[NDG.Stitch]

Recently I've been getting involved in casts and getting involved in clans with practices, training, and whatever. I also just got in diamond league, but today I noticed I've been spending way too much time on SC2, and not really caring a lot about school. I'm not a very good caster, yet I'm also not a good player at starcraft. I swore to myself that I would stop the playing and instead just spend minimal time on casting.
Now I'm wondering if its a good decision made by me.

Should I put all my effort into casting? Even though I'm not a known caster around SEA? Or should I just play and quit casting?

Sorry for those of you that don't really care. I just want some opinions if any of you have had to make these decisions before!

[cruxis]

A good caster has a good voice. Post a recording of your voice.

[NDG.Stitch]

Originally Posted by cruxis

A good caster has a good voice. Post a recording of your voice.

Well, this is my latest upload.

You Tube

You Tube

EDIT: O.O BANELING PICTURE!

[Mukade]

Well dude, what do you want to do? Personally, I just play sc2 to both have fun, and to improve myself, haha.

[inFeZa]

dels awards are in his head, Keep casting man, they talk about stuff like this on state of the game (recently in pax) and how day9, husky, jp and all of them got well know is they just did it, they didnt ask anyone or get suggestions.

listen to the recent PAX state of the game.

[ETL.Santi]

Why do you ask people in an online forum what to do with your life? I suggest make real life friends and have fun.

[TAriiChard]

You're good at casting mate. Just because you don't have 300,000 subscribers like Husky or HD doesn't mean your bad. It just means that you haven't gotten the breakthrough like they have.

Maybe you should take a step back from what you doing and remember why you're casting and playing Starcraft 2. For the fun of the game. A few days ago i played 13 ladder games and lost 10 ...... It was so frustrating but I took a step back and just chilled and played fun games with the TA guys. Straight away I got back into Starcraft 2 and loved it again.

So my advice for you is, spend less time playing so much Starcraft 2 and get some study habits going. So like, study for a few hours and then you'll realise how much you hate studying and love Starcraft LOL! And don't cast because you want to be big in the world (huge assumption from me) but cast because you enjoy casting.

Just my 2 cents.


Cheers, TAriiChard

[kellyMILKIES]

Originally Posted by StitchStarcraft

Recently I've been getting involved in casts and getting involved in clans with practices, training, and whatever. I also just got in diamond league, but today I noticed I've been spending way too much time on SC2, and not really caring a lot about school. I'm not a very good caster, yet I'm also not a good player at starcraft. I swore to myself that I would stop the playing and instead just spend minimal time on casting.
Now I'm wondering if its a good decision made by me.

Should I put all my effort into casting? Even though I'm not a known caster around SEA? Or should I just play and quit casting?

Sorry for those of you that don't really care. I just want some opinions if any of you have had to make these decisions before!

Try to find a balance in it all. Do school, it's important. Do sc2 as well if it is your passion. !!
Do you like casting / playing a lot? If you do, then continue. But make sure you don't fail school too!! ^-^V

[ddengster]

Really good casters are the ones who can spare the time to play online. They tell you (and can even predict) about the current or new styles of players, and make far fewer mistakes reading the game and telling the audience about it. Never give up on playing, imo. If you don't have time to play, watch streams of others playing.

[tin]

just quit school and play and cast sc2.

nah just allocate your time and be strict with your self set times where you do your all your sc2 stuff as for being a good caster or not i dont really know anything about casting but i like casters that make me laugh that might be just me tho. but in the end do what makes you happy

[LennX]

What riiChard said and....

Time management. This is what you really need at e moment. As you have said, you need more time studying. There are 3 things fighting for your time right now. Studying, playing sc2 and casting games.

For example, on weekdays, you will study first and then allocate some spare time to playing sc2. Something like 3hours studying and 1hr of playing sc2. No casting at all. Do all your casting on weekends. That will mean no playing normally and just casting and editing your casts (if they are not live.)

Judging from your post, you seem to be suffering from a burnout of hvaing too much sc2. Take the next week off sc2 and do all your other stuff that you have thrown away since playing sc2. It will help a lot.

[NDG.Stitch]

Thanks for the comments everybody, I'll try to balance work and sc2 as much as I can as Kelly said.

As for deL and Pinder, i don't really care about what you guys think about me. I'm not complaining nor am I advertising. I purely want some advice because I know there are some great players and casters in this forum with great experience and I just hope they could give me the advice. But it looks like you two really aren't the types of players anybody should be going to for some useful advice. deL, who are you to judge what matters and what not? Idc if it doesn't matter to you or Pinder - cuz it definitely matters to me. If you think its a useless thread, go talk to the admins and tell them to remove it. Posting it here won't affect me and it won't benefit your naive mind.

[Unstable]

This post shall be a double edged sword so be warned!

Stitch I fully sympathize with how your feeling at the moment, I have exactly the same drawbacks which is very frustrating, the best you can do is prioritize. Obviously your school/RL commitments must come first as they do with me there is no shame in only being able to do a certain amount in sc2. just do what you can and it will all seem better.

now to the other side :O

While i semi agree with del/pinder your response has turned my next words from" they were trolling man chill". to you just made a fool of yourself.

Originally Posted by StitchStarcraft

But it looks like you two really aren't the types of players anybody should be going to for some useful advice

You couldnt be more offpoint if you tried. Del created the tournament scene in SEA no tournament with more than $50 was not run by del, even the SEASL i will bet $$ that nirvana consulted with him about it. Pinder while not the absolute best player in SEA you will find no better coach simply because of his experience and interaction with all the top level players.

You want to know how i became a good enough caster to be picked up by FXOpen who are about to dump millions of $$ into SC2 the caster who Pheonix/kelly pretty much any mainstream SEA caster comes to for advice/help, do you REALLY want to know.... when i first started casting guess who were the first 2 people i went to for feedback about my casts. ill give you 1 guess....................

[AxSGRiM]

deL's funny, but honestly he's right.. no need to ask a forum for tips on leading your life, you do what you want to do not what we tell you to do.

[deL]

It looks like I just troll this site and try to ruin it but if you look carefully it's mostly in response to idiots or useless threads and therefore for the benefit of the site and it's members. When they take the bait it usually proves the point.

I don't think it's a stupid question as I think most of us have tossed up whether to put so much time and effort into it but not every person makes a ******* attention-seeking thread about it rofl.

[Disadvantage]

Originally Posted by deL

It looks like I just troll this site and try to ruin it but if you look carefully it's mostly in response to idiots or useless threads and therefore for the benefit of the site and it's members. When they take the bait it usually proves the point.

I don't think it's a stupid question as I think most of us have tossed up whether to put so much time and effort into it but not every person makes a ******* attention-seeking thread about it rofl.

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to not post and report it rather than derailing it, even if you do think it is a useless thread?

[deL]

Originally Posted by Disadvantage

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to not post and report it rather than derailing it, even if you do think it is a useless thread?

But that's a lot less fun.

[toasti0]

slayers_boxer said that when he choose to play sc1 he decided he wanted to become a champion and he devoted 100% of his life to becoming a champion. So in his eyes if you wanna be a pro you goto throw everything you have got at it otherwise your wasting your time. If you don't wanna be a pro than just enjoy playing sc2 and know that it's your hobby and not your goal in life and if that's the case you should put what is your goal first at all times e.g. job or becoming the worlds fattest belly dancer or whatever it may be.

[Crankenstein]

My goal in life is to become an amazing science teacher. However, that goal is becoming more and more difficult when you have to decide between laddering/tournaments and showing up to class. :P

[NDG.Stitch]

Well deL, the reason why I put it on the forums is because I don't know a lot of the people around, since I am new to here. I'm not here to advertise, I am purely just trying to ask for advice.

Unstable, there are different success stories. But I respect yours, and it is a shame I don't get to see how deL helps with new casters. Obviously I probably won't be able to until the flame goes out around this thread.

[Dox]

I think some of the posts in this thread are unnecessarily hostile...

People are too quick to jump the gun and flame someone these days, using any excuse they can find. He's just a young guy and he's seeking advice from like-minded people who love the game as much as he does. It didn't come across to me as attention seeking, especially because he didn't advertise himself in the OP.

Anyway, most of what I can offer you has already been said in one fashion or another, but essentially try to prioritise and balance your obligations with your passions. Commentating can be quite time consuming, so perhaps just leave that to the weekends and holidays. Stick to playing the game during the week just so you can remain engaged and active within the community. You mentioned you just hit diamond so obviously you're working your way up.

From my perspective, most successful casters are those who persevere regardless of followers, feedback and popularity. I may be out of line here, but I'm pretty sure Unstable went from being unknown to being THE SEA commentator over the course of a few months simply by throwing himself out there time and time again.

Just be mindful that all feedback, no matter how negative has it's value, but try not to take it all to heart. You'll never satisfy every listener, but as long as you enjoy doing it you shouldn't ever stop.

As for everyone else... Give the guy a break. Everyone starts somewhere. We're all here because we all love, live and breathe this game. Seeing responses like these remind me of idiots at concerts who start fights in the crowd even though they're both there for the same reason: because they love the music.

[TAcawkballs]

Why are you asking the community what YOU should be doing, if you really want to do something dont hesitate do it. Do it because you want to and you enjoy it.

Good luck with any choice you make.

[Max]

Firstly, deL who the **** do you think you are? Ok you have managed the AUS national team and a leader of a successful SEA clan, congratulations. You have also managed to be a complete ****** douchebag. Honestly who the **** do you think you are derailing all threads you come across and giving negative feedback (maybe one positive feedback for every 500 shit posts you make). Good work, you have put effort in towards building the SEA community today. This is no excuse for you to think you are a god in the SC2 sea community. Acting like a complete utter ****** is not adding to your reputation. Honestly, stop piss ******* around the forums being a ****** douchebag and give critical criticism that's going to help or don't ****** post at all.

Secondly, Pinder. I know you aren't as big of a ****** like deL but you seem to be backing him up when he is obviously in the wrong. You are just as stupid/douchey as he is for thinking he is in the right when he is blatantly not. Get a clue?

I know this is a terrible post and of disgusting language, but I think many of the SC2SEA community agree that deL needs to drop his top shit attitude and stop being a complete douchebag in 99% of his posts or he's going to ruin his reputation, sea's reputation and continually be called a fat bastard with no ego/self-esteem in real life so he has to put on a ****** attitude and discourage other members.

[TAavanar]

Originally Posted by Max

Firstly, deL who the **** do you think you are? Ok you have managed the AUS national team and a leader of a successful SEA clan, congratulations. You have also managed to be a complete ****** douchebag. Honestly who the **** do you think you are derailing all threads you come across and giving negative feedback (maybe one positive feedback for every 500 shit posts you make). Good work, you have put effort in towards building the SEA community today. This is no excuse for you to think you are a god in the SC2 sea community. Acting like a complete utter ****** is not adding to your reputation. Honestly, stop piss ******* around the forums being a ****** douchebag and give critical criticism that's going to help or don't ****** post at all.

Secondly, Pinder. I know you aren't as big of a ****** like deL but you seem to be backing him up when he is obviously in the wrong. You are just as stupid/douchey as he is for thinking he is in the right when he is blatantly not. Get a clue?

I know this is a terrible post and of disgusting language, but I think many of the SC2SEA community agree that deL needs to drop his top shit attitude and stop being a complete douchebag in 99% of his posts or he's going to ruin his reputation, sea's reputation and continually be called a fat bastard with no ego/self-esteem in real life so he has to put on a ****** attitude and discourage other members.

i think hes mad

[TAcawkballs]

If you don't like dels posts don't read them. Stop being bitches about anyone disagreeing or voicing there opinion.

[ETL.Santi]

To be honest I like del and I would miss him if he leaves because he is not socially retarded like most people who play starcraft.

[KrasH]

Originally Posted by Santi

To be honest I like del and I would miss him if he leaves because he is not socially retarded like most people who play starcraft.

Nah, deL's just retarded.

[Max]

How about you TA boys stop sticking up for someone who is in the wrong?

I don't think you know what bitches are, we're merely voicing our opinion too. Don't tell us we're bitches, don't read it. You're a hypocritical little person aren't you?

Wouldn't expect much from someone who can't tell the difference between there and their.

[Dox]

Everyone just needs to chill.

Look at all the hate!

[TAcawkballs]

hey max, hows nGen?

[staLcHiLd]

Did kelly quit when she got so flamed? no she pressed on and continued to try her best, you should do the same

[Unstable]

I actually cant wait until nirvana reads this thread. the epic edits WILL COME

[TAcawkballs]

Originally Posted by Unstable

I actually cant wait until nirvana reads this thread. the epic edits WILL COME

i cant wait till he deletes the thread aswell =/

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by TAcawkballs

i cant wait till he deletes the thread aswell =/

its ok ive screencapped it all to repost over and over

[Xeen]

Well this is sure showing the quality of the community.

[ProAnnn]

Originally Posted by Xeen

Well this is sure showing the quality of the community.

Well i totally agree.

On topic: Do you think you are able to commit X hours in sc2 and Y hours in casting while spending reasonable amount of time on ur RL stuff like studying and stuff. If you are able to, then dont quit. If not, you could either take a break in playing sc2 OR take a break from casting. You can always give up on either.

On del: He's an awesome organizer from SEA. He may be brutal and offensive with his words (TROLL) but i dont really see the necessity to flame him to this extent. We all know that he's a troll and he provides alot entertainment to us on this forum. Without him, sc2sea wont be so fun =P.

[Brultze]

I feel a bit sad that theres so much flaming now as compared to before . Anyway Stitch most of what could have been said to advise you has already been said in one way or another but i think ultimately you should focus on your real life more than anything. Like HDPhoenixx who is usually very busy with work and what not that during such times he wont really cast for a while but instead focus on his real life commitments before continuing on casting.

[cure]

Rofl@this thread.

Well, i don't see the point of flaming someone this hard. But then again, posting about RL stuff in online forums is pretty much just baiting trolls like deL to troll it. He's a dick, but he actually does post constructive stuff if its a good thread. Check "How to host tournaments" thread, he actually helps someone out O_O !

[NDG.Stitch]

Originally Posted by deL

I'd be surprised if anyone gives a shit.

Yah thats true. Thanks for the opinion!

EDIT: Is that also how you got your community builder award deL?

[deL]

Originally Posted by StitchStarcraft

Yah thats true. Thanks for the opinion!

EDIT: Is that also how you got your community builder award deL?

I certainly didn't get it making useless threads fishing for compliments about my casting (if you were serious about this thread why on earth would you advertise your commentary - do you think someone is going to go OMG U HAV SO MUCH POTENTIAL U R NEXT HUSKY DON'T GO!?). I also didn't get it by encouraging terrible threads by giving half-arsed, vague responses that don't give an answer and don't matter anyway.

Just quit no one will miss you in a week and you will have a lot of spare time. If you have to consider quitting, then it means you should just do it.

Originally Posted by MirandaKerr

del choke on my seamen.

Originally Posted by MirandaKerr

To open.....ahem... del your a ****** asshole. No one really cares about you either..... your players are gold, your just shit. You talk like your a god when in reality you have the same amount of respect as an insane hobo who won the lottery and decided to build a house out of golden bricks but used faeces as cement. **** you.

My players? lol? First of all how are they my players - I am part of the team they are friends more than anything I don't even take care of clanwars now, second of all what do they have to do with anything? Also sweet hobo analogy you blew my mind, what's next are you gonna call me a silly billy? Spare me your lashings.

[FluidTeK]

Originally Posted by deL

I'd be surprised if anyone gives a shit.

I wouldn't be surprised if you where a fat **** loser that tries to bring other's down because your self esteem is so low and you can't achieve jack shit in life.
Also how did you get that community builder achievement with posts like that. I ******* hate idiots like you, who try bring others down because you can't achieve **** all in life.

If you don't give a **** about his thread, DONT POST IN IT. ******* retard.

Stitch has a way better voice than Kelly and she casted the gsl, all he needs is experience and he will become one of the best casters in the world. His voice is perfect for it.

[MirandaKerr]

Originally Posted by deL

I'd be surprised if anyone gives a shit.

To open.....ahem... del your a ****** asshole. No one really cares about you either..... your players are gold, your just shit. You talk like your a god when in reality you have the same amount of respect as an insane hobo who won the lottery and decided to build a house out of golden bricks but used faeces as cement. **** you.

Now for some actual constructive conversation. Stitch if you believe sc2 is taking too big of a toll on your real life, then limit your time or quit all together. If you want to become successful in this game as a player you have to dedicate so much time that a student just simply doesn't possess. Also if you have any doubts that gaming in general is making you miss out on real life then quit. In a couple of years time this game won't matter, the players won't matter and you would of wasted some of the best years of your life. Once a game dies your skill doesn't transition into anything useful ...except maybe typing skills and problem solving. Imagine if you spent 40+ hrs a week with another hobby that you could actually use later on in life. If you want to be successful ( not mediocre SEA region successful) then you have to accept the fact that you will have the same personality and sex appeal as an old boot. In regards to your casting as a hobby, i think this is actually a great idea if your worried sc2 is taking up too much time. You can just load up a replay and start whenever you have free time. You won't be the best caster in the world straight away, its like going from bronze to masters but if you want to do something then **** everyone else, do it because you want to do it.

ps. i was in masters until i quit sc2 a couple of months ago now and im lovin life no regrets, so i may be biased. del choke on my seamen.

[NvPinder]

Originally Posted by MirandaKerr

To open.....ahem... del your a ****** asshole. No one really cares about you either..... your players are gold, your just shit. You talk like your a god when in reality you have the same amount of respect as an insane hobo who won the lottery and decided to build a house out of golden bricks but used faeces as cement. **** you.

He has 2 'teams', in 1, his team has undoubtably the best play on SEA who came 3rd at IEM competed in GSL code A and has almost racked up enough achievements to be compared to legionnaires bw run. In the other, we have several players that are better than every single player in yours, stop talking shit.


Also WOW at all these people asking how deL got the community building award, the guy has done more for australian starcraft than anyone in the last 3 years (both bw and sc2), without him the bw scene would've been deader than a doorknob and without him we wouldnt of had any of the beta tournaments or release tournaments Australia/SEA had early on. With sc2sea taking a front seat and him now being busy with FXO stuff, he's not doing the RIDICULOUS amount he used to do for Aus/SEA sc2, but anyone questioning if he deserves the award is totes a vintage classic pelican.

As for his actual post here, i agree with it, no one cares if you're thinking about maybe quitting the game bro. If you're a well known member (which it seems you somewhat are), then sure, post a goodbye thread to everyone whatever... But this thread is basically "Yo im gonna maybe leave unless you guys tell me im really good at casting", you're compliment fishing worse than most women i know. Pointless thread.