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**syfChadMann** · Mon, 11th-Jun-2012, 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zealo

i get neg repped as much as anyone, usually it's because i've actually posted something retarded without thinking. i've edited or removed posts pretty quickly based on rep comments more than once.

sometimes it's bullshit like chadmann saying "because you neg repped me!!!" but i'm not going to get upset about that, the ability to neg rep is still a good thing i think, if someone doesn't like me/what i post i'd rather know about it. anyone who get's upset about a downvote they feel they didn't deserve is probably sensitive enough to get upset about something else stupid anyway.

please link these allegations?.. and they are probably because I posted that CHobo could have been either hacking or stream cheating.. and you called me a retard - in a neg rep.. which I felt deserved a neg rep for you.. cause I was contributing to a discussion to catch a cheater, but you just felt like making it personal?.. good job big boy

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	Zealo:	i was calling you a troll, for the record
	x5.Revenant:	^Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh BURNT

Pandan · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 6:57 AM

I'd say I'm in the party with quite a few people (Maynarde I believe) here; the points mean nothing to me whatsoever.

I do, however, love that people can just give a smiley/frowny face to something they like OR just post a quick comment instead of making additional posts.

It's the off-topics exchange of rep that's retarded, like in Zealo's example (without getting in to who did what), but the concept of "because you negged a post of mine earlier" is just stupid.

I reckon take away like power and number of likes, and just have it as a quick social pointer or something. If people aren't coveting 'social status' from the rep, then the system should get used correctly, right?

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iM yang:

i disagree with your post

Kepler · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 7:24 AM

I feel that ratings in general just promote a circlejerk.

Someone could be a massive douchebag, or completely wrong, but still have a legion of supporters and come off as correct because of his massive positive rating on a post.

I say get rid of positive and negative comments, but still let you comment. No 'reputation system'.

It's straddling the edge of becoming Reddit in some sense, which is something every website and forum should strive to not be.

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	Pandan:	OMG WTF COPIED MY POST AND GOT FRONTPAGE!! THINK OF THE KARMA!! :(((((((
	Cute:	I agree (I would uprep, but that'd be a bit too ironic for my liking)
	iM yang:	you're cute, not cute, you; science

**Dox** · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 8:38 AM

Just gonna throw this out there:

It's kinda tragic that this thread is still going despite the MYRIAD of improvements this site really needs. The freaking rep system has received months of un-needed attention.

IF YOU DISAGREE NEG REP ME

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	TAkrunch:
	Bash:	LIKE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!
	FLuX:	Curse you Dox, you know we can't neg rep!
	iM yang:	i disagree with your post

Cute · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 8:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dox

Just gonna throw this out there:

It's kinda tragic that this thread is still going despite the MYRIAD of improvements this site really needs. The freaking rep system has received months of un-needed attention.

IF YOU DISAGREE NEG REP ME

Just out of curiosity, what do you think needs improving?

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	Pandan:	I would really like to see Dox's fully thought out opinion on this. Perhaps enough for it's own thread :P
	iM yang:	everything

**inFeZa** · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 9:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dox

Just gonna throw this out there:

It's kinda tragic that this thread is still going despite the MYRIAD of improvements this site really needs. The freaking rep system has received months of un-needed attention.

IF YOU DISAGREE NEG REP ME

I agree! So much effort that is put into improving a thing that everyone regards as like the points on whoseline. (it doesn't matter)

Why so much effort if everyone is just like meh being down or up repped doesnt matter.

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iM yang:

i disagree with your post

Benji · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 9:35 AM

I've said this before, but I feel it needs to be mentioned again.

Remove the entire system. The reputation system discourages posting in fear of receiving negative points on the system (despite the points meaning nothing, there's a psychological part to it as well). It also encourages circle jerking and mindlessly up voting your friends posts. Any posts against the main group of members (TA and friends) gain no leverage due to the mass down voting which causes fear to speak out against the group. Even the removal of the down voting system will not fix this as one side of the forum argument will have a ton of happy faces, which reflects in the opinion of a new user.

From the side of 'It encourages people to post', this is a terrible argument because if someone is only posting so they can get up votes, their motivations are poor and should not be rewarded. At the same time it discourages posts that do not conform to the masses, which means only the opinions of the largest group will matter.

It's a little sad when someone hosts an awesome weekly tournament and receives very few up votes, whilst someone else posts an opinion in a popular thread that conforms to the masses and gets showered in likes.

Remove the system, it is horrible for our community.

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	Champi:	i disagree with some of the points u made, but overall i agree with you
	Pox:
	PiG:	great points
	Zealo:	upvoting for irony
	iM yang:	i disagree with your post

Rage · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 10:48 AM

I think commenting on posts is a useful fun feature. It saves people making an entire post if they only want to agree with someone without adding any value of their own.

But the rest can go, I think.

**nirvAnA** · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 5:42 PM

Some people make really good points. After consideration on what will be best for the community in the long term, the new trial will be something we never did before.. removing positive / negative rep and only leaving it as a comment feature.

There will also be a bigger emphasis on "site achievements" now.

Lets see if this is a step in the right direction.

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	Asrathiel:	Noooooo..... my points.... :P :P
	FLuX:	Looking through a thread and thought something was missing; it's strange but I think I'll get used to it
	Peleus:	imo change the face because it looks a bit weird to have comments like this.
	Bash:	im okay with it. however i am not okay with having this smug face represent my opinion.
	Zealo:	counter to asrathiel's nuetral vote
	mGGDaedalus:	this is all i really use it for anyway
	inFeZa:	great! now i can call people buttholes and they cant down rep me

**syfChadMann** · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Some people make really good points. After consideration on what will be best for the community in the long term, the new trial will be something we never did before.. removing positive / negative rep and only leaving it as a comment feature.

There will also be a bigger emphasis on "site achievements" now.

Lets see if this is a step in the right direction.

Sounds good.. I agree with that option
Or perhaps the option of not showing someone's rep.. but that might not change too much as I couldn't tell you who was above 500 and who was below, outside of the obvious, like Dox or nirvAnA above and Ziek below

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	neKo:	-1 negative rep
	iM yang:	i disagree with your post

Rage · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 6:04 PM

Remove the face - looks a bit weird to have the face when it doesnt have a meaning

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iM yang:

i disagree with your post

**nirvAnA** · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 6:23 PM

face has already been removed. crtl + F5 will show the temp placeholder we have set up.

thegentleman is working on a proper permanent icon

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iM yang:

i disagree with your post

**inFeZa** · Tue, 12th-Jun-2012, 7:04 PM

TA COMMENT TRAIN!

wooooooo

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	syfChadMann:	chooo chooo
	mGGDaedalus:	COUNTER REP!
	TAkrunch:	=(
	Fourby:	Im shaking my head in spirit ***
	TAavanar:	BOOM bubbles everywhere
	iM yang:	i disagree with your post
	nirvAnA:	Bubble bubble bubble pop

breadfan · Wed, 13th-Jun-2012, 3:49 PM

I don't like not being able to leave actual rep. But I think it's still pretty good timing with some explosive posts going up recently. I am all for this as a temporary measure when the situation calls for it. But the rest of the time, I want to be able to throw rep around!

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iM yang:

i disagree with your post

Kepler · Wed, 13th-Jun-2012, 4:51 PM

Positive/Negative rep just leads to circlejerks. I'm glad it's gone.

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	iM yang:	fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfa pfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapf apfapfapfapfapfapfap
	syfChadMann:	I disagree with yang's fap.
	breadfan:	I prefer oblong jerks.

**inFeZa** · Wed, 13th-Jun-2012, 7:42 PM

I think the comment stuff is completely pointless.

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	iM yang:	:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
	TAavanar:	im commenting on you commenting that commenting is pointless

Rage · Wed, 13th-Jun-2012, 11:07 PM

the reason I like comments is that they are a great easy way to agree with a post without having to come up with any content for a post of your own - and we don't really want a forum littered with posts like "I agree" or "+1", especially not when the SC2SEA forum layout is fairly bulky and far from streamline - each post takes up a lot of space what with crazy image signatures and huge avatars etc

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	iM yang:	i disagree with your post
	syfChadMann:	yangyangyangyangyangyangyangyangyangyangyangyangya ngyangyangyangyangyang
	mGGDaedalus:	Exactly how I use them. Here, have no rep!

**PiG** · Wed, 13th-Jun-2012, 11:47 PM

I like the removal of rep system 90% of the forum posts were just reputation stuff!

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	syfChadMann:	I agree - here some re... oh.
	iM yang:	counter re- damn..

**TheGentleman** · Thu, 14th-Jun-2012, 1:57 AM

I didn't think I'd like this change but I've grown to like it. Whilst up voting valuable threads was certainly a wonderful idea in theory I've come to relise that the rep system is flawed and has the potential to punish or dishearten people who make constructive posts.

For example: in my graphical contribution thread I made some recent suggestions for the BSG and GPD tournament achievement icon changes. I've put time and effort into these but if someone didn't like the change (and a handful didn't) they could neg-rep the post which I would otherwise consider a contribution.

The "sub-comment" feature allows people to express their opinion without necessarily "punishing" a valuable poster.

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nirvAnA:

wise words!

**Nemo** · Thu, 14th-Jun-2012, 3:16 AM

At the the contrary, I preferred things before. Up voting helpful posts was a way for me to give a little "gift" to people who are doing the invisible work. It's no longer available and I think it will have a bad effect on motivation for those on the long term.

Today I wanted to give Aequitas upvote for a replay analysis, I only could give this smirk face, it doesn't seem the same.

I vote for making like it was before : 3 levels of comments appreciation and rep point count. I don't care if some people get their points for pure "coolness", I care that those having some for work don't get them any more.

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nirvAnA:

Maybe a thanks system would work