[wTlzq]

The start of inception

[Welshy]

I am dreaming within my own dream lol so messed up

[TAEdarus]

Sleep Paralysis
I've encountered sleep paralysis three times in my life and basically the short of it is you wake up, however the mechanism where your brain 'disconnects' from your body (to prevent you acting out your dreams and potentially injuring yourself) doesn't stop.

So people wake up without control over much other than their eyes and breathing.

Coupled with this having just awoken during a REM cycle (thats when it happens) your brain is still hyper-active and semi-dreaming, leading to hallucinations and other sensory perceptions which are false.

Most people experience a "presence" (the feeling you're being watched / someones in the room with you) and also feelings of chest compression, fear and hopelessness in more extreme cases.

The fun part is trying to call out and not being able to do more than very quietly moan, then trying to move and realising you can't do anything cept look around in the dark room with your eyes. I usually cure this by falling back asleep and letting my body work itself out.

Lucid Dreaming
As for lucid dreaming i've only had it four or five times... Protip how to shortcut to lucid dreaming? Nicotine patches worn overnight (daytime full-strength ones).

For some reason (and there have been studies into this but I forget the reasoning) leaving a patch on when you go to sleep allows this. Theres even warnings on the packets saying something like "wearing while sleeping may induce vivid / lucid dreams in some individuals".

Nothing like taking a boring dream from watching a family dinner to goin all Dragonball Z on their asses and blowin' shit up

[TCPKiaSu]

this is so interesting.... yes I've had this dream where I was stuck in my house and I realized it was a dream but I couldn't get out of it no matter what I tried

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by TCPKiaSu

this is so interesting.... yes I've had this dream where I was stuck in my house and I realized it was a dream but I couldn't get out of it no matter what I tried

Had something similar to that as a child... I opened the door to leave my room and it was blocked on the other end with shelves and squishy stuff...

Turned out I was awake and trying to exit my room via the wardrobe - massive panic attack ensued until I worked it out! Thankfully, Narnia was not located in my wardrobe or I woulda been MORE screwed!

[TCPKiaSu]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

Sleep Paralysis I've encountered sleep paralysis three times in my life and basically the short of it is you wake up, however the mechanism where your brain 'disconnects' from your body (to prevent you acting out your dreams and potentially injuring yourself) doesn't stop.

does this have relation to sleep walking? because it's like the brain somehow connects back to the body and the body is reaction with the dream

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by TCPKiaSu

does this have relation to sleep walking? because it's like the brain somehow connects back to the body and the body is reaction with the dream

Honestly I have no idea haha!

Off to wikipedia, brb!

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Sleepwalking, also known as somnambulism, is a sleep disorder belonging to the parasomnia family.[2] Sleepwalkers arise from the slow wave sleep stage in a state of low consciousness and perform activities that are usually performed during a state of full consciousness.

So with sleepwalking you awaken before REM sleep (different sleep cycle to sleepwalking)... Similar idea, except you're barely concious and I guess muscle memory / routine / instinct take over. This differs to Sleep Paralysis as Sleep Paralysis you're fully concious and aware, but rather your body is 'disconnected' from your brain, yet your brain is still experiencing some of the bonus hallucination effects of dreaming.

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TCPKiaSu:

cool

[crAzerk]

I actually read about this some years ago and it fascinated me so I went to look for tutorials as to how to lucid dreaming.

One method it suggests is that you lie on your bed when you are really sleepy (as Light says) and as your eyes drift close you quickly jerk it open to rouse yourself and continue staring at the ceiling or something. Keep doing this and you eventually slip into the lucid dreaming mode.

I've tried this a few times but gave up after it didn't work. I've had several semi-lucid dreams (most of them involves flying) but most lucid ones I've had quickly resulted in me waking up (almost always involving me looking for a toilet and needing to pee then I wake up and need to go and pee)

[NDG.Stitch]

Definitely real. Happens a lot to me, usually with crushes but that's a secret.

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TCPKiaSu:

same ;)