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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 3:16 AM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 1
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Protoss or Zerg

o one thing i have been finding is a patern emerging on ladder i play as toss for a week than lose and play bad a week than i play zerg awesomly for a week than play avg fr a week and than the cycle starts over again idk about you guys but i really enjoy both of these races and i want to master one of the races but idk which one atm im sticking with toss cause i made a deal with my 2v2 partner that if i change race next time i see him in person he can hit me in the balls stupid i know , so i am making this thread for your opinions Zerg or Protoss and why ????
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 7:49 AM BnetId: Rythos.198  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 75 # 2
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It's really something you have to figure out for yourself. If there was a "better" race, we'd all be playing it :P As a low-level player who's race-switched several times I can certainly empathize with your situation though.

My favourite race is Zerg. I think they have the coolest units and I just love the swarm style of play and the way they look in action. Easily my favourite race to watch. However, after spending a bit of time playing Zerg I just didn't feel like it was the race for me. I struggled with the drone/unit dichotomy, keeping up with larva injection and creep spread was a hassle, and I just found myself feeling really vulnerable a lot of the time, particularly in the early game. These aren't complaints about the race, I'm sure I could have improved these things if I wanted to, it just didn't feel "good" to me.

Protoss, on the other hand, makes more sense to me. The macro style seems neater and I just feel more comfortable using Protoss units in general. I'm still a pretty terrible Protoss player in the grand scheme of things and I lose plenty of games, but I at least usually have some sort of plan as Protoss, whereas with Zerg I often felt lost.

When I was struggling to make up my mind, one of my mates suggested I play Random for a couple of weeks to see if there was a particular race I was happiest to spawn as. Maybe that is something you could try.

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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 7:56 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 3
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Playing random doesn't give you quite the same feel for the race as actually playing the race though, because people always play differently against you as random to if you spawned as a particular race they know about.

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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 4:59 PM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 4
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yeah i dont exactly want o play random cause i suck balls as terran but yeah im pre even as zerg and toss i enjoy both teams equal but seem to be wining more as zerg on ladder and thats what makes me want to be zerg but in HOTS the tempest is going to be able to take down mass muta which is a strat i like as zerg but hate as toss and will fix that and moving banes are going to be awesome and ultraa charge is going to be awesome so yeah idk who to go i want to be great with one not ok with both ....

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mass muta isn't even a problem to protoss with some pheonix micro, i doubt the tempest will go through
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 5:04 PM BnetId: Bash 500  BattleTag: Bash#6746  Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 544 # 5
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yeah i dont exactly want o play random cause i suck balls as terran but yeah im pre even as zerg and toss i enjoy both teams equal but seem to be wining more as zerg on ladder and thats what makes me want to be zerg but in HOTS the tempest is going to be able to take down mass muta which is a strat i like as zerg but hate as toss and will fix that and moving banes are going to be awesome and ultraa charge is going to be awesome so yeah idk who to go i want to be great with one not ok with both ....
Just remember that none of those things announced are Guaranteed to be in HotS, and the game will change ALOT.

Just Play whatever feels FUN. some days i play random, some days i play Protoss, and some days i play Zerg, play what you wanna playa t the time, you'll get better at both. ^_^
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 5:25 PM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 6
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" play what you wanna playa t the time, you'll get better at both. ^_^"
well i have to use a day 9 analogy he said be afraid of the guy who has practiced 1 ick 10000 times of the guy who has practiced 10000 kicks once so yeah idk i feel obligate to play one race that will get me to GM (hopefully) ... alll im trying to say is i love them both alot but idk which to choose like do i take the steak or do i eat the lasagna they are both so nice yet which one is better for me
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 5:44 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Apth.767  Race: Location: Auckland, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 414 # 7
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Zerg is more 'organic' - tech switches are easier, decision making is more reactionary, games have more flow than structure.

Protoss is more 'mechanical' - tech paths are defined, you're more often dictating reactions from your opponents, gameplans are carefully thought out and executed.

Think about how you play games - not just Starcraft - and what kind of person you are. Then pick.

Or flip a coin. Whatever.
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 6:07 PM Race: Location: Brisbane Australia  Total Posts Made: 134 # 8
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I played Toss for 2 seasons, switched to random for a season, now I'm zerg and haven't looked back... Just because you choose one now doesn't mean you can't change in the future. Just go for it and if you decide it was the wrong decision, go for the other one.

I do suggest you go protoss though... Too many Zergs on sea...
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 7:03 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: iMyang.427  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Victoria, Australia  Total Posts Made: 633 # 9
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 7:14 PM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 10
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ok thanks this has helped me alot im leaning to zerg but i think i need to choose one and next season change to toss give them a go long term i do find i like the fact i see them go 4 gate zealot with some stalkers i do like the fact that last game my ling harrass into roach was done really well with being 2 bases ahead and have a spire almost done to transition out of ling roach into roach muta
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Unread Tue, 31st-Jan-2012, 7:25 PM Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 346 # 11
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Unread Sun, 5th-Feb-2012, 11:11 PM BnetId: Rain 889  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 28 # 12
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I had the same problem as you for awhile, in the end it comes down to a stylistic choice. Both races have their difficulties and their comforts but i feel the best way to choose is to figure it out in terms of style. Do you prefer power or agility? Protoss being power and zerg being agility. Or Warriors vs rogues, Thunder vs lightning, or if you prefer the obvious comparison of predator vs alien
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Unread Mon, 6th-Feb-2012, 12:33 PM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 13
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I had the same problem as you for awhile, in the end it comes down to a stylistic choice. Both races have their difficulties and their comforts but i feel the best way to choose is to figure it out in terms of style. Do you prefer power or agility? Protoss being power and zerg being agility. Or Warriors vs rogues, Thunder vs lightning, or if you prefer the obvious comparison of predator vs alien
well i have decided im going to play a bit of both mainly toss but i still do love to play a lil bit of zerg but thanks for all your imput
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Unread Thu, 9th-Feb-2012, 9:13 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 11 # 14
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The thing that makes Zerg cool to me (ok even though I play T ) is how quickly you can change techs, army comps, everything. As long as you have the tech structure in place, you can instantly spawn 100 supply worth of any unit. Protoss has to choose between gateway, robo, and stargate tech. Even if he chooses to make some of each, he cannot instantly summon an army the same way Zerg can.
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Unread Thu, 9th-Feb-2012, 11:17 AM BnetId: Djvillian.5??  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 647 # 15
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go protoss. to many zerg on sea
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Unread Sat, 11th-Feb-2012, 8:41 PM BnetId: tartarsause. 809  Race: Location: Singapore, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 9 # 16
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Go zerg, its cooler haha
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Unread Fri, 6th-Apr-2012, 12:47 AM Race: Location: Mongolia  Total Posts Made: 14 # 17
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if you kinda lazy then go protoss because creep spread and larva inject is easy to forget
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Unread Fri, 6th-Apr-2012, 9:28 AM BnetId: RemainHidden. 294  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 25 # 18
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I find zerg generally more fun but protoss is relaxing and not so "competitive" imo. If I would start from scratch, I would definitely say Zerg, it is such a versatile and powerful race. However, the mirror matchups for both is painful
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Unread Fri, 6th-Apr-2012, 12:50 PM BnetId: Fullstop.283  Race: Clan: sR  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 358 # 19
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I would say ZvZ is much more fun than PvP, if that has any impact on your decision.
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Unread Fri, 6th-Apr-2012, 12:52 PM BnetId: UncleTom. 182  Race: Clan: crux  Location: Auckland, New Zealnad  Total Posts Made: 194 # 20
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Unread Fri, 6th-Apr-2012, 1:00 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: iMyang.427  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Victoria, Australia  Total Posts Made: 633 # 21
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holy mongolian thread necro
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Unread Fri, 6th-Apr-2012, 1:27 PM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 22
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yeah i completely forgot about this thread i made haha yeah i have mained toss for a while now but still like to play zerg is ther any zerg players out there willing too teach me a few thing (not coaching i have no money for such a thing)
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 10:53 PM BnetId: Konayuki  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 25 # 23
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Zerg gogogo! Its more fun to me anyway
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 10:56 PM BnetId: wTlzq.495  Race: Clan: wT  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 207 # 24
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Instead of "What" race, ask yourself "Why" i want this race.. but if u still cant make up your mind, zerg is challenging ^^
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 11:18 PM BnetId: TABottles.446  BattleTag: 6589  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Tasmania, Australia  Total Posts Made: 430 # 25
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I started playing Protoss as I got into SC2, went through bronze as protoss and it was all well and good. I still think my Protoss is okay. But back then I would get 3 raxed by Terran players alot and I HATED them.

So accepting defeat I decided to play random to get a feel for things. I discovered I was beating Terran's with Terran and losing to them as Protoss.. so i made the switch and all though it was hard to swallow as back then Terran copped too much shit - i've been a happy terran player ever since. Amazing race with amazing potential.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 11:29 PM BnetId: TAdippa.684  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 663 # 26
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Play Terran if you have good hand-speed, enjoy the principle of heavy multi-tasking (dropping like a baus) and want to have a great deal of flexibility in all match-ups

Play Zerg if you enjoy a heavy macro-oriented style of play, constantly hitting your injects, laying creep tumours and swarming the map rather than doing marine splits or trying to hit pinpoint forcefields (and if you also like smashing shit with banelings)

Play Protoss if you enjoy the intensity that comes with focusing really hard on your control, like landing key forcefields, winning fights against 10000 roaches despite having 1/5th of the supply and matchups like PvP. Also play Protoss if you really enjoy the warp-in concept and the ability to do a variety of really powerful timings in PvT and PvZ (immortal busts, colossi timings, 6-7-8 gate, blink stalker etc) as well as the strength of late game Protoss (Archons, 3/3 chargelots, storm, colossi, mothership and so on)

Obviously there's a shitload about all three races that I don't understand but I think the way to make the decision is to think about what you enjoy specifically doing in Starcraft the most and then picking the race that best supports that

Note: I didn't do this because I'm a retard
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Unread Fri, 11th-May-2012, 7:10 AM BnetId: ToRvenom.977  Race: Clan: ToR/SOT  Location: Brisbane,Australia  Total Posts Made: 447 # 27
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dont play what ur good at.. play what u enjoy..
This is one of the reasons i wanna change to zerg.
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Unread Fri, 11th-May-2012, 7:40 AM BnetId: BLkTGR.129  Race: Clan: wT  Location: sydney  Total Posts Made: 113 # 28
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Time to play the hybrids. (ZergToss)
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Unread Fri, 11th-May-2012, 9:12 AM BnetId: TADivinity.650  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 332 # 29
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Go Protoss. If (or rather, when? xD) you become good, then that's one less zerg on this server.
Its the best race for cheese. It is (generally speaking) a more simplified macro race, but intense micro race. It is (generally) the strongest race in the latter parts of the game.
It has plenty of choice in how you open (pvz anyway).
It has invisible men that one-shot shit.

EDIT: Holy necro batman!

So OP, which race did you choose in the end? xP
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Unread Fri, 11th-May-2012, 2:39 PM BnetId: VBMuldeh.670  Race: Clan: VB  Location: Dunedin, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 49 # 30
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Terran has the most cheese :X
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Unread Fri, 11th-May-2012, 11:45 PM BnetId: sRLiveR.539  Race: Clan: sR  Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 219 # 31
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It's up to you - the race you find more fun is the best choice for you, because you'll play it more and you'll get better faster.
If both are equally "fun", see which one fits the way you think more, imo zerg is more freeflow and you have more freedom which is why I picked it, whereas toss is more solid, where the builds are defined and made to hit at a specific time.
Toss is, in general, much easier to play than Zerg. (< jk)
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Unread Fri, 11th-May-2012, 11:54 PM BnetId: faithHunter 598  Race: Clan: TN  Location: Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 260 # 32
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Switch to Protoss.

...All jokes aside, my advice is to try out both races and stick to the one race that you think fits you the most.
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Unread Sat, 12th-May-2012, 11:45 AM BnetId: mOOnPReNtice.529  Race: Clan: cR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 94 # 33
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play toss they soooooo imba
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Unread Sat, 12th-May-2012, 4:23 PM Total Posts Made: 23 # 34
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I started playing Protoss as I got into SC2, went through bronze as protoss and it was all well and good. I still think my Protoss is okay. But back then I would get 3 raxed by Terran players alot and I HATED them.
I remember when I thought my biggest problem was "How the hell do I stop a 3rax???" Then I switched to Zerg and life became so much easier
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Unread Sun, 13th-May-2012, 1:07 AM BnetId: ScubaBear 221  Race: Location: Philippines  Total Posts Made: 5 # 35
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Ever since BW, I've been zerg. Just play the race that you enjoy most. It just "sticks" to you. Kinda hard to explain. lol.
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Unread Sun, 13th-May-2012, 4:45 PM BnetId: TheChad 263  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 63 # 36
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WOW again Thread Necro this is over 2 months when i made up my mind and yet people are still commenting lol. But i will tell you on SEA i only Play toss as i love playing as them and they are the main Race im focusing on.But when i want Fun for shits and giggles i go play on NA server as any ra ce i feel like playing at the time and i think i can say that my zerg is still alright even though i havent played them 1v1 much but general things like injects and queen spine rushing with OP RANGE. is always alot of fun. anyway since the thread revival came i decided i would let you know my current mind set.
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Unread Wed, 27th-Jun-2012, 9:55 AM Race: Total Posts Made: 8 # 37
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Whichever you have more fun with. Or you can just play both. Tons of people play random, so i don't think you have to choose one race over the other.
Also. Dude. Use periods.
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Unread Wed, 27th-Jun-2012, 9:57 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: Iris  Location: Wellington  Total Posts Made: 394 # 38
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i think this thread has been necro'd enough times....
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Unread Wed, 27th-Jun-2012, 10:05 PM BnetId: JungleNed.629  Race: Clan: FS  Location: Benalla, Australia (Victoria)  Total Posts Made: 44 # 39
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Well, be more specific, what race do you feel more comfortable with? Who are your favorite players? What do you like to be like? Swarm? Or a more mechanical sense where your units HAVE to do something... If that makes sense, i.e. every unit counts, so don't lose them...
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Unread Wed, 27th-Jun-2012, 10:08 PM BnetId: JungleNed.629  Race: Clan: FS  Location: Benalla, Australia (Victoria)  Total Posts Made: 44 # 40
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Oh, just read it's necro... I'm new here :x

I'm sorry!
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Unread Thu, 28th-Jun-2012, 5:50 PM BnetId: WoLF.798  Race: Clan: DGTV  Location: Gold Coast, Australia  Total Posts Made: 399 # 41
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i worst part is im playing terran this season 2 get a understanding of the race(Wolf_Dragunov) idk i feel that i am constantly changing my mind and i think its over all giving me a bigger understanding of the game as a whole. for eg i know how terran feel when they dont micro vs toss.so to end this statement please dont post here again things have changed
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