[syfChase]

What a pathetic troll aha

[ChowMuddha]

Map hacker complaining about another map hacker... lol You are the complete dumbass

[iM tgun]

Unless someone has more replays of [ToT] IriS, feel free to not respond to that post (or any subsequent accounts like that) anymore.

[VB_Boony]

It would be good it [ToT] IriS could figure out who this person was by going through their history and we could add them to the list.

Quick Comments

syfChase:

+1 to the Boonster

[Matt93]

Originally Posted by VB_Boony

It would be good it [ToT] IriS could figure out who this person was by going through their history and we could add them to the list.

I already did that for him. It's ExC Fraser, aka Whiteluxury. 6min 53s PvP on whirlwind that Fraser won with a 4gate, fits the bill. Was played ~ 2-3 hours before the post here.

Watching replays Smirk probably won't get through all of them as it is a fair bit also annoyingly titled etc. Would also like some recent ones, in particular that game vs Fraser posted in the video

Iris vs EveMera - titled LOLLLL

First hint at possible maphacking - 4:10 a-moves stalker to ramp as scv is coming up
Nothing else of note, rest seems fine. a-move to ramp could be a coincidence though move command swiftly swapped to a-move when scv came near.

Fraser vs Iris - titled Fraser
Nothing

iris vs rushcrazy - titled ^^
Nothing

Raiyn vs Assasination - Daybreak LE
Just generally a weird game, iris toying with opponent, no maphacking evidence - was surprised by mutas in his main about 17:50

AriA vs barcode - can't remember title cbf

again nothing.

Think I've seen enough. He scouts, gets relatively surprised by things Will let the people who actually have power check over them but while these replays appear to be handpicked there doesn't seem to be any maphacking evidence. Would be pretty nice to see the game iris was accused with though vs Fraser on whirlwind. Seems to just be a butthurt maphacker though.

[SmirkToT]

http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shar...&uk=3456378728

some replays of IriS.

[OSPixel]

a Recent game i had with iris: http://drop.sc/329287

1:37 he begins his scout, rallying to all 3 remaining locations with my location first ( could be pure coincidence) i dont know if gateway scout is normal for a 4 player map, but i usually go 13 scout every matchup so it seems fine to me

2:26 Notices my 15 cc, doesnt click on it or harras scv, just sends his probe right into my main to see my main scv ( again could be purely what he wanted to do, as everyone is different)


~3:20: moving his probe back, does an a-move (i guess to be expected although, very close to my idle scv, (again could be pure coincidence)

3:25: Mouse scolling, without spam clicking his probe (left on its current a-Move command, scrolls forward a little too far, seeing the exact position of my barracks then scrolling back to near my command center to spam click (possible miss scroll?) it seems odd while he scrolls over my baracks he is still constantly spamming between probe and nexus for more apm?

5:20: Could be a coincidence, but as my scv gets close to the ramp you see him selecting his stalker just out of the gateway to the ramp, then selects his other stalker pulls it back just at the right time for my scv to not see it at the ramp, when returning the stalkers, he clicks very low, and not right on the ramp like you would expect, which just happens to be where my scv is, that he couldnt see.


Maybe his choice of build is 4g on whirlwind, but its was perfect to do against my cc first, (whirlwind is pretty popular for fast CC's so that could be a coincidence. (i was assuming he was thinking to 4g, when he placed his second pylon in a lower position to conceal the gates)

This is all i could find in my recent replay with him. although at a quick browse its easy to miss the small things that look suspicious

[mGGNemesis]

Met this Protoss currently plat player called NoobSlayer.

Game was on Whirlwind and was eventually scouted to be cross spawned. When I watched the replay, he had pointed his probe directly to my natural to proxy 2 gates. Lucky? or Hacking?

Replay link : http://drop.sc/330388?pass=1cb06990-...b-d0b7c505f215

[VorteX]

Originally Posted by mGGNemesis

Met this Protoss currently plat player called NoobSlayer.

Game was on Whirlwind and was eventually scouted to be cross spawned. When I watched the replay, he had pointed his probe directly to my natural to proxy 2 gates. Lucky? or Hacking?

Replay link : http://drop.sc/330388?pass=1cb06990-...b-d0b7c505f215

Yeah...i watched this replay. Its kind of obvious he hacking:

1) 0:17min: move a probe blindly into nem's Natural and hides it there (main not even scouted).
2) 1:15min: Builds a Pylon (without even looking in the main to see if Nemesis is really there)
3) 1:43min: Builds 1 gate way (proxied there).
4) 1:55min: Builds 1 gate way (proxied there).
5) 2:59min: Rallys both gateway to the nemesis main:
(all this while, he still haven't scouted Nemesis main)

No one will invest in this much blindly. Only time when people invest in that is they know exactly where they are. So from the Replay, he know exactly where you are, even when he not scouted where you are first!

[ChoseN]

Confirmed maphacker here:
Rilakkuma

Scanning MANY of my STATIONARY obs.. 12.53

Theres another scanning of stationary obs but I didnt take notice the time when it happened.

Warp Prism deny at the perfect timing, few scouts but always know where my army was.. Too obvious mh.

Quick Comments

	eCKo`Switch:	You can see stationary obs, you dont need to hack to notice them.
	Synizta:	seems like most of your evidence is based on him catching obs. T_T
	ROOTPetraeus:	lol
	DarthBruton:	you can still see clocked units without detection if you have good eyes and know what you are looking for :P
	bobby:	This guy is a confirmed hack, hes been reported on team liquid. Google his name with tl and ull find the replay

[ToRSpookToR]

that doesnt confirm map hacking you muppet

[ToRozliam]

Hey guys, not a troll.

Vsed this guy on the SEA ladder today, not sure if he plays on NA but seems like he is a map hacker, Throughout the game looks at my base all the time and never scouts, blindly counters mutas and ultras.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t523att3j1...liam.SC2Replay



bobby: lol looks like ur map hacking too, how did u know to early pool?

i early pool every ZvP i do a 14 pool 15 gas most the time (:

Quick Comments

	ToRFracTaL:	Forgot to mention his ign <3 Its JaeJeang anyways :P
	bobby:	lol looks like ur map hacking too, how did u know to early pool?

[syfChase]

Originally Posted by ToRozliam

Forgot to mention his ign Its JaeJeang anyways :P

Played this guy, tried to distract me, with random trolling and played suspiciously. I analysed replay and didn't see any strong evidence, but it was a short game (he tried to all in me). I don't think I still have the replay, but he will be one to watch

EDIT: Found the replay, luckily saved it
Glances at my base a couple times through the fog but nothing really conclusive, see if you could find something out of it?
http://drop.sc/335338

[SFTAElessar]

yeah another barcode Protoss player! Watch replay and he doesnt scout the whole game, counters all my moves, splits army when i go to attack when he doesnt see it or have any map vision, goes to expand and then pulls probe off route and decides to not build it coz my army is waiting to attack outside his base! and finds proxy pylons with no scout and goes directly to them with no shift command. and counters my dt play, go to his vision and you will see! also i play random and he says the match up without scouting in this game!
I will upload replay to "REPLAY" section (name says ngenrevenge)

[calcifer19]

Originally Posted by SFTAElessar

yeah another barcode Protoss player! Watch replay and he doesnt scout the whole game, counters all my moves, splits army when i go to attack when he doesnt see it or have any map vision, goes to expand and then pulls probe off route and decides to not build it coz my army is waiting to attack outside his base! and finds proxy pylons with no scout and goes directly to them with no shift command. and counters my dt play, go to his vision and you will see! also i play random and he says the match up without scouting in this game!
I will upload replay to "REPLAY" section (name says ngenrevenge)

there is one more gm barcode terran hacker out there now

[Snx`Azz]

Hi, would like some opinion of the following 2 replays vs dignitas.dtefel for WT weekly.

Neoplanet S
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=2239
4:09 sends 2 zerglings to kill my probe in the fog of war, he was originally going to scout in the middle of map with lings, he could have split his lings to look around more places and scout but instead sends both lings a-move for the probe. For the rest of the game he chooses not to scout any of my tech/inside base and makes no spores anywhere so I feel its worth evaluation.

Belshire Vest:
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do...lay&id=2240%20
At the beginning of the game he looks at my probe and sends his overlord directly to where I am making a pylon. I have never actually played a zerg who puts the overlord in that location, or at least leaves it near the natural to scout for pylon/cannon etc. He looks at it frequently via overlord selection etc.

Thanks.

Quick Comments

syfSoundwave:

He does scout you at 9 minutes on Neo, but he would have died to any all-in. Really greedy but not conclusive.

[Matt93]

Originally Posted by Snx`Azz

Hi, would like some opinion of the following 2 replays vs dignitas.dtefel for WT weekly.

Neoplanet S
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=2239
4:09 sends 2 zerglings to kill my probe in the fog of war, he was originally going to scout in the middle of map with lings, he could have split his lings to look around more places and scout but instead sends both lings a-move for the probe. For the rest of the game he chooses not to scout any of my tech/inside base and makes no spores anywhere so I feel its worth evaluation.

Belshire Vest:
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do...lay&id=2240%20
At the beginning of the game he looks at my probe and sends his overlord directly to where I am making a pylon. I have never actually played a zerg who puts the overlord in that location, or at least leaves it near the natural to scout for pylon/cannon etc. He looks at it frequently via overlord selection etc.

Thanks.

Neo Planet S game - it looks weird that he did send his lings up there while at first sending them to the middle, but that can be justified as probehunting near his third as his drone was going up there at the same time. As for the never scouting stuff, he saw your +1 and a few other things and didn't just try to counter your build, he only really started pumping units when he saw the attack moving out. Maybe someone could do it in more detail, but while at first it seems odd at 4:30 you can see him go past your probe without attacking it, if he were maphacking he'd have killed it.

Belshir Vestige game.
I don't see a lot of zergs send overlord to that direct position, but I do see many send it over that spot so I don't know.


As for a general thing in the never scouting, he did the same thing both games. Waited for an overseer scout to see everything.

I don't think he maphacked, just a lucky scout and the first game a normal ling scout around after sending them to a random location for some reason. If he was maphacking he tried very hard to pretend he wasn't.

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

Ok although Baldie will no doubt address this I will make a short post regarding the accusations of Dignitas player Tefel apparently hacking in wT Major on Monday night.

As the admin on the night I asked for the replays and had a third party unrelated to either side look at the replays. This third party was not told of any of the suspicious activity outlined by Azz before looking at the replays. This ensures that the player who looks at the replay will arrive at their own conclusions without any form of bias.

Here is the feedback I received from the player who looked into it:

The Bel'Shir Vestige Game:

"This game doesn't look dodgy to me, he luckily scouted the proxy on a somewhat uncommon overlord path... but even i send my overlord on that path sometimes then the rest is standard spotting proxy is frustrating but not enough to call someone a hacker, in game 1 of wt today I sent my ovie on an uncommon path and scouted the exact some proxy in daybreak that could have looked suspicious... so game isn't anything good to accuse someone off"

The Neo Planet S Game:

"Seems fine i don't think there is anything accusable."

People are welcome to arrive at their own conclusions via looking at the replays but as the Admin for the tournament I am satisfied that there is not enough grounds to accuse him of cheating in the tournament. If you are still unhappy with this I will have another party look at the replays and get their feedback.

[Snx`Azz]

Thanks for analyzing this.

[Baldie]

I have had multiple conversations with Rogue, who I trust completely in her judgements, also with those who have analysed the replays and based on that there is no condemning evidence to suggest Tefel was hacking. Just unfortunate circumstances for you. The inquiry is noted however in case it comes up in the future again