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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 11:21 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 61
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10 armor is exactly equal to 1 resist all. The increase for every point of resist all/armor is also a linear increase in terms of % of damage taken reduced, there is no diminishing returns on this for every point put into it which is a bit unintuitive from the numbers sometimes (eg, lets say going from 0 to 100 armor gives you from 0% to 50% reduced dmg from all attacks, whilst going from 900 to 1000 armor gives you from 98% to 99% reduced damage from attacks, altho the last 100 armor only adds 1% absorbtion compared to the first armor adding 50%, in reality damage taken in both cases is halved by 50% total. (and remember, 10 armor = 1 resist all, there is absolutely no difference between them)

(Spoiler for those still struggling a bit, stolen straight from reddit, maybe he can explain better than i can)
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charles is attacked for 100 damage!
charles has zero damage reduction!
---charles takes 100 damage!---
tod is attacked for 100 damage!
tod has 50% damage reduction!
---tod takes 50 damage!---
tod took half as much damage as charles!
tod can take twice as many hits as charles!
charles is attacked for 100 damage!
charles has 98% damage reduction!
---charles takes 2 damage!---
tod is attacked for 100 damage!
tod has 99% damage reduction!
---tod takes 1 damage!---
tod took half as much damage as charles!
tod can take twice as many hits as charles!
In terms of Diablo III, it takes 3,000 armor to get from 0% to 50% damage reduction. If you had 98% damage reduction from armor, it would take 3,000 more to get to 99%.
If you got 3,000 more after that, you would go to 99.5% damage reduction.


However, vitality DOES GET LESS EFFECTIVE for every point already added to it. adding 4k hp to your base 4k hp at level 60 literally doubles your suvivability straight up. Adding 4k hp when you're at 40k hp already tho however only adds an extra 1/10th to your survivability.

Since not many people realize the above, it leads to vitality being vastly overrated by a lot of people (including myself for a very long time) compared to the two other stats because of the noticeable change in HP being easy to account for ("100vit = 3.5k more hp??? WHOA! AWESOME!" kinda of thing, as opposed to "an extra 33 resist all is equal to some misc small amount of a % of reduction, whatever"). It's relatively important to strike a decent balance between both, because obviously rocking no vit with 5k hp but a ridiculous amount of resist isn't going to be as good as doubling your HP with 150 or so vitality for the cost of a tiny bit of resist all/armor, and similar goes for having way too much hp and not enough res-all/armor. This is why some people have >40k hp and struggle to survive act 2 inferno whilst others can have even much less but still breeze it.

I'm not 100% sure about other classes, but for wizards, all your armor gets a huge boost from energy armor which is basically a must-have in inferno mode for us, and if you get your gear well enough equipped, you can stop using force armor rune and instead use prismatic, which increases the bonus from resistances as well, and im sure other classes have armor/resistance boosting abilities/passives that they can take advantage of too.
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 11:24 AM BnetId: aLtMrFool.792  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 195 # 62
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Bought it waiting for it to be fixed, blizz has comfirmed that its bugged but I can't find it anymore admist the 100 threads started on the bug >< people tend to undervalue items like this because of 'quick stat comparison' when you mouse-over an item and deem that it doesn't increase their damage much!

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Items Pro-Tip: Make use of Blizzard Database and know which item is of higher value

Every item has a tier level. So let's say for a Chest piece. The top tier will be called Archon. Take note of that name! Another example would be Spears, the top tier is called Centurion Spear and for Polearms it is Dread Lance.

Obviously there is more for every other item. Knowing the names will let you know if you've got the highest tiered item even before identifying it (if it's a rare)!

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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 12:21 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 64
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@Pinder What resist value would be a good target for Act II / III Inferno? I'm a DH
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 12:35 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 65
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Blue has comfirmed that increased attack speed on legendaries and some other items (comfirmed by forum posts by community) is currently bugged and does not register when worn. This leads to items like monks' "inna's pants" to be undervalued by the AH despite rolling good stats because the 14% IAS does not work - people see that their damage does not increase - and thus sell it at really low prices. I got one which rolled 80 str and a beastly 180 vitality for 700k! Other items will be the same.. Only problem is I don't know what other items are bugged! Go find out!
I bought a freaking innas pants for 1 mil, thinking it was a good buy as it was the only one with an intel / vita stat and had the IAS and movement speed too. and fml when i tried to equip it, it said ONLY MONKS LOL. it did not say that in the auction page. now to price it really high like its some super anomaly and get my money back!!
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 1:08 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 66
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@Pinder What resist value would be a good target for Act II / III Inferno? I'm a DH
DH's don't need to worry about resistances. You should be gearing for pure damage and using your range, kiting and SS to avoid taking damage. It's how every DH making any meaningful progression in inferno is playing.
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@Benji ah I see, thanks. I should get back to progressing instead of spending my hours MFing and farming gold rofl.

Anyway, I have compiled most of the tips into the OP for easy reading, and will add any future useful tips to the list. Enjoy!
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 2:01 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 68
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crAzerk you were progressing in a much more efficient way imo, farming the sweetest spots till xx mil then gearing up so you could play the game the "normal" way in a shorter time. provided of course you are using your money earned to buy better gear and not selling it lol!

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crAzerk you were progressing in a much more efficient way imo, farming the sweetest spots till xx mil then gearing up so you could play the game the "normal" way in a shorter time. provided of course you are using your money earned to buy better gear and not selling it lol!
What do you mean by 'Normal way'?
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I bought a freaking innas pants for 1 mil, thinking it was a good buy as it was the only one with an intel / vita stat and had the IAS and movement speed too. and fml when i tried to equip it, it said ONLY MONKS LOL. it did not say that in the auction page. now to price it really high like its some super anomaly and get my money back!!
Haha! Yeah.. Just hope someone has the same mindset as you and buy it only to realise the same thing ><
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Normal way = farm at your current levels / quests till you have the gear to move up slowly. ABC and by the book!

"Other" way = Quest jump, farm act 3/4 chests/bosses > sell to ah get 10 mil before anyone else and good drops. then buy all the other exact gear you want and begin to "progress". frowned upon by some, whereas others argue its just the same farming concept done in a more efficient way.
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 2:40 PM BnetId: aLtMrFool.792  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 195 # 72
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When dual wielding, you're automatically given +15% IAS, however, you do not attack with main hand weapon exclusively / both weapons at the same time, you attack with main hand then off-hand alternating between them and thus if your weapon DPS differs by a huge margin, you may be better off with a shield despite the marginal increase in IAS.
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Normal way = farm at your current levels / quests till you have the gear to move up slowly. ABC and by the book!

"Other" way = Quest jump, farm act 3/4 chests/bosses > sell to ah get 10 mil before anyone else and good drops. then buy all the other exact gear you want and begin to "progress". frowned upon by some, whereas others argue its just the same farming concept done in a more efficient way.
Aah fair enough, both have their merits, people can play the game however they like as far from my pov.

There comes a point where you have over farmed however, where your stats are significantly better than the progression you are up to, at which point you are hurting yourself as you could be farming better areas of the game for better loot and more gold per hour.
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When dual wielding, you're automatically given +15% IAS, however, you do not attack with main hand weapon exclusively / both weapons at the same time, you attack with main hand then off-hand alternating between them and thus if your weapon DPS differs by a huge margin, you may be better off with a shield despite the marginal increase in IAS.
Which is why when you dual-wield, you should have as little difference between the 2 weapons' DPS. I read somewhere that it should be +-15% difference tops.
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 3:10 PM BnetId: aLtMrFool.792  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 195 # 75
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Which is why when you dual-wield, you should have as little difference between the 2 weapons' DPS. I read somewhere that it should be +-15% difference tops.
That would be exactly right! +-15%! What I meant is that if the difference is bigger than that, you might as well equip a shield because the shield will give you survivability instead of nothing if your weapon dmg is low for your off-hand

Another thing that you guys would wanna know about team-play is that

In normal

1P 100% HP 100% DMG
2P 200% HP 100% DMG
3P 300% HP 100% DMG
4P 400% HP 100% DMG

That also means it get easier the more player there is..

In Inferno, however

1P 100% HP 100% DMG
2P 210% HP 115% DMG
3P 320% HP 130% DMG
4P 430% HP 145% DMG

It can get harder or easier depending on gearing lvl / build efficiency of each player! I have forgotten the stats for nightmare and hell but its in between that of normal and inferno
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For those that don't already know, as smoke screen is a snare breaker (jailer, for example) it has some cool qualities. If you're caught inside of a time warp (eg: Zoltan Kulle's time warp) and you cast it, you actually break the slow for the duration of the skill. That means that you can stand inside of a time warp and not suffer the effects of it (until, of course, your smoke screen wears off) -- this will be very useful when PvP comes out.

Additionally for powerleveling, Zoltan Kulle is your friend. Azmodan has been nerfed to ******* death, so he gives nothing compared to Kulle. A lot of people are touting that Act 2 Quest 2 (Lieutenant Vachem?) is better exp, but if you can kill Kulle in a respectable time then it's legitemately more exp/hour, and you can do it very easily (especially with the help of a friend).
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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 6:17 PM BnetId: Churlz.519  Race: Clan: nRv  Location: Gold Coast  Total Posts Made: 40 # 77
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You can farm act 4 inferno without having to get up to act 4 or even have the gear.
HOW TO GET TO ANY QUEST IN INFERNO
- Make a hell game with the quest you'd like to start on.
- Leave the game.
- Click "Public Games", and select the quest you were wanting to join
- Click "Join a Game"
- Leave the Public Game
- Click "Resume Game".
- Viola! You're now in Inferno on the quest you wanted

Now go to Prime evil act 4 inferno first quest. TP to crystal collinade (w/e it is called) run through the bridge thingy don't try and kill the black things or Leah she is pretty hard to kill but doable for range. Then once you are on the first level so long as you don't have the spirit of Zoltan Tyreal will be able kill the elite which spawns and you will get an Act 4 inferno level blue and have a chance of getting a huuuge dps weapon. I have got a few 1k+ dps weapons which I don't think will ever drop in act 1.

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Haha! Yeah.. Just hope someone has the same mindset as you and buy it only to realise the same thing ><
LOL that someone has been found!! Bought at 1mil sold at 1.45!

275k Profit yay! Phew lucky it doesn't have sellers name hahaha.

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Unread Mon, 28th-May-2012, 11:27 PM BnetId: Cyanide.751  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 681 # 79
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Found some useful information amidst the junk in the Bnet forums. I cleaned it up to make it easier to read as well.

Whimsyshire (Cow Level) Guide

Black Mushroom (Act 1)
Quest: A Shattered Crown, Begin Quest
Location: Cathedral Level 1
Waypoint: Cathedral Garden
Instructions: Enter through Cathedral or Leoric's Passage backwards
Spawns: Usually near circle centre of map or bottom L-shape room on map
Item description: Glowing white pile with purplish fumes
Difficulty: Very Easy
Estimated Runs Needed: 2-5

Leoric's Shinbone (Act 1)
Quest: Imprisoned Angel, Begin Quest
Location: Leoric's Manor
WP: Leoric's Manor
Instructions: Run backwards from waypoint up the stairs
Spawns: After going DOWN stairs enter the East room
Item description: Click on BURNT LOGS in fireplace
Difficulty: Easy
Estimated Runs Needed: 5-10

Liquid Rainbow (Act 2)
Quest: Blood and Sand, Begin Quest
Location: Dahlgur Oasis, Mysterious Cave Level 1
Waypoint: Path to the Oasis (best) or Dahlgur Oasis
Instructions: Follow southern edge of map.
There are two Florida (like I know what Florida is shaped like =/) shaped locations where cave may spawn
Spawns: When Zaven the Chemist merchant spawns, he will open the entrance
Item description: Look for the MYSTERIOUS CHEST in Level 1. May not spawn.
Difficulty: Hard
Estimated Runs Needed: 5-10 (Not only do you need the Cave to spawn, you need the chest to spawn too.

Wirt's Bell (Act 2)
Quest: A Royal Audience
Location: Caldeum City
Waypoint: N/A
Instructions: Purchase under Miscellaneous (potions tab)
Spawns: Squirt the Peddler (merchant)
Item description: 100,000 Gold, you can't miss it!
Difficulty: Easy peasy, lemon squeezy

Gibbering Gemstone (Act 3)
Quest: Siege Breaker
Location: Fields of Slaughter
Waypoint: Bridge of Korsikk
Instructions: Locate Caves of Frost Level 1
If the cave doesn't spawn very close to the waypoint, remake your game by leaving the game and resuming.
Commonly found immediately east or west of waypoint
If you see Icefall Caves, remake the game.
Spawns: Caves of Frost Level 2
Item description: Small white amulet that drops from the Unique Boss CHILTARA. Chiltara spawns in Level 2
Difficulty: Very Hard
Estimated Runs Needed:15-20. Need the cave to appear, and Chiltara has a low spawn rate.

Plan: Staff of Herding (Act 4)
The plan has a chance to drop from Izual
You can also upgrade the staff via the Merchant that sells potions in Act 4.

Finding the portal location (Act 1)
Take the Staff up Old Tristram Road
Go to the gate Southeast of New Tristram
Follow the path
Just outside gate you will find the Cow King's Skeleton
Talk to the Cow King's Ghost to enter WHIMSYSHIRE
A rainbow pit will appear for you to enter
Let the culling begin

Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5152413772

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Everytime you cast hydra, it kills your previous hydra, which means you get HP back from any Life After Kill stats.

TLDR (lol too long): Hydra users stack life after kill for quick heals

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