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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 1:08 PM BnetId: ToREchoFive.923  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 408 # 101
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 1:18 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 102
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 1:44 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 103
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zomg.. I just did all the changes.. then My internet cut out just before I pressed 'Save' to the changes.. T_T
All additions are being put in now, if you have anymore changes to your team please post ASAP, team rosters lock tonight. Managers, please check with your team that their leagues are correct ... And the teams that need to do a Compliance test, get onto it!!.. Check if you are required to in the compliance test thread.

Edit: please check your rosters are correct!
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 2:47 PM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 104
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 2:52 PM BnetId: ToREchoFive.923  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 408 # 105
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oh got the dates wrong, no worries.
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 7:44 PM BnetId: Vegeta.396  Race: Clan: HoH  Location: Tasmania  Total Posts Made: 30 # 107
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Some of our team may have changed races am I able to re-register there race before a certain date? I accept that you can't change close to the start due to people practising certain match ups etc. I was just wondering if there was a way of changing this
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according to the rules, your players may use whatever race you choose to submit. For example, when you PM chadmann, you can PM him with whichever race you want your player to play.

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:10 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 108
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Race picking is permitted in Tier 5.. as long as you play the same race for the entire Best of 3 series.

I understand that alot of BSG level players are still finding their feet in this game.. and working out which race is best for them. So of course if you chose to change race, or as Dougolas has suggested the roster has your race down wrong, thats okay. I'll update those additions, and go through the thread to find anything else I might have missed...

However, the Roster changes are now locked... that means, no more additions to the rosters.However, if you need to change your race then just post in here, or PM Maynarde and I..

And speaking of Mr Maynarde, your other illustrious Tier 5 admin.. He is currently wording the new rule set for tier 5 that will give you guys greater flexibility, while remaining a competitive league.
Stay tuned! - Good luck, and as always, have nice fun....
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 12:06 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,638 # 109
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Hi there Tier 5! Here with the official rule update that Chad and I (with the help of some other admins) have come up with.

1. Submit your LINE UP (5 players) 24 HOURS before play time
This makes life a little easier for the admins, we have ALOT of games to manage and need to have a list of 5 players per team to make sure they are present on the night. These 5 players are selected by the team managers from their rosters which have already been submitted.

2. Your starting line up has 1 WILDCARD A WEEK to cover no-shows, 4 SUBS for full line up
I tried to truncate the rule into a single line but I can see how the language can be a bit vague, let me explain; BSGCL had it's fair share of no shows and that sucked. Because Tier 5 is a bit more lenient then other leagues we have allowed teams to cover 1 NO SHOW from their full team line-up into their playing line-up with a WILDCARD.

Separately to this, each team is allowed 4 SUBS to their full team line-up in the form of removing players from their roster and replacing them or adding new ones all together. If a manager decides their WILDCARD no show replacement should be outside of their full line-up then needless to say this will count as their weekly WILDCARD and also count towards their 4 subs for the season.

Full line-up = Entire player roster.
Playing line-up = The 5 selected players for that week.

3. Your WILDCARD must be the SAME LEAGUE OR LOWER of the player being replaced.
This is so that no one doesn't show against a player they don't feel confident against, and simply be replaced by a much stronger player.

4. You must CHANGE ONE PLAYER of your playing line-up weekly
This is so that everyone gets a go. We ARE allowing people who are that get promoted to to keep playing.

The idea of this Tier to ladder, improve, better yourself and your team. The only way to get into Tier 4 is to get shinier league icons. In the interest of fairness to the other teams we will only allow 2 OR HIGHER players on a playing line-up per week. That means your other 3 players will need to be BSG. This rule will be re-visited if most people get promoted to or higher. That is the idea after all.

Teams will be locked tonight at 12pm SGT (bout an hour). Sorry this too so long to get done, I been a busy lad.

Play day for Tier 5 will be Thursdays because Thursday night was decided a few times in a row by BSGCL and PDCL folk to be the most popular night for play. DO NOT STRESS, you will only need to play ONE BO3. This isn't all kill, all games are played at once.

So there you go, please everyone provided constructive criticism if you have any, or praise! I like praise. So does ChadMann.

PS. Keep in mind I wrote this while tired, if I missed any rules ChadMann will no doubt notify me and if I miss-spelled or wasn't clear on something do post in this thread with your thoughts

Peace out Tier 5

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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 12:34 AM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 110
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we have only 1 random and only 1 terran, rule 3 could be a big problem for us. i guess we'll have to make sure those two show up
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 12:37 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 111
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we have only 1 random and only 1 terran, rule 3 could be a big problem for us. i guess we'll have to make sure those two show up
Yes, This same race thing we decided against.. and as Maynarde was so tired.. he forgot to change it...
I believe, it should be same League, or lower.

EDIT, also DEFAULT play time will be 9pm AEDT, if both teams would prefer to play at 8.. thats fine.. work it out amongst the managers and let us know when you are playing (in the weekly news thread that shows the line ups would be fine....?)
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 8:06 AM BnetId: Volition.893  Race: Location: Toowoomba  Total Posts Made: 209 # 112
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Great set of rules Admins, loving your work.

Just a suggestion, feel free to disregard:- teams must not use the same ace two weeks in a row. with the ace match being so important, and most of us being BSG lvl, the benefit a plat (and possibly diamond if they are promoted) is massive. why not make it so you cant use the same two weeks in row - even if two guys swap ace positions each week. The ace from the previous week could of course play in the team, just not as the ace

Actualyl this one isnt necessary at all, just a thought. cheers

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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 10:02 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,638 # 113
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Yes, This same race thing we decided against.. and as Maynarde was so tired.. he forgot to change it...
I believe, it should be same League, or lower.

EDIT, also DEFAULT play time will be 9pm AEDT, if both teams would prefer to play at 8.. thats fine.. work it out amongst the managers and let us know when you are playing (in the weekly news thread that shows the line ups would be fine....?)
Sorry, I fixed that rule up.

Also re: starting time I believe 9pm AEDT is the most popular choice by far in the Time Poll thread, but as Chad mentioned;

You are free to reschedule games as long as you notify the admins and get an agreement from the opposing team manager.

The match ups are already done and live in the Challonge bracket. So team managers, check em out and if you need to reschedule games it's best to start early. The team managers are listed in the second post of this thread, make sure you get in touch ASAP!
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 10:03 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 114
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Maybe for the ACE match have a set league for alternating weeks. This would give the BSG players a chance to strut their stuff, as I can foresee this always being a high gold or platinum only match.

For example:

Week 1 - BSGP
Week 2 - B
Week 3 - S
Week 4 - G
Week 5 - BSGP
etc

Just a thought...
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 10:56 AM BnetId: VBPotthead.898  Race: Clan: VB  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 787 # 115
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It's an ace match, it's meant to be the best player o.0 Thanks for posting all the rules Mayn, and don't worry about it taking a while, at least they're thorough and not chunked together last minute
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 11:04 AM BnetId: Volition.893  Race: Location: Toowoomba  Total Posts Made: 209 # 116
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Maybe for the ACE match have a set league for alternating weeks. This would give the BSG players a chance to strut their stuff, as I can foresee this always being a high gold or platinum only match.

For example:

Week 1 - BSGP
Week 2 - B
Week 3 - S
Week 4 - G
Week 5 - BSGP
etc

Just a thought...
I dont think that will work Rezyn, as some teams dont have bronzes or plats.

Completely agree with your Potthead, was just thinking about a potential team that has 1 great guy and the rest ok or so so beating or drawing with a team that has all goodish players. but like i said, it was just a thought and will not detract from the awesome sauce this event will be!
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Yeah I agree Volition, but the ace match is only 2 points, so another player on the team has to win a game each week as well for a team with an awesome ace player to salvage a draw.
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 11:25 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 118
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Great set of rules Admins, loving your work.

Just a suggestion, feel free to disregard:- teams must not use the same ace two weeks in a row. with the ace match being so important, and most of us being BSG lvl, the benefit a plat (and possibly diamond if they are promoted) is massive. why not make it so you cant use the same two weeks in row - even if two guys swap ace positions each week. The ace from the previous week could of course play in the team, just not as the ace

Actualyl this one isnt necessary at all, just a thought. cheers
I like this rule.. perhaps not same ace 2 weeks in a row tho... idk
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 12:01 PM BnetId: BenAD.379  Race: Clan: FS  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 750 # 119
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Thank you guys so much for all the effort you are putting in.

I have a question Re Rule 4 - You must change a player weekly

What if no one else is free 2 weeks in a row but the same 5? Would this mean we would use our wildcard for that week, as we'd need to name someone else who wouldn't be coming?

And I assume we only count it by the 5 people who actually played.

IE If I named A,B,C,D and E to play, but F had to wildcard for E, would it be valid to let A,B,C,D and E play next week?
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 12:27 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 120
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Thank you guys so much for all the effort you are putting in.

I have a question Re Rule 4 - You must change a player weekly

What if no one else is free 2 weeks in a row but the same 5? Would this mean we would use our wildcard for that week, as we'd need to name someone else who wouldn't be coming?

And I assume we only count it by the 5 people who actually played.

IE If I named A,B,C,D and E to play, but F had to wildcard for E, would it be valid to let A,B,C,D and E play next week?
ermmm.. If you name five players one week.. only four of the same five can play the next week.. and players cannot play 3 weeks in a row, of course we will make considerations for small teams, if they contact us. But if it is obvious that the same five players play each week then a 1 match walk over will be given, if a replacement player can no be used, you won't have to use a wildcard, just you cannot use the same 5. If you have no option but to use the same 5 players, and there is a significant reason, contact Maynarde or I and we will work it out.... if not, 1 player of your 5 will not be permitted to earn points for their match (they can still play the match for the fun and experience though). but the Points will be Auto awarded to the other team.

If this rule becomes difficult for some teams, either use a sub and add an active player into your roster. If you've used all your subs, Maynarde and I can reconsider this rule.. if it becomes and issue. The objective of these rules was to make teams rotate their roster and not use an all star line up every week, to give everyone a chance of playing.
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