[nirvAnA]

Yo EtisTime,

You are confused, Dox ran the Australian qualifier close to perfect, which was a separate pre-event which served as a qualifier for the "main-event" PH tournament you now see. Dox is agreeing that the main event is a disaster, and his qualifications that he put alot of time and effort into organising has been overshadowed because of it.

Dox = Voluntary helped organise the Australian qualifiers (close to perfect event)
Gus / Wtichdoc = Organised the main-event (disaster and dox had nothing to do with it)

[Exilemic]

and the bracket's biased. it's clear that Goose wants his member to be in ro16

[Alderaan]

Wow so much shit. If not for this thread (and Dox's/IPL's), no one would have known and thought anything about this event other than it not being run very well.

[cure]

Props to Yoon for taking it so well, and I don't really have anything much to say about AZK. Kinda expected this to happen from the start anyway.

[DexVitalitY]

hmm this is pretty tragic but I feel as the E-Sports scene grows there will be events such as this. Growing pains will occur and I fully respect IPL for taking responsibility for what has happened so far and hopefully the SEA scene will be better because of this.

[TAXanT]

Such a shame, props to YYJ and Dox for supplying as much details/evidence as possible in a professional manner.

Just by reading the conversations between Gus and YYJ on facebook I can tell this guy is going to do nothing good for the SC2 E-sports scene with that attitude.

Sorry to hear about it YYJ.

[Dox]

EDIT: Rossi says the brackets were re-generated for some reason by pulling names out of a hat. Mystery solved!

From my blog over at TeamLiquid:

Originally Posted by Dox

+ [Original Brackets] +

+ [Adjusted Brackets] +

Quick Comments

	aztecx:
	ZraF:
	Malik:	they must be using a pretty strange hat ....

[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by Dox

Looks like the brackets were rigged, too.

From my blog over at TeamLiquid:

wrong, brackets were auto generated by someone at the scene who didnt know what was going on.
Brackets were then pulled out of a hat randomly for fairness.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by TARossi

wrong, brackets were auto generated by someone at the scene who didnt know what was going on.
Brackets were then pulled out of a hat randomly for fairness.

That's so bizarre... I wonder why they didn't just leave them alone the first time! They were perfectly fair! I'll update my post to clarify then - thank you for the insight!

[ETL.Santi]

So I heard they gave Yoons ticket to zannaku (Ziek). If this is real...
I think we should just ban AZK from all sc2sea tournaments/events.

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	syfChadMann:	total boycott of AZK!!!
	EveJeonSa:	The Fat man speaks!

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by Santi

So I heard they gave Yoons ticket to zannaku (Ziek). If this is real...
I think we should just ban AZK from all sc2sea tournaments/events.

No they didn't. They gave it to AZKSickness. Ziek paid for himself to get there.

[ETL.Santi]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

No they didn't. They gave it to AZKSickness. Ziek paid for himself to get there.

Well im sorry mate but can you prove this?

[SuperHero]

I am amazed at the incredible level of professionalism that YoonYJ and Dox are showing in regards to this problem. If eSports is filled with people as respectful as these individuals then it will keep getting stronger and stronger.

As far as and legal action is concerned you may find it difficult and costly to get legal action in both the Philippines or Australia for not a very large reward. Although you did get contracts signed and all the documentation in order (very good idea by the way), following through in the courts will not be worth it.

Personally i would write a letter/email to every single sponsor of the PPSL, IPL and IGN and explain the situation and back it up with the evidence you have. I would call for a blacklist of all individuals involved (perhaps the entire team) from participating in any future events.

Also, make sure the community knows about this. Post on community forums and websites explaining what happened. Im sure you will have all the support from the community which will ensure that people will run their organisations as professionally as you have acted.

Best of luck!

[biogenie]

Just one more guy from the Community who would like to let you know that you did great under the circumstances YoonJY... Want to let you know you'll never walk alone!! We will always back ya! Cheers

[Tenz]

I've been out of the scene for forever and a day - but just swung by to say how disgusted I am with that joker, especially after IGN confirmed that all the funds had been sent/received.

I hope he gets what he deserves.

[Insipidity]

Sad to see how a black sheep can taint the growing community scene that is SEA .... I hope you're able to work things out YoonYJ.

[nirvAnA]

YJY REP FARMED and STILL ONLY 89 POINTS lol!!

anyway OppsOppsBaby from TL summed up a nice TLDR version of the drama today.

On November 08 2011 15:00 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
TLDR

ppsl qualifiers
- yoonyj was promised a flight and spot as replacement for targa.
- did not materialise. reason was awaiting funds.
- ipl states that payments were on schedule.
- moonglade was asked to represent azk and join azk for 3 months in return for spot and flight but he declined.
- azksickness joins azk recently and gets a free spot and flight without having to go through the qualifiers.
- players from filipino team 'Cube' was denied flights.
- both azk players was given walkovers in group e over rixilius and salt who coincidentally are from 'Cube'

ppsl
- audience did not get the vip privileges (interaction with players, autographs, etc) they paid for on day 1 (usd10). ticketing has no clue.
- stream testing only start 1 hour before event. no sound proofing. not enough ram.
- players have no idea what is going on and the brackets.
- hon players that registered for hon tournament arrive and realise there is no hon tournament. s2 funds unaccounted for.

azk
- some azk members are known for their notoriety online. zanooku/ziek banned from bnet forums and sc2sea after numerous counts of trolling and racism.
- negative comments removed from facebook page

[Cordance]

I feel like the whole SEA community has been hurt by the actions of few. Well done YoonYJ for the manor that you handed this incident.
I believe it highlights the risks some people are taking with E sports to try to expand it. Which is good. However we as a community need to better safe guard ourselves against such things.
Public floggings although easy to rally around only help after the fact. We need to be more pro active in our initiatives. It is also a good idea to try to keep things a little open book so people can see what is going on and why, well your building up trust. Even this site use to keep a record of where every donation dollar went until it became more admin work than it was worth for Nivana. How hard would it be for example for details of any tourney to have where the contestants will come from before the event is being held. We all know where the dodgy stuff happened. Im curious as to how involed IPL was into this event considering what happened and why they would let it be so lack luster considering their investment.

Quick Comments

nirvAnA:

<3 Agreeed. Also i should do some accounting did it last month balance was slightly positive

[Imperial]

Wow that is so lame , go upvote the thread on reddit if you have nothing else to do: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/

[asdfSchnitzel]

Yoon, i feel so sorry for you =(. People like Gus shouldn't have any reputation in the community anymore. What if Yoon had won the qualifer and gone on to win IPL4? Although it seems unlikely, it could've happened, but these scum stopped it in its tracks.