[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by nRvBard

Its not just in the thread? I have a vod?

I missed that. I'll have a look tonight as i can't watch stream from work. Re-schedule still applicable until further notice.

[dippa]

dippa > wTera [walkover]

[[TA]LoSt]

Wow I missed a lot. Have all the TA matches been played/was there any problems?

I'm not gonna get involved in this whole drama, I already had my moment with ons clan. :P

[ProAnnn]

iRLProAnnn 2 - 0 cruxDoc
GGBinu 0-0 cruxNXZ (to be played on saturday)
iRLGoldfish 0-0 cruxKiSS(to be played on saturday too)
Lizerg 2-0 cruxEldrid
iRLKyzersoze 2-0 cruxdelete

Overall results(so far) iRL 4-0 crux

[Frogmite]

Allright guys.

Thanks to the VOD link given by Bard we could have investigated the issue deeper with all the admins. We all agreed on what i will state below, so if you have comments/claims please send PM to the admins, we are always free and willing to discuss.

lGdFai VS Savior

For this game, the VOD shows clearly that Savior was connected to at the beginning of the games and that IGdFai wasn't connected at all.
I believe nRv wants to claim the walkover and they are in their rights to do so. So we'll give the walkover to Savior

onsXetech VS Kez

Kez was free in the channel few minutes after the start of the game. Xetech connected during the ace game play, so after 26 min from the start of the game. The game could have been played at that moment but for a reason i ignore the game had been played 2 hours after. nRv would have been able to claim the walkover for that game (26min>15min), however Kez agreed to play the game and lost 2-0 (props to him). As the game had been played, the players agreed to play so i'll count this result as a win for onslaught.

Final result:
The VOD we watched helped us to revise our judgement and we think it's fair to give the walkover to nRv for game1.

nRv 4-2 onslaught
There is no need to replay the games on sunday. You can still do it for e-sport sake but we won't take the results into account.


To onscalcifer:

After ONS vs TA, it's the second time onslaught is having roster issues and is creating drama for Tier 2.
We'll keep this in mind and we won't hesitate to give ban/penalties the next time it happens (most likely SEACL season 3).
You also raised the issue of the nRv subs. The subs for week 2 are counted as "wildcards" because the players replaced were already inside their initial roster.
So far nRv did 2 substitutions to this day.


To nRvPickeweasel:

Your attitude during this drama was totally not acceptable (infraction rules 1&3 numerous times) and we'll punish you by giving you a 3-days ban so you'll have time to cool down a bit. 3 days are not a lot because we think you were just over-heated. However if you persist we'll give a longer ban.
I believe you said those things because you were still angry after the game but it's not a sufficient reason to do it. Keep in mind it's easier for the admins to listen to someone calm than someone posting comments against admins.
We expect team leaders to be helpful when drama arise, we're here to take decisions so mature talk help us a lot. The way Bard posted his point of view was good and certainly helped us took the fair decision.
Very important thing, we don't punish you because you were right and admin are wrong, we punish you because we saw some comments not expected from a team leader.
I believe that you didn't want to hurt anyone, but all the things you say are also impacting everyone's point of view on nRv.
Another point, i saw that you complained about some BM from ONS, BM is not allowed by the rules so if you bring the proof (by PM) we'll investigate and take a decision with the admin towards ONS as well.


On a side note, i would like praise the attitude of Kez who accepted to play the delayed games

Any comments, let Tier 2 admins know by PM thanks

Quick Comments

	Reere:	Thank you for clearing everything up <3
	ProAnnn:	Really nice way to solve this (Y)
	nirvAnA:	Perfection
	x5_Bard:	Thanks for taking the time to clear this up :)
	xGKingdelete:
	phoney:	Kez getting more n more baller by the day
	Nemo:	Respect

[AxSGRiM]

Thanks to the admins for coming to the decision, sorry for all our unnecessary rage!

[wTlzq]

TA vs wT

TANoodle 1-2 wTMrToast
TAdippA 2-0 wTerA ( walkover)
TAavanar 2-0 wTRage* ( wTRage sub in for wTJack)
TAsivvon 0-2 wTSkrawl
ACE: TAFourby 1-2 wTinte

overall wT wins 4-2, good games

Quick Comments

[TA]LoSt:

gg's!

[SLCN.NXZ]

cruxNXZ vs iRLBinu

binu wins 2-0. ggwp

[ProAnnn]

Originally Posted by NXZ

cruxNXZ vs iRLBinu

binu wins 2-0. ggwp

Other than this
cruxKiSS 2-1 iRLGoldfish

Therefore overall score
iRL 5- 1 crux