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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 3:42 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 161
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Benji, when Dandelion casts his final and deciding vote, can you please make a post of the total votes for the randomly lynched before killing off the person with the most votes? I may decide to swing my vote if my vote really matters.
Nope, rules are rules
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 3:48 PM BnetId: pikkon.835  Race: Clan: WNG  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 332 # 162
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Okie dokie. Don't want to hold the game up then. I'll stick with my vote since Dandelion's vote will affect the final outcome.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:00 PM BnetId: cruxis.312  Race: Location: Blue Mountains  Total Posts Made: 465 # 163
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Your maths is really really bad, with that change in votes its 6-5
Vote was at 6-3, then there were 2 more votes for Deaths, making it 6-5. If someone else voted Deaths without removing their vote on Zerg, it'll be 6-6. If someone goes from Zerg to Deaths, then yes, it would be 5-6.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:09 PM BnetId: ToRDeathsFng.788  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 764 # 164
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If i want to seal my survival, i can just change my vote to Zergtastic. But i'm not going to do that
i change my vote to zergtastic
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:13 PM BnetId: mustapusta.239  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 113 # 165
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I change my vote to DeathsFang
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:20 PM BnetId: ToRDeathsFng.788  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 764 # 166
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Fine then, lynch me off. But i'm the Vigilante =/ So long chances of winning.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:30 PM BnetId: cruxis.312  Race: Location: Blue Mountains  Total Posts Made: 465 # 167
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We have 2 vigilante's. But if you really are one of them, then you can quote Benji's PM for us, and you should be saved, judging we don't think you made it up.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:40 PM BnetId: LennX 941  Race: Total Posts Made: 380 # 168
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An easier way is just to PM Benji now saying who you want to kill. It will be a random lynch but you will save yourself. Then the mafia will have to target you but the doctor should save you right?
As long as you PM him before dandelion votes?
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 4:58 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: eCKo  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 750 # 169
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If Zergtastic wants a tie then there's a high chance he's mafia, i by no means want a tie vote.

And fyi in the first round i was a citizen and in the second round i was lover/mafia. How am i popular in getting roles?
Deaths, I've been trying for ages to prove myself to not be mafia by voting for random people. Since that didn't work, Im voting for you as its my only chance at survival past this round. It is highly unlikely that I am mafia, its much more likely that the three mafia members are voting for me, as I expect them to be more organised and vote together, and I had the highest vote count initially. So basically, at this point in time, if you vote for me, you're probably mafia. Which means you are more likely to be mafia than I am, which in turn causes you being killed a better decision than me being killed.

Keeping this in mind, I think people sitting on the fence, such as pikk0n, should vote for deathsfang instead of me. Like I said earlier, everyone is going to be looking at whoever votes me first to possibly be mafia, so if you are mafia, why not save yourself and vote deaths instead? No one will know if you're conforming to the correct decision or trying to save yourself from being lynched tomorrow, off the small amount of information we have from this day's votes.

Basically, the only way I can die at this point is for people to disregard the information at hand, and blindly vote me in an act of self-promotion.

No vote changes here Benji, don't need to read my essay if you don't want.

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An easier way is just to PM Benji now saying who you want to kill. It will be a random lynch but you will save yourself. Then the mafia will have to target you but the doctor should save you right?
As long as you PM him before dandelion votes?
Thats assuming I die, which shouldn't happen. Deathsfang has nothing to prove that hes a vigilante other than his own words, you shouldn't be so blind as to trust those kinds of words in a situation like this. Thats why I haven't gone ahead and said my own role, because its unlikely anyone could trust me that its correct anyway, and probably shouldn't affect the voting process. Instead, Im putting forward evidence that mafia members are probably voting for me, thus meaning that I am unlikely to be a mafia member myself, and thus meaning that I don't need to be killed at this point in the game, although that may or may not affect the future of this game.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:05 PM BnetId: ToRDeathsFng.788  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 764 # 170
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On the hope that the doctor will heal me tonight and that people will change their votes i'm not going to register my kills QUITE yet.
Also, i'm not sure if i'm allowed to quote/post pic of the message Benji gave me because that defeats the purpose of the game. But if i find out i'm allowed i will

Just please change your votes or a Vigi will cry

EDIT: Okay fine Zergtastic you want me to prove i'm Vigi then we'll see who dies when Benji updates Either you change your votes, or i kill you. Take a pick
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:25 PM BnetId: pikkon.835  Race: Clan: WNG  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 332 # 171
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Deaths, how will zergtastic switching his votes from save himself at all? He's going to either die from the random lynch or die from your vigilante antics.... I think he'd rather take you down with him if that's the case by keeping his vote to you.

Another thing is the presence of vigis can be a negative for the citizens if the vigilante kills a citizen instead of a mafia so it's really a double edged sword. More so now that the informant isn't working with the vigilante. It's just as bad as having 3 mafia families until the latter stages of the game.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:34 PM BnetId: ToRDeathsFng.788  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 764 # 172
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If i kill Zergtastic RIGHT now before Dandelion votes then everyone's vote on him will be cancelled and i will have the msot votes on me, thus, i die. But it's been quite a while into the day and just to make sure everyone knows im Vigi i'll kill Mustapusta right about now.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:39 PM BnetId: LennX 941  Race: Total Posts Made: 380 # 173
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I change my vote from DeathsFang to Dandelion.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:49 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 174
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We have 2 vigilante's. But if you really are one of them, then you can quote Benji's PM for us, and you should be saved, judging we don't think you made it up.
You can't do this, it is against the rules.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:54 PM BnetId: cruxis.312  Race: Location: Blue Mountains  Total Posts Made: 465 # 175
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I can see why having screenshots could be against the rules, but I've played some games where being able to quote the role can be advantageous. If someone claims citizen, then you ask him to quote the PM, and he writes something completely different to every other citizen, then you know he's not a citizen. of course, this is in games where the citizen roles are also messaged to players.
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 5:59 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 176
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mustapusta has been killed by the Vigilante. He was a Vigilante.

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No vote changes here Benji, don't need to read my essay if you don't want.


Thank you, saved me 2 minutes :P

1. nard - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens
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2. craZerk - Voted for jackwong
3. pikk0n - Voted for Zergtastic
4. LennX - Voted for Dandelion

5. DeathsFang - Voted for Zergtastic

6. cruxis - Voted for pokerface
7. Skrawl - Voted for tgun
8. pokerface - Voted for Zergtastic
9. Rorschach - Voted for Zergtastic
10. HDPhoenix - Voted for Sonata

11. Next_rim - Voted for Deathsfang
12. BakaInu - Voted for Zergtastic
13. jackwong - Voted for Zergtastic
14. tgun - Voted for pokerface

15. Paroxysm - Voted for Crazerk
16. Zanderax - Voted for Bakainu
17. Zergtastic - Voted for Deathsfang

18. mustapusta - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Vigilante (Vigilante)
19. Dandelion
20. SONATA - Voted for Zergtastic
21. Meatex - Voted for Deathsfang22. Screwby - Voted for Deathsfang

7 Votes for Zergtastic

4 Votes for Deathsfang
2 Votes for Crazerk

2 Votes for pokerface
1 Vote for jackwong
1 Vote for Bakainu
1 Vote for SONATA
1 Vote for Dandelion
1 Vote for Tgun

Due to whats happened in the last hour or so, I'm extending Daytime for another Hour. Daytime will finish in 60 minutes or once Dandelion has Voted
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 6:00 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 177
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I can see why having screenshots could be against the rules, but I've played some games where being able to quote the role can be advantageous. If someone claims citizen, then you ask him to quote the PM, and he writes something completely different to every other citizen, then you know he's not a citizen. of course, this is in games where the citizen roles are also messaged to players.

This way is simpler. I want it to be VERY hard to prove 100% that you're X or Y role to everyone. Makes it alot easier to pretend to be roles, which is fun
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Deathsfang has been killed by the Professional. He was a Vigilante.

1. nard - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Citizens
(Citizen)

2. craZerk - Voted for jackwong
3. pikk0n - Voted for Zergtastic
4. LennX - Voted for Dandelion

5. DeathsFang
- ***DEAD*** Killed by the Professional (Vigilante)
6. cruxis - Voted for pokerface
7. Skrawl - Voted for tgun
8. pokerface - Voted for Zergtastic
9. Rorschach - Voted for Zergtastic
10. HDPhoenix - Voted for Sonata

11. Next_rim - Voted for Deathsfang
12. BakaInu - Voted for Zergtastic
13. jackwong - Voted for Zergtastic
14. tgun - Voted for pokerface

15. Paroxysm - Voted for Crazerk
16. Zanderax - Voted for Bakainu
17. Zergtastic - Voted for Deathsfang

18. mustapusta - ***DEAD*** Killed by the Vigilante (Vigilante)
19. Dandelion
20. SONATA - Voted for Zergtastic
21. Meatex - Voted for Deathsfang
22. Screwby - Voted for Deathsfang

6 Votes for Zergtastic

4 Votes for Deathsfang - DEAD
2 Votes for Crazerk

2 Votes for pokerface
1 Vote for jackwong
1 Vote for Bakainu
1 Vote for SONATA
1 Vote for Dandelion
1 Vote for Tgun

The Professional is one of the winners of the game, however I will not reveal who it is until the game ends or he dies. How he plays the game from now on is completely up to him.

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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 6:06 PM BnetId: pikkon.835  Race: Clan: WNG  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 332 # 179
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Deaths = biggest noob for revealing he's the vigi... free win for the prof.... Sigh.....

By the way, does this mean that votes for deaths will need to be switched?
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Unread Fri, 1st-Jul-2011, 6:07 PM BnetId: cruxis.312  Race: Location: Blue Mountains  Total Posts Made: 465 # 180
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Nice work Deaths, you kill our Vigilante, then let the Professional win.

At least it wasn't the informant or doctor, so we still have a chance.
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