[FSDarkNemesis]

Been practising DoTA 2 for a week now against AI since getting my key... currently it's my latest game to benchmark my new graphics card I just cramped in.

Steam ID: UDeepEX.
Always good to go at night after I return home from my Army Base.

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[|Erasmus|]

I've been learning how to play this game a bit recently. Only played a handful of games of the WC3 mod casually with friends, so I started terribly. I can't remember my steam id, but I'm in the sc2sea channel in dota 2 when I'm on so you can find me there.

Does the dota matchmaking system match you against better people as you improve? Cause I clicked the noob button when I joined, but my last few games (since I've just been sticking with dragon knight so i learn one hero well) I've been dominating pretty hard...

[MazEi]

The MM afaik matches you for better ping, not skill level, but I could be wrong =\

[Daboo]

Hey Erasmus I was watching you play on sunday, ggs!

I think it works a lot like sc2, and it apparently starts to panick once ou hit the 50-50 ratio. There was a way to check your mmr, but it got removed. But there is a sort of indirect way to check it:

1)Goto watch games
2)Click on the recent games tab
3)filter button on the top right
4)type in your name, and select a skill level,

Based of the games you see there you can sort of deduce the level you are at right now.

I started out at noob level, and then moved up to mid.
But I think the matchmaking algorithm is still undergoing lots of changes, cause I got pushed back to low after a 7 game win streak in mid, after the new patch hit.

There have been a ton disconnects the last two days, every single game I played was 4v5/3v5. This is especially a problem on EU servers.

[TABottles]

Originally Posted by iVnStinger

I'd like to apologize if I missed it. I used the search function and really found nothing.

So I've been wondering, why do we have a D3 subforum but not a DoTA 2? I mean cmon! Everyone loves DoTA! Seeing as it will be free and all, I'm truly looking forward to it and I was wondering how many of you are interested in it too.

If you do happen to make a subforum, I don't mind looking for all the valid information regarding the game and posting it here for you guys. Unless someone already has which in that case I'm extremely sorry. What do you guys think?

I guess it makes sense to make a sub forum for Dota 2. But then again this is a sc2 fan site and the diablo 3 sub forum doesn't get too much love anyway

[iVnStinger]

Originally Posted by TABottles

I guess it makes sense to make a sub forum for Dota 2. But then again this is a sc2 fan site and the diablo 3 sub forum doesn't get too much love anyway

Just wait till the game gets out

[MazEi]

I kinda find it sort of shocking how unpopular DotA is outside of Malaysia. Over here around 2007-ish, DotA just exploded. I think it's almost safe to say that 9 out of 10 teenagers at that time had tried DotA once here in Malaysia, which is why I was sorta sure that it will get its own sub-forum the moment someone mentioned it here.

[iVnStinger]

Originally Posted by ZC.MazEi

I kinda find it sort of shocking how unpopular DotA is outside of Malaysia. Over here around 2007-ish, DotA just exploded. I think it's almost safe to say that 9 out of 10 teenagers at that time had tried DotA once here in Malaysia, which is why I was sorta sure that it will get its own sub-forum the moment someone mentioned it here.

I second this. It's absolutely huge. FXOUnstable said it himself, Malaysia is so big on free online games. Dota especially. Not to be racist but all the races here play it. Which makes me a god in Malaysia just because I have a Dota 2 key. BUT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT SC2, ain't that right Mazei?

[MazEi]

Yeah in a way, its like you'll find more people here who knows DotA than people who've heard of SC2.

[Daboo]

Been playing as clockwerk the last few days, really fun hero!

Got a question: Are heroes who use invisibility just plain gimmicky? As in it works because your low level, but once you move up they stop performing well? Does rikki/clinkz see high level play? It seems obvious to buy some dust/gems or a ward and those heroes are pretty much done for.

[iMSystem]

I have seen rikki been picked up numerous times in top tier play but like you said, players just have to carry dust or an eye and be fine from ganking, after detection has been picked up then ricci has to be careful with ganking and initiating, but your team should already have a initiator so then ricci just becomes a right click hero with the right farm.


Personally I feel even though detection has been picked up, ricci isn't completely useless, assuming your smart with him

[MazEi]

Well its like DTs, they're really affective at low levels, but start becoming less effective at higher levels, though still viable. Even if you have a gem or dust, they can strike where you are not, as well as still cause a lot of damage in team fights if fat.

[|Erasmus|]

What's a good hero to play for someone relatively new to dota.

I was playing mostly dragon knight (from my few games of wc3 mod dota being ranged agility heroes), but I figure trying to play carry is bad for a noob, so I tried out Omniknight for one game last night. By the end of that game I felt like I was -starting- to get a feel for when how to use the abilities better, healing to keep my gankers alive and trying to tank for them a bit (since I had heart and shiva's guard).

Is there a better support style strength hero I could be playing? Or should I keep trying to learn omniknight?

[Daboo]

Just play whats fun yo, I remember reading carry was bad for beginners, but I only have fun with carry style characters/gankers though. I think that reasoning comes from the fact that carries are mostly weaker than the others in the early game, and quite a few noobs have a tendency to go rambo at towers within like 2 minutes into the game. And carries need to last hit a lot more than the others.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Daboo

Just play whats fun yo, I remember reading carry was bad for beginners, but I only have fun with carry style characters/gankers though. I think that reasoning comes from the fact that carries are mostly weaker than the others in the early game, and quite a few noobs have a tendency to go rambo at towers within like 2 minutes into the game. And carries need to last hit a lot more than the others.

it's pretty funny when they rambo into me right at the start and i draw them into towers and use imba stun T_T. And I'm pretty shit, but I do end up with highest gold/min and exp/min in a lot of my noob games despite not usually having the best kill/death ratio.

[cruxis]

I don't play because I don't have a key, but I watch a lot of Demon's and Dendi's streams, as well as Tonbi's and sometimes Purge's casts, but from what I've seen Tidehunter seems to be the best support at the moment. Nice and tanky with a massive aoe stun ult.

[QEDFridge]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

it's pretty funny when they rambo into me right at the start and i draw them into towers and use imba stun T_T. And I'm pretty shit, but I do end up with highest gold/min and exp/min in a lot of my noob games despite not usually having the best kill/death ratio.

bitch please, you chobo and you know it.

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|Erasmus|:

I'm so chobo... but there are at least one or two people seemingly worse.

[MazEi]

Though tidehunter is gonna suck if your team cant really stay alive long enough(saying this as I just lost a game as Tide).

As for beginning heroes, I started out with Drow who is a carry but I didn't find that out in the 5 years since I started DotA until some months ago when I finally decided to get better at this game. Honestly you can play any hero just fine if you practice it, even if its a carry, just means that you're playing a tough role from the start

I'd say pick a simple hero that to start with(I'd recommend Skeleton King though there could be other better options) to get a feel for the game, after which you can just play anyone to understand heroes and their abilities better, as well as play more to just know what some of the major items do.

And as usual, play the game for fun! Only recently have I started to just try out more and more heroes, something I wish I did way back. If you have friends who also play the game, play with them, the game only gets better with friends, unless your friends are the type that blames others for losing, even friends =(

In any case, hit me up if you just wanna get a teammate who you know wont bash/flame you for any mistakes you make as well as try to help you if you need some assistance with something, even though I'm a total noob myself =P

[yongming]

Originally Posted by Daboo

Been playing as clockwerk the last few days, really fun hero!

Got a question: Are heroes who use invisibility just plain gimmicky? As in it works because your low level, but once you move up they stop performing well? Does rikki/clinkz see high level play? It seems obvious to buy some dust/gems or a ward and those heroes are pretty much done for.

rikimaru scales extremely well into late game due to his +dmg per agi backstab passive and manta style images has this passive as well thus giving him a load of dps throughout the game. in the early game, he can scout ahead for ganks and initiate with smoke screen. when there is no detection, you can just play him like any other visible hero, stay back and let initiators start battles before blink striking in. smoke screen is also useful thoughout the game.

gondar plays similarly but unlike riki, he excels in burst rather than sustained dps with his windwalk and crit combo (after the passive change). he doesnt have something that could let him jump into a battle apart from windwalk and he is melee, so he needs to go close to the enemy team which is not possible with detection. his team usefulness lies in his ulti and taking out a enemy hero asap (ideally within 1 combo).

clinkz is just bad after all the nerfs and tweaks done to him since 2006.